Why do people put up with political correctness and other nonsense?!

[mabus]

I started this thread as a take off to the one about the balls being banned on the playground.

Everyone was against it.

A lot of silly, stupid, insane, crazy, and offensive things happen and rights are taken away, in the name of political correctness.

You can't say things, you can have fun, you can't display things, all totally against the First Amendment.

You need not even defend your right to say, display or wear those things - it's a right.

It'd be like having to stop and explain to someone why you're going buy milk at the grocery store, or why you're driving down the road.
It's your right to do those things.....that's it.

And yet, when political correctness, which is designed to quash free speech, free expression of ideas, etc. .....everyone treats the offended like
they are the voice and authority of GOD and immediately buckle and follow their "commands."

They all grumble and oppose it, liberals and conservatives, yet the follow "orders."

And my whole life, I've always asked WHY?!!!!!!

If everyone disagrees with it....why not everyone say "Fuck This Shit!" and refuse to follow along?

This does happen sometimes, and honestly, people have backed down.
Rappers can say whatever the fuck they want, and they get away with it because if someone has a problem with them....HA! Like they give a fuck! Or they'll beat them up or what have you. You see, the people who promote political correctness want all that power to control people, and enjoy when people grumble and follow their demands.....but because of the very nature of them being "offended" all day long, obviously, they're wusses, and the rappers and other mean people know this, or don't care, and the political correct police have NO power over them.
There was a football game in Louisiana, where the entire stadium was forbidden to pray or mention God during the game, because, I shit you now, TWO atheists sued. This was known before the game days before. Well, the student council president say "Fuck this shit!" and led a prayer anyway, and everybody loudly prayed along to his prayer. No one was arrested...because how can a few cops arrest an entire pissed off stadium of people?

If more stuff like this happened, people would have more rights, because they wouldn't go along with this crap.

Thoughts, disagreements, "right ons"?

 

[Korastus]

If I understand your post correctly, you seem to be taking issue with political correctness taken to extremes. Banning all but certain types of balls on a playground, suing over public prayer, etc. all smacks less of political correctness and more of insanity.
Frankly, any idea or system of belief taken to extremes is likely to go off the rails and become absurd anyway. Political correctness, within the bounds of reason, plays an important role in civilized society. Ideally, people should be allowed to express themselves freely, without negative ramifications, but should choose to exercise good judgement in what they express and how they express it. Yes, one can say whatever one wants, as loudly and angrily, as acerbic and insulting as they so choose, but it SHOULD be looked down upon in civilized society, because it's the kind of thing a douchebag does.

 

[Jagermeistered]

"Political Correctness"...

It is stupid as it sounds! But, democracy is a mob-rule society...

I hope this statement is taken seriously. *And, might move to the PR forum*; more bashing needs too, progress!

 

[mabus]

I didn't want it to turn into Republicans vs. Democrats, because I've seen people on BOTH sides get all hot and bothered when it happens.

Look, if you say political correctness doesn't exist.... okay, believe it, knock yourself out..... I'm going to go ask every person in America, and they'll all say yes, but if you want to argue semantics....someone else is going to have to .....

I'm wondering why everyone here backs it up?

(I don't. I live a politically incorrect life, telling whatever jokes I wish, and making comments up to the point I won't lose my job.)
I choose not to live in fear my whole life, because that's political correctness's main goal - to keep people in fear.

Or do people love it?

Do they love it when their kid gets thrown out of school because they had pepto bismol on them for a stomach?
Do they love to be told they aren't allowed to say things? When their football team has a mascot that an Indian, and they're attacked, do they enjoy being called
racist and intolerant? When they're told they can't offer a prayer at a sporting event, do they say "Yeah, we suck! We shouldn't do this, for 2 minutes, because it'll
piss off two people....who aren't even here."

(I Googled "Politically correct news stories"...strange, things showed up....)

 

[Bothersome]

There's a difference between being politically incorrect and being socially offensive.

 

[Bohemianne]

I don't. I live a politically incorrect life, telling whatever jokes I wish, and making comments up to the point I won't lose my job.

Hmmm... See? You have a reservation to not lose your job... 😉 😀

Or do people love it?

