Stop me if this has been asked before (or redirect me to that thread at least) but,
Why is there extra appeal to having a lee that "hates" to be tickled or "can't stand it"? I realize that it's part of the fantasy for some but...I guess I'm curious why.
Does it fall in line with non-consensual fantasy? If so, do you prefer to see your lee cry, grimace, scream and break down, as opposed to laughing?
Meanwhile here I am fantasizing about lees that are super sensitive to tickling but enjoy it enough to repeat the experience, even if it makes them safe word (kinda like me I guess lol)!
Not an attack I swear...just trying to understand my fellow fetishists more, if I can.
I almost didn't respond to this question, not because of how you worded it (which was very respectful), but because it is just such a hard question to answer for me.
I think we like to think of ourselves as single-minded beings–That is to say, our thoughts are smoothly defined and they generally line up with our feelings and our actions. And when they don't, it was just a temporary glitch. But thoughts contradict each other and further conflict with feelings and emotions all the time. Some of the things I love, I also hate. There is a strongly embedded value system within me that holds me to a standard of never wanting to hurt, or otherwise inconvenience others. At the same time, there is this deeply embedded primal part of me that gets some kind of satisfaction out of tormenting others. There's power over them and there's just something inarticulatable that lights up in my brain when they can't stand it. It's up to my higher consciousness to balance between these two parts of me.
In fantasy, such as stories and such, I can just let much more of that primal side run free for a while. You know, like in a video game. I don't want to shoot people in real life, but sometimes it feels like a good relaxing Sunday afternoon in-game.
In reality, it gets much more complicated. If I tickle someone non-consentually, it's not indescriminently. It's rare and I'm careful about who, what, when, where, why, and how. It's usually with people I know or have a good idea of how they'd react. It's short and experimental, unless it becomes clear they're having fun. Consentual non-consent is different. I'm willing to go harder and longer, but only if I really get to know the person and go over the idea with them and thoroughly know how they feel about it. I usually won't even bring it up first–That's for them to do because I want to make sure they want it. But when one of those sessions is happening, it can get intense and in the moment, the lee might hate it. And I can understand the appeal from that perspective. When I'm being tickled that way, I love to hate it.
I'd say most of the time, though, my ideal is having the lee dance on the threshold of tolerability. Get intense reactions from them, occasionally remind them they could be tickle-destroyed if I was less charitable, and just enjoy the full spectrum of their beautiful reactions.
In terms of what kind of extreme reactions I like, if it's one of those pure non-consensual situations, just laughter and maybe a scream or two. I usually do these as a playful thing, but sometimes for revenge or to get someone to admit something. In consensual non-consent, occasionally crying is sexy to me, but I'd never venture there without thoroughly and explicitly discussing it first. Other than that, while I find all forms of laughter to be some of the best reactions, I also love screaming, begging, cursing, and most manner of similar things. I think it's just part of the control dynamic and playing with power. Those kind of reactions just naturally feel like the right energy exchange for that kind of game (playing with vulnerability).
Hmm...I'm still not really satisfied with my answer, but I guess it will have to do. Hopefully this provides at least a little insight. If you need clarification, let me know.
