Way too much FAKE laughing and acting in tickle videos

[ticklishmike24]

I have bought many tickling videos and just about every time I feel I wasted my money. I thought if I changed video producers it would be different, but they are all the same. So much fake laughing,screaming and bad acting in all these videos. A big problem is there is money to be made and the actors come out. And any porn star has to be a great actor. Way too many porn people doing tickle videos. Another problem,when strangers tickle someone it does not get the reaction of the lee that a person they know would get. It only makes sense,if your boyfriend or girlfriend tickles you compared to a stranger,who would get more of a reaction? The person you know because your used to them. And way too many of the same fake laughers doing videos for different companies. You see the same lees over and over. And another problem,laughing that does not match whats happening on the screen. I bought a video last week and the laughing did not match what was happening on the screen. Another time i bought a video and about 30 seconds in the lee got out of her bondage so for the next few minutes on the tape i sat there and watched her get tied again,what a waste of money!!!!!! Like i said before the faking has gotton out of control even the people you think are really ticklish are not. A perfect example Lilly from tickling paradise,you watch her videos of her being tickled, before they even touch her feet the fake screaming and laughing comes out of her. But then i watched her footworship videos and her feet are being licked,sucked on played with and tickled but because its a foot worship video all of a sudden no laughing not even a smile from her. She has a tickle video where a cat is licking her feet and she is giving us the whole 9 yards acting job screaming laughing going nuts,but then in the foot worship videos her feet are being licked and now they are as ticklish as rocks. You can fake being ticklish but you cant fake not being ticklish,thats my point. And its not just that video producer its just about all of them. And does every video have to be called "most ticklish girl ever" It should be called best actress in a tickle video. Another big problem too many people love everything,people are so easily amused by anything. I read all the comments about videos and people on here are going crazy about how great the tickling is and i am like that was not even good let alone great. I read the comments about Howard sterns girls gone wild show,guys were saying it was amazing,best ever,wow,great show. It was one of the worst tickling shows ever,the second girl did not laugh once,but it did not matter to most,it was great to them. And just because a woman shows her feet does not mean she has great feet. Everytime there is a barefoot sighting of anyone all the guys say the same things "wow great feet" "amazing feet" "she has the best feet" its the same comments about every womens feet. Paris hilton has some of the most ugly feet in hollywood yet when there was a picture of her feet on here all the guys went crazy about them like they were some of the sexiest feet ever. Some people just love anything and everything. Its like a person that always goes to the movies and comes out saying "that was great" Hey buddy guess what IT WASN'T!!!!!!!! i think people for the most part like everything and are easily amused by anything. And people are also easily fooled by fake laughing and bad acting. I think the videos have gotten worse and worse but too many "simple minded" people like them so things probably wont change. I just wont be buying anymore tickle videos anytime soon.

 

[nessonite1]

That is totally true and exactly why I hate the vast majority of tk vids I see. it's really help if you seperated that post into paragraphs though. it's really hard to read as is.

 

[Betchass1]

I pay for very little tk porn these days, for all of these reasons. Lily is indeed annoying; "Darling," who has been turning up in more and more producers' work lately, is another one. Amazing to look at, unbearable to listen to. I'd rather see her tied up and touched and not respond at all than the kind of eye-rolling and snorting she does.

This lack of quality is a trend that runs through all porn, I think. Supply and demand, I suppose. As long as there is more demand than supply, the suppliers can have their way with desperate consumers. It shouldn't take long for that opportunity to run itself dry, as people become more discerning.
But I'm probably in the minority here, in that feet don't do anything for me, so I guess I'll have to keep drawing my own stuff, until I meet some lady who enjoys my depraved visions.

 

[blingman]

It's true that there are tons of fakers and new fakes are probably being made as we type, and that the recycling of said fakers makes we, the consumers, who buy videos based on pictures and text look like suckers. Personally though I like Lily, and even if she's a faker, she's faking a hell of a lot better than the rest of them.