It's complicated. When people live life as is where is, the inner Jekyll and Hyde will do the tug-of-war within, come up with a decision and deliver a unique output of whatever they presently do.

 

[TklDuo-Drew]

I'm sorry, but it's NOT politically correct to CHALLENGE others views, to USE obscenties, to buy MILK at a store, to SPEAK your mind, to HAVE fun, to BE at a playground, or to be DRIVING down a road!!!!! What is wrong with you people??????????




Drew

 

[mabus]

I'm sorry, but it's NOT politically correct to CHALLENGE others views, to USE obscenties, to buy MILK at a store, to SPEAK your mind, to HAVE fun, to BE at a playground, or to be DRIVING down a road!!!!! What is wrong with you people??????????

Sooo....or you for political correctness or against it?

(I'm still trying to figure out the "milk" thing....🙂)

And lose my job to be the point of being absurdly vulgar......... luckily, that helped me give a good example:

One form of political correctness is what the feminists have done to American culture. Now, I am ALL for women getting equal pay, equal rights.....hell, I'm stunned that they have to fight to make as much as men, and get a huge kick when it's in places like Hollywood, run by liberals who are supposedly better than us bigoted heathens in fly over country. If I am the boss, OF COURSE all the women would get the same pay as men, depending on how hard they worked with raises and such......meaning, all humans treated equal, if the women work harder than the men....sorry guys, they'll be laughing at your little pay check.

Okay, that being said, one form of political correctness is how men and women must treat each other in the work place, etc. Sexual harassment rules and laws started out GREAT! If the asshole male boss said "in order to get that raise, babe, fuck me on this couch.....or be fired...." the women could now sue his ass. Fantastic.

But...eventually it grew and expanded.....until if a guy (or now, girl) simply tells a co-worker her dress looks nice, or some utterly simple compliment, they could get in serious trouble at work.
But...don't women and men WANT, or need, the occasional compliment? (Maybe that's why people don't dress up for work anymore...why bother?)

And I think it's just sad. (I'm typing this with my sad font, in case anyone blood starts boiling..."It IS sexual harassment, rahhrr!!!!!!" yeah, whatever.
But there are so many times I bet regular people would love to have someone just tell them, "You know, you're very pretty, or you're very handsome. Not asking you out, just paying a kind, human compliment." But because of the fear of the person going off on them, they don't. Now, I see women every day who are really beautiful, but don't fit the New York Vanity Fair runway ideal of the "pretty" woman. A lot of my friends have been complaining about "society's view of beauty.." if they don't look like human sticks.

I think this is just.....sad. I see women often who are just beautiful, but I'm not telling them that, because of political correctness, I don't want ONE person who, instead of taking it as a simple compliment, and having a good day, instead goes complains to my boss and gets me fired or reprimanded. And it's sad because I think about all the women (or men) who walk around everyday feeling ugly, or just average, because NO ONE has every complimented them on their beauty, because they're afraid to.

If we didn't have all this PC crap, many people would be having their days made.

So that's my simple opinion. I could find a lot more, and maybe I'll have to.
(I know of one, much more sinister, about two gay guys who had adopted a boy, and were molesting him. The people who would visit the house to check up on adopted kids saw evidence of this, but did nothing because they were afraid of the backlash about reporting two gay guys.....it finally was stopped and I think they arrested, but, if PC didn't exist, it would have been reported immediately.

Or the fact that we search grandma and molest-I mean "pat down" 4 year old little girls and boy....holding teddy bears, because they MAY be a Muslim terrorist, but won't just give extra searches to actual Muslims......who are doing all this terrorism...because....aww hell if I know.)

 

[Bothersome]

Sooo....or you for political correctness or against it?

(I'm still trying to figure out the "milk" thing....🙂)

And lose my job to be the point of being absurdly vulgar......... luckily, that helped me give a good example:

One form of political correctness is what the feminists have done to American culture. Now, I am ALL for women getting equal pay, equal rights.....hell, I'm stunned that they have to fight to make as much as men, and get a huge kick when it's in places like Hollywood, run by liberals who are supposedly better than us bigoted heathens in fly over country. If I am the boss, OF COURSE all the women would get the same pay as men, depending on how hard they worked with raises and such......meaning, all humans treated equal, if the women work harder than the men....sorry guys, they'll be laughing at your little pay check.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

First sentence.

