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What Do You Believe In?????

DalekNfra

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God?UFO's?Life On Other Worlds?ETC,ETC??????

Here's the thread to talk about it here!!!!

Have fun......


footphantom72
 
i believe aliens are out there somewhere just seems like they have to be with all the planets out there, has to be life on at least a few more.

Dont believe in god, i want to but i cant bring myself to do it, seems like a fairy tale to me (no offense meant to the religious)

Dont believe in ghosts, if there were ghosts i assume i or someone i know would have seen one by now or at the very least someone would have a real video of one

i do believe in bigfoot or whatever animals you want to say, i mean there are billions of species we have yet to discover so why not
 
Philosopher Nick Bostrom investigated the possibility that we may be living in a simulation. A simplified version of his argument proceeds as such:

i. It is possible that a civilization could create a computer simulation which contains individuals with artificial intelligence.
ii. Such a civilization would likely run many—say billions—of these simulations (just for fun; for research, etc.)
iii. A simulated individual inside the simulation wouldn’t necessarily know that it’s inside a simulation—it’s just going about its daily business in what it considers to be the "real world."

Then the ultimate question is—if one accepts that these 1, 2, and 3 are at least possible— which of the following is more likely?

a. We are the one civilization which develops AI simulations and happens not to be in one itself? Or,
b. We are one of the many (billions) of simulations that has run? (Remember point iii.)
c. We could both be the simulation, and create our own set of simulation.

In greater detail, his argument attempts to prove the trichotomy, that:

either

1. intelligent races will never reach a level of technology where they can run simulations of reality so detailed they can be mistaken for reality (or this is impossible in principle); or
2. races who do reach such a level do not tend to run such simulations; or
3. we are almost certainly living in such a simulation.

Bostrom's argument uses the premise that given sufficiently advanced technology, it is possible to simulate entire inhabited planets or even larger habitats or even entire universes as quantum simulations in time/space pockets, including all the people on them, on a computer, and that simulated people can be fully conscious, and are as much persons as non-simulated people.

A particular case provided in the original paper poses the scenario where we assume that the human race could reach such a technological level without destroying themselves in the process (i.e. we deny the first hypothesis); and that once we reached such a level we would still be interested in history, the past, and our ancestors, and that there would be no legal or moral strictures on running such simulations (we deny the second hypothesis)—then

* it is likely that we would run a very large number of so-called ancestor simulations to study our past;
* and that, by the same line of reasoning, many of these simulations would in turn run other sub-simulations, and so on;
* and that given the fact that right now it is impossible to tell whether we are living in one of the vast number of simulations or the original ancestor universe, the likelihood is that the former is true.

Assumptions as to whether the human race (or another intelligent species) could reach such a technological level without destroying themselves depend greatly on the value of the Drake equation, which gives the number of intelligent technological species communicating via radio in a galaxy at any given point in time. The expanded equation looks to the number of posthuman civilizations that ever would exist in any given universe. If the average for all universes, real or simulated, is greater than or equal to one such civilization existing in each universe's entire history, then odds are rather overwhelmingly in favor of the proposition that the average civilization is in a simulation, assuming that such simulated universes are possible and such civilizations would want to run such simulations.

You never know...
 
It's really hard for me to believe in god. I don't believe in ghosts, or anything supernatural. Don't believe in an afterlife, reincarnation, or the like.

What do I believe in? Love, family, friends, music, and that things have a way of working themselves out for the best in many situations.
 
Me, Faith/God (whatever your version of him/her/that/it may be), luck, circumstance, chance, serendipity, astrology (to a degree), friends, spirits both good and bad, possibly other life forms, music, art, Monster energy drinks and the iPhone.
 
I believe that religion, on a whole, holds us back as both a species and a society.

I believe that ANYONE that gets into politics only has their own interests at heart.

In the words of Calvin, I believe the surest sign of intelligent life out there is the fact that they haven't tried to contact us.

I believe there will be another American revolution in my lifetime.

I believe that my friends are the best a person can have (yes, even you, Sarah 😛)
 
Philosopher Nick Bostrom investigated the possibility that we may be living in a simulation. A simplified version of his argument proceeds as such:

i. It is possible that a civilization could create a computer simulation which contains individuals with artificial intelligence.
ii. Such a civilization would likely run many—say billions—of these simulations (just for fun; for research, etc.)
iii. A simulated individual inside the simulation wouldn’t necessarily know that it’s inside a simulation—it’s just going about its daily business in what it considers to be the "real world."