 

[cosquillero1]

I agree, almost all videos/clips sold as "tickling stuff" are fake. Only a little percentage are real. I like videos as RenFaire or InSex by example, because the first aren't paid, aren't actresses or models, they are common people taken by surprise, the second isn't a tickling video company, they're bdsm producers, so those models than are ticklish, are really ticklish, no pretending be. Only a few videos/clips of tickling video producers are real, some companies get eventually some ticklish models, of course they do 1 or 2 clips and after quit.

 

[MistressValerie1]

For some reason, fakeness doesn't really bother me as long as it isn't too obvious 🙂

 

[MacD]

Thanks for having this subject discussed! Here what I think, maybe others think the same. And maybe producers will have some more customers in the future?
Oh and forgive me if became a little outspoken!

For some clips I wonder all the time about that question. Do some tickle freaks really believe this is true?
There are clips with girls that are paid for screaming, no matter if they are touched or not. Other girls have hard job desperately trying to squeeze out a laugh because they are not ticklish at all. Or they pretend to die because a feather caused some wind around their feet. Not my cup of tea.

"Girl next door" models often are beautiful too - AND ticklish. And not too arrogant but more natural.

Acting is ok when I am in cinema, watching action movies. They don't really shot themselves... But it looks like they did. And I am there for the whole story to make at least a little sense, so please no stupid scenarios. A "sitted baby" approx. 20 years too old is coming to my mind 🙂
Why not having them play an teen/twen story that could be real? Or no big story if someone can't act so well, it is not a shame.

Oh and please please no coochie-coochie all the time in a high pitched voice that no mouse can ever reach. (below not as well please, thank you 🙂

Maybe others can write their opinions. Or explain which clip they like best and why.

 

[Big_Dogg85]

I also have a problem with fake laughter, as I find if done badly (and even if done right) it takes a lot away from the clip.

When I look at a clip, I look at it not only based on the laughter but also the situation/position the lee is in. With that Lily clip, where the cats are licking her feet for example. Sure the laughter is fake but that position I'm sure can make truly ticklish people let out a squeal. If I judged clips solely on their laughter then I'm not sure I would have be'en here as long as I have since my original purpose coming here (other then TMF being a pain in the derriere at the time) was for clips.

With any movie: while the acting goes a long way... the mise-en-scene is equally as important in determining it's success. I think certain producers and clips deserve more credit then they get. There was a clip with an asian chick that, while her laughter wasn't very good, (slightly more pain then laugh) her position had her legs in the air, bound, and wires connected between her bound feet and clamps on her nipples. If she brought her feet down, the clamps would rip out her nipples, or as the clip was trying to get across. (Doesn't actually happen 🙂 ) I love that clip for the position alone, forget the non-apparent laughter. I look at clips for their ingenuity...if the model or lee is really ticklish then it's a bonus.

😛 Didn't your mothers ever tell you, never judge a book by it's cover. 😛

(Shameless plug to the Last Laugh series of clips, in my estimation you are by far the best on the market!!!)

 

[TickledToDeath]

I totally agree.
The faking has always been out of hand.
So long as the vids are purchased, they will be made regardless of the lack of authenticity.
Producers will go for the "looks" of the wouldbe "actors" as opposed to the ticklishness or lack thereof.
If the producers sought out folks from the tickle community itself instead of the model agencies, they would find genuinly ticklish people to make the vids. However, unforunatly, there are alot of people in the community who would not want to be seen so it is a catch 22 situation.
Too many viewers of the vids are apt to be fooled or just don't care.
Perhaps if people would stop buying the phoney vids, the producers would stop using fakers.

TTD

 

[TickledToDeath]

I totally agree.
The faking has always been out of hand.
So long as the vids are purchased, they will be made regardless of the lack of authenticity.
Producers will go for the "looks" of the wouldbe "actors" as opposed to the ticklishness or lack thereof.
If the producers sought out folks from the tickle community itself instead of the model agencies, they would find genuinly ticklish people to make the vids. However, unforunatly, there are alot of people in the community who would not want to be seen so it is a catch 22 situation.
Too many viewers of the vids are apt to be fooled or just don't care.
Perhaps if people would stop buying the phoney vids, the producers would stop using fakers.

TTD

Oh and by the by........I have appeared in a couple of productions....TickleHorror and one Bleu release as the LEE and I am definitely genuinly tickllish. Few women buy vids.
Even then, with me, known to be ticklish for real, few have commented on them let alone purchased.