It's fascinating how many people are against that simple principle.

 

[Korastus]

Sooo....or you for political correctness or against it?

(I'm still trying to figure out the "milk" thing....🙂)

And lose my job to be the point of being absurdly vulgar......... luckily, that helped me give a good example:

One form of political correctness is what the feminists have done to American culture. Now, I am ALL for women getting equal pay, equal rights.....hell, I'm stunned that they have to fight to make as much as men, and get a huge kick when it's in places like Hollywood, run by liberals who are supposedly better than us bigoted heathens in fly over country. If I am the boss, OF COURSE all the women would get the same pay as men, depending on how hard they worked with raises and such......meaning, all humans treated equal, if the women work harder than the men....sorry guys, they'll be laughing at your little pay check.

Okay, that being said, one form of political correctness is how men and women must treat each other in the work place, etc. Sexual harassment rules and laws started out GREAT! If the asshole male boss said "in order to get that raise, babe, fuck me on this couch.....or be fired...." the women could now sue his ass. Fantastic.

But...eventually it grew and expanded.....until if a guy (or now, girl) simply tells a co-worker her dress looks nice, or some utterly simple compliment, they could get in serious trouble at work.
But...don't women and men WANT, or need, the occasional compliment? (Maybe that's why people don't dress up for work anymore...why bother?)

And I think it's just sad. (I'm typing this with my sad font, in case anyone blood starts boiling..."It IS sexual harassment, rahhrr!!!!!!" yeah, whatever.
But there are so many times I bet regular people would love to have someone just tell them, "You know, you're very pretty, or you're very handsome. Not asking you out, just paying a kind, human compliment." But because of the fear of the person going off on them, they don't. Now, I see women every day who are really beautiful, but don't fit the New York Vanity Fair runway ideal of the "pretty" woman. A lot of my friends have been complaining about "society's view of beauty.." if they don't look like human sticks.

I think this is just.....sad. I see women often who are just beautiful, but I'm not telling them that, because of political correctness, I don't want ONE person who, instead of taking it as a simple compliment, and having a good day, instead goes complains to my boss and gets me fired or reprimanded. And it's sad because I think about all the women (or men) who walk around everyday feeling ugly, or just average, because NO ONE has every complimented them on their beauty, because they're afraid to.

If we didn't have all this PC crap, many people would be having their days made.

So that's my simple opinion. I could find a lot more, and maybe I'll have to.
(I know of one, much more sinister, about two gay guys who had adopted a boy, and were molesting him. The people who would visit the house to check up on adopted kids saw evidence of this, but did nothing because they were afraid of the backlash about reporting two gay guys.....it finally was stopped and I think they arrested, but, if PC didn't exist, it would have been reported immediately.

I see you citing excellent examples of why extreme political correctness is a problem. Suing over a compliment is absolutely something that HAS occurred, but unless there is data to prove otherwise, I rather doubt that is a common response, so I'm not sure why political correctness as an idea in it's entirety is so bad.

Or the fact that we search grandma and molest-I mean "pat down" 4 year old little girls and boy....holding teddy bears, because they MAY be a Muslim terrorist, but won't just give extra searches to actual Muslims......who are doing all this terrorism...because....aww hell if I know.)

Muslim is not a race. It is a religion. Anyone can be Muslim, and not all Middle-Eastern people, which I believe is what you meant, are Muslim.

 

[Bothersome]

Muslim is not a race. It is a religion. Anyone can be Muslim, and not all Middle-Eastern people, which I believe is what you meant, are Muslim.

Well, if we want to be absolutely technical here, 'muslim' isn't a religion. xP

Muslim is just how someone of the Islam faith is referred to.

 

[Korastus]

Well, if we want to be absolutely technical here, 'muslim' isn't a religion. xP

Muslim is just how someone of the Islam faith is referred to.

True, I phrased that poorly. XD

 

[LD_Tickler]

Sorry wait. Did I misread, or is the idea that banning balls from a playground is an example of being politically correct? That's just a bunch of lame safety nonsense. Political corectness is about how you express views. Generally, its supporters think that people should be wary of offending people with careless speech. Detractors don't. You'll find plenty of folks on either side.