Then the ultimate question is—if one accepts that these 1, 2, and 3 are at least possible— which of the following is more likely?

a. We are the one civilization which develops AI simulations and happens not to be in one itself? Or,
b. We are one of the many (billions) of simulations that has run? (Remember point iii.)
c. We could both be the simulation, and create our own set of simulation.

In greater detail, his argument attempts to prove the trichotomy, that:

either

1. intelligent races will never reach a level of technology where they can run simulations of reality so detailed they can be mistaken for reality (or this is impossible in principle); or
2. races who do reach such a level do not tend to run such simulations; or
3. we are almost certainly living in such a simulation.

Bostrom's argument uses the premise that given sufficiently advanced technology, it is possible to simulate entire inhabited planets or even larger habitats or even entire universes as quantum simulations in time/space pockets, including all the people on them, on a computer, and that simulated people can be fully conscious, and are as much persons as non-simulated people.

A particular case provided in the original paper poses the scenario where we assume that the human race could reach such a technological level without destroying themselves in the process (i.e. we deny the first hypothesis); and that once we reached such a level we would still be interested in history, the past, and our ancestors, and that there would be no legal or moral strictures on running such simulations (we deny the second hypothesis)—then

* it is likely that we would run a very large number of so-called ancestor simulations to study our past;
* and that, by the same line of reasoning, many of these simulations would in turn run other sub-simulations, and so on;
* and that given the fact that right now it is impossible to tell whether we are living in one of the vast number of simulations or the original ancestor universe, the likelihood is that the former is true.

Assumptions as to whether the human race (or another intelligent species) could reach such a technological level without destroying themselves depend greatly on the value of the Drake equation, which gives the number of intelligent technological species communicating via radio in a galaxy at any given point in time. The expanded equation looks to the number of posthuman civilizations that ever would exist in any given universe. If the average for all universes, real or simulated, is greater than or equal to one such civilization existing in each universe's entire history, then odds are rather overwhelmingly in favor of the proposition that the average civilization is in a simulation, assuming that such simulated universes are possible and such civilizations would want to run such simulations.

You never know...

So by that logic when a person dies its game over ?
 
I was raised Catholic, though I would definitely never claim to be a good one. It's been at least two years since I've set foot in church, but I digress.

I do believe in God, for a few reasons. One that comes to mind is that I don't think I can go wrong for doing so, and another is that looking around at everything I can perceive in existence <i>HAD</i> to be created by someone or something. Even for people who subscribe to the Big Bang theory, someone or something had to cause that bang. Everything happens for a reason, even chaotic and random acts of creation, under the rule of cause and effect. I also have faith, due to miscellaneous events that have happened in my life that almost seem like I'm being watched or protected. No matter how bad things have gotten at any point, anytime I was about to drop my proverbial pack, something or someone would appear at the right time to help me out. It happened too often to seem like circumstance.

As far as the supernatural, I don't know if you'd call me a skeptic or not. My wife and I regularly watch Ghost Hunters, but I often question their knowledge of how to use their equipment and the paranormal evidence they discover. Some things I saw on there did blow my mind, but I sometimes get frustrated seeing them react to thermal images or other evidence, and thinking they accepted it "too readily".

As far as life on other worlds, I'm positive. Tests have shown that there's (was) already evidence of life on Mars (small, microscopic life), but the tests ORIGINALLY used were actually killing the samples, because they were based upon limited knowledge, testing the organisms as if they were bacteria from Earth, assuming they'd react the same way. That's all the evidence I need to not rule out the possibility of intelligent life.
 
Death.

I can't escape this truth. It's the main reason why I do my tasks/jobs/goals quite faster.
 
Death.

I can't escape this truth. It's the main reason why I do my tasks/jobs/goals quite faster.

I'm curious about your feelings about this, mainly because speed (or my lack thereof) in my life seems to be a bit of an issue in many dealings. I approach things in life more like it's a journey, and I want to experience many things, but I wanna settle down to take the time to enjoy them for a bit. Even with the knowledge that any day could be my last, I'm still compelled to take things easy, and I don't enjoy being rushed to accomplish tasks, or rushed to show up to places that aren't work/places that don't pay me. Do you often find yourself stressed by rushing, or do you perhaps feel enjoyment when everything is going like "clockwork" for you?
 
I believe in God. For reasons extremely similar to Flatfoot's. God has proved his existence to me way to many time for me to deny it.


I believe there are ghosts, I also believe that ghosts are the souls of the people who don't make it to heaven and that eventually the earth itself will become hell. I also believe ghosts of children aren't real, more like a manipulation.


I believe there are such things as UFO and life on other planets. I believe that there is a galaxy somewhere else that is just like us.. Why would we be the only ones? If it's possible here then it's certainly possible in another galaxy. However, I don't believe there is life on any of the planet's except earth in this galaxy.