 

[MacD]

the mise-en-scene is equally as important in determining it's success.

Definitely

I think certain producers and clips deserve more credit then they get.

I don't know that much, could you tell me some?

Of course the reactions are also an important part. There is no big trust in ticklees who are short about winning the "I don't move an inch" contest or keep simpering into the camera.

Yes, LL is one of the rare cases that made me take a closer look (= buy) after a preview.

 

[nessonite1]

This is why I don't buy videos. Nor do I even watch the ones available for free. I hate (with a passion)

1. acting
2. scenes set up like a story with a lame plot, lamer actors, and horrible dialogue
3. scenes set up like a story with a GOOD plot, actors, etc. I just hate contrived scenarios.
4. phoney feather-tickling. feathers are overplayed and silly. And they rarely even work.
5. squeaky baby talk from the 'lers
6. over-acting. screaming, thrashing, etc, when nothing is even happening.
7. girls who look like models. I dont wanna see beach-ball boobies bouncing around.
8. nudity.
9. 'lees who pretend to be undergoing extreme torture and sexual torment when it's obvious there is NO way anyone would do that to someone who was unwilling or they'd be arrested.

really, the number of videos Ive seen that I actually like could probably be counted on one hand. I just don't bother any longer. xp

 

[GEORGIATKLER]

Laughing All The Way To The Bank, At Us, Not With Us

Except For A Select Few Video Companies, Buying A New Vid Is Like Vegas: You Pay Your Money You Take Your Chances. At Least The Boobies Are All Real! 😉

 

[cinnabar]

I think they are some very good points in this thread. We find it fairly difficult to find really genuinely ticklish people to work with. Some people seem ticklish enough, and then just shut down when put into a situation such as a filming.

 

[ayla1]

although there are a handful of us not faking out there! i have to agree! producers find looks over ticklishness! they would rather have a very beautiful lee that is not that ticklish compared to someone that is extremely ticklish but not a super model type. i am very genuinly (sp?) ticklish! however i am not as pretty as all the other ladies out there! however they arent ticklish! im not but ugly by the way! i just dont think i am as pretty as some of those other ladies i see! which i think is why i didnt make that many videos! 😕

 

[Violetta]

At Least The Boobies Are All Real! 😉

I wouldn't make that bet, either. 😛

 

[kopfhorer1]

Trouble with breast-reduction surgery is that, at least in the past, it cut off all feeling/nerve connections to the nipples. A terrible price to pay.

Most porn is pretty lame. And why not? It's still an "underground" commodity and with noteworthy exceptions (e.g. those pornos made by female directors) no effort is put into making it good. Picture Hollywood if it only made B-movies.

 

[ticklefiend30001]

I can name atleast 2 clips4sales sites that I know to have no fakers on whatsoever.
One is my own, everything this thread has been about, the huge amount of fake tickling models, the sheer buy and hope element of buying a video, the looks over ticklishness factor. It all made me want to start my own site/store, I simply felt that even I could do better. That I could stick to what real tickle fetishists want to see, I'm not going to be able to please them all, but I could certainly piss less people off.

The other is Tickleheaven, I have worked with him, and the guy is very commited to producing true stuff for the community, we have a similar philosophy. Both of us see beauty as secondary to ticklishness, it's a great bonus, but IT IS a bonus.

We both do you use models, but to actually keep something like this running you have to. But if a model tells me she isn't that ticklish or won't/can't rate herself, I won't work with her.

Tickleheaven has put out models that were (no offence mate) obvioulsy hired for their ticklishness not looks. As have I, thing is mine didn't want their faces shown. Each of us got complaints, I guess his amounted to "she ain't hot" and mine wanted to see the faces.

It is difficult to find truly ticklish models willing to do this kind of work, but there are open minded young ladies out there who, and I quote from one I worked with, "like to push their limits" and will work with you, and are genuinely ticklish. They are a rarity, out of over 100 mails I've sent to models I've had maybe 20 reply, 10 keep contact and 2 that have actually shown up!!! Give you some idea. But there are us out there who are working our butts off to bring you folks REAL tickling action. It's never going to be everyones cup of tea. But it's out there.

It really is a shame that so may have gone before us and just tried to make money from fakers, and good looking fakers alike. It really has lead to over sceptisicm, the other day someone claimed that the most ticklish model I've worked with was 1.5 out of a possible 10 on the ticklish scale. So no matter what we do, there are always gonna believe that what they are seeing is fake. Which is fine, the ones that get me are those that go around posting on clips "this is fake" and seem to think they are being righteous by pointing out what they THINK is faking. I'm certain most of these folks are not regular posters, and have probably never indulged in a true tickle experience, hence their only frame of reference is faker vids.

For reference I have both our stores links below. I truly believe there are many other clips4sale stores that share our philosophy. But, can only speak for certain about myself and Tickleheaven.

I encourage all producers with the same philosophy to let yourself be known.

http://www.clips4sale.com/store/4821

http://www.clips4sale.com/store/814

Ticklefiend

 

[ScorpionKing]

I have three big problems with tickle porn.

1.) Too much full body tickling and not enough soles only.

2.) The bondage, if there is any, is too weak and not very effective.

3.) I dont mind fake laughing as long as its not obvious.

I always thought Lily was really ticklish but after reading the first post I may wonder................. her feet are still smoking hot though.

 

[ticklefiend30001]

This is what I'm saying!

The stuff you want is out there!

I get complaints that I don't focus on the whole body enough, just the feet !!!

Me and Tickleheaven have different philosophies on bondage, he doesn't like it so much, for me it's a must. And she must truly be unable to get out. I'm never elaborate just simple and effective.

NEITHER OF US DO FAKERS!!!

We both make efforts to please the kind of viewer you are, but you alreay sound so disgruntled with vids that you won't bother with any.

I can't say I blame you, when I bought "Mistreat Her Feet" and it had out of I think 6 scenes ONLY 1 pure foot tickling scene, and that was the biggest pile of fake unticklish crap I have ever seen, I was TREMENDOUSLY pissed, and I haven't even visited their site since. But don't put us all in one bag.

Personally I think there shoudl be no faking, any faking is unacceptable, it undermines the whole point of the material. I don't hire my models to act, I pay them to endure it and be natural.

 

[MacD]

I get complaints that I don't focus on the whole body enough, just the feet !!!

Maybe producers try to satisfy everyone with each video they produce? You can't!
Each one has different opinions. The foot ticklers, the nylon fans the whole body fans, foot lickers and all the others. Why not splitting it up into nylons - no nylons. Or foot action (licking, kissing ...) and foot tickling only.
Maybe this already could help. Nylon fans like one video, those not into nylons (like me) like the others.
Both won't watch (and buy) mixed video, or they complain afterwards.
The same with licking feet, I don't like to see licking and so on, so I don't keep thinking about a video where tickling is interrupted by that. No matter what the rest is about. Others miss licking in the same video.

NEITHER OF US DO FAKERS!!!
We both make efforts to please the kind of viewer you are, but you alreay sound so disgruntled with vids that you won't bother with any.

It's a pity but true, like everywhere else in life. Some are enough to spoil the reputation of a huge number of good things!
No I'm not yet disgruntled and I don't put all of you into one bag.
If I did so I'd already have given up reading threads that deal with videos. But I still do 🙂

 

[Runmn]

I said it here a couple of months ago....95% of the tickling videos are fake. Some of the producers of the videos obviously took exception to my observation. But ANYONE who has done much real tickling...can spot the faking in seconds in the videos----the same intensity of laughter throughout..despite where or how she is being tickled.....ticklees laughing hysterically yet laying perfectly still....or going berserk with reactions with very LITTLE tickling. Just about all of them are fake....guaranteed!!!
Glad to see there are others out there who see through the nonsense.

 

[Stugots]

I like the idea of the split screens. One side of the screen is the foot tickling and the other side of the screen is the facial expression. In numerous of those types of clips you can notice a shadow of another tickler tickling the upperbody to make you think the lees feet are real ticklish, when it is her upperbody that is real ticklish. Why not just show the upperbody tickling and stop trying to trick foot ticklers?