I don't even know if any of this has made any sense. lol
 
Personally, I only believe what I see; sometimes seeing leaves me wondering about validity.

I would love to believe in a God, but I cannot fathom the thought of a supreme being or being a part of a religion that insults other beliefs through naivety. Perhaps, my father being a born again Christian makes things even worse.

I believe in UFOs because the acronym does stand for unidentified flying object and not alien spaceship. I witnessed a strange craft about 15 years ago.

I believe that ghosts do exist; I had a few experiences which were unexplained.
 
....and I don't enjoy being rushed to accomplish tasks, or rushed to show up to places that aren't work/places that don't pay me. Do you often find yourself stressed by rushing, or do you perhaps feel enjoyment when everything is going like "clockwork" for you?

It's natural to be stressed at anything.

There is happiness and satisfaction for me *after* a task is accomplished. It may sound odd for you, but it is how it works for me, that I would rather extend time than rest.

You don't enjoy being rushed <<< that's you, not me. I want to rush (with care) because I find happiness after seeing results. It's a kind of momentum.

Your kind of enjoyment simply isn't my kind of enjoyment.
 
If you believe in Love, family, friends and music, then you do believe in God.

That's clearly what you believe, and that's fantastic for you. But please kindly avoid telling me what I believe.
 
I'm fairly certain I would go off of the deep end if I held the popular athiestic view that after death is... nothing.

For me, it's just an encouragement to do my best to make this life awesome. No second chances, no rewards or punishments. Just what I have right now.
 
I believe that Mexicans have the best beer.


Corona?

The stuff that tastes like urine??

ARE YOU KIDDING???

I believe that which does not kill you only makes you...Stranger!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.:seesaw:
 
I have no idea why I put a dancing banana in here...

I believe that critical thinking skills should be taught to everyone. Too many people are buying into alternative medicines, bad financial decisions and various other cons/frauds/lies.

I believe that people shouldn't spend more than they make. Credit cards, if used properly, can help make large purchases manageable--but should not be used for everyday purchases.

I believe that olives are gross.

I believe that too many people rush around for no reason. I've been in the military, used to work as an EMT and have also worked in trauma surgery--in my world 10 minutes is an extraordinarily long time. However, I don't drive around like an idiot if I'm late for an appointment; I don't lose my patience in stores, banks or restaurants if there's a slowdown in customer service; and I definitely don't freak out about inconsequential matters like business paperwork or artificial deadlines. Life is too short, realize your priorities.

I believe in maintaining a positive outlook. In the army, I learned that when you commit your reinforcements, you allocate them to the successful campaign first so you can concentrate all your resources to the stalled mission later. "Reinforce success, not failure" has since become my mantra. Don't get bogged down with focusing on the negative things in life, just handle the little things first and then work on your big problems. Don't be one of those irritating people that just sit around whining about their problems--just suck it up and deal with it.

I believe that this is a great thread!:dancingbanana:
 
I believe that everything has a natural explanation, and so, supernatural explanations are unnecessary.
 
Alright so this post is going to make me sound like I should be in an institution, which would be awesome because I love straight jackets. I believe in aliens and well here's why...My mom expressed to me when I was younger that she was abducted when she was freshly married to my father. When I was 13 years old, my mom, my sister and I went to go out for dinner one night in the summer, and we got home fairly late in the evening. It was a really clear night, the stars were brighter than I have ever seen. Well we're getting out of the car and it's silent. I mean REALLY silent, no summer night crickets or horny frogs croaking. We walked half way to the porch, given I lived in the country so my closest neighbor was a mile away. We heard this kind of humming sound, my mom looks up and just whispers "Don't move!"...My sister and I look up, there are these golden lights with red outlining them hovering over the house. I would say it was anywhere from 500ft-800ft from the roof. It stayed there for about 2 minutes, just humming and hovering. Then it rose up and sailed into the sky elsewhere. Scared the fucking shit out of me, I didn't sleep for about a week. And to end it off my mom says once they leave "they're probably just checking on me". Until this day, you will not catch me dead in the dark outside. And to add to that adventure, I went swimming with a friend of mine here in Louisville, in the dark, we were laying on the lodge patio chairs, looking up, and saw some weird light movement in the sky. Trust me this was not airplanes, unless airplanes can turn at a 90 degree angle now.
 
I believe in the supernatural.

I believe in G-d and my religion. (Just gave it away there.)

I too believe in the power of music and friends.

I believe you only live once so you may as well enjoy it.
 
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