• If you would like to get your account Verified, read this thread
  • Check out Tickling.com - the most innovative tickling site of the year.
  • The TMF is sponsored by Clips4sale - By supporting them, you're supporting us.
  • >>> If you cannot get into your account email me at [email protected] <<<
    Don't forget to include your username

why isn't there more f/m tickling out there

doseone

TMF Poster
Joined
Nov 15, 2001
Messages
143
Points
0
Hi there this is my probably 3rd or 4th contributation but I was just curious I've been around the tickling newsgroups and such for a while but it seems like there isn't really that much f/m tickling out there. Does anyone have any insight as to why we don't see more f/m tickling videos or pics? As someone who enjoys f/m the lack of content and material has always kind of bothered me so does anyone else feel the same way or have any insight as to why there isn't more stuff out there for us? Thanks everyone
 
Wasn't that much quality stuff.

Hi Stef2dope,

I think up until very recently there wasn't that much quality material. The few videos that were out were kind of silly mainly put out by Prestige and Platinum both of which are out of business. I think the fact that those early videos probably didn't sell well probably convinced a lot of early fetish video producers that there wasn't a market. I think there is a market for it if the pictures or videos are well made. I also think that men will buy this material as well as women though I have no ideal as to what the percentages are.
Myself I kind of switch between f/f, f/m, and m/f material being mainly interested in the quality of the stuff rather than the kind of stuff offered.

There is some suff out there now. Yaqi has 3 f/m videos of which I have two and I would say they are pretty good I would suggest you look at his website and judge for yourself if you want them. Remember his site is being pulled down at the end of the year. Footparadise has two f/m vidoes which are pretty good as well. Also FM Concepts has started a www.meninbondage.com website which has a women tickling men section. They also have a video "Girls Tickle, Guys Giggle" which is not bad. Silvercherry productions also has two f/m videos with the promise of more on the way. Thats all I can think of right now, if I you are interested and I think of any more stuff I will post it to this thread. Also in a previous thread Mistress Mia has said she was interested in doing a f/m video. I am certain if she does do it, it will be very good.

Anyway I think things are improving in the f/m market I think if the quality is good then people will buy it.
 
I don't like /m at all. Just don't. I think the reason that you don't see a lot of it is because the (active) tickling community is prodominantly male. Women do come here, but many of them are 'lees. There aren't as many male 'lees as there are 'lers, unless i'm wrong (which is very very possible). Also, because for most of us tickling has somewhat of a sexual nature, and because many of us are heterosexual, this adds up to a wealth of /f material. Hope this answers your query.
 
Scooby112211 said:
Also, because for most of us tickling has somewhat of a sexual nature, and because many of us are heterosexual, this adds up to a wealth of /f material. Hope this answers your query.

Scooby112211,

Are you saying that if a person (like stef2dope, myself, and many others) happens to like f/m, they're not heterosexual?

I remember when the TMF was on ezboards, and I posted an F/M video clip one day, and I got so much negative responses to it. So many people reacted by calling it "gay". Excuse me, but just because I like F/M does NOT make me gay. F/M is heterosexual, not homosexual. M/M is clearly homosexual, and when you think about it ... so is F/F. 🙄

Stef2dope, there is a lot f/m tickling material out there. If you go to the TMF's story section, you'll find quite a few pieces of material which is f/m.

I'm male also, and I too enjoy f/m tickling. For me, it's of a sexual nature. Furthermore, there's a lot of other people out there who enjoy it as well. You're not alone, stef2dope.

The Rhythm Doctor
 
This goes back to what I was saying in the thread NJjen started about why guys like f/f.

I agree that f/m is nowhere near homosexual in nature, but like I said, most guys are visual, and not thinking about being the guy tickled, just wanting to see tickling.... I think for a lot of guys, to see a girl tickle a guy would draw their attention to the one being tickled, and if that is coupled with an arousal response to a guy, then it kind of makes a lot of men uncomfortable....especially because I thik there are a lot more male 'lers out there than 'lees.

f/m is not gay porn, LOL, however f/f is.... yet everyone gets soo angry about gay porn...

what is wrong with this picture??

I say to each their own, as long as everything is well labeled as to m/f, f/f, f/m, or even m/m then all is OK.

if I remember right most of the anger on the old board came from people getting all hot and bothered when they clicked on what they thought would be a cute girl getting tickled and lo and behold up pops a hairy laughing dude!! what a buzz killer.

Have a good day.

Slappy McGee
 
Ok here is something else to add to the way to look at this:

The gender orientation of ones fetish behavior can differ from the gender orientation of ones sexual preference.

This happens because many fetish behaviors are based on the psychological predesposure on the Dominate/submissive spectrum. And this behavior spectrum doesn't seem to key to gender so much as it keys to power relationships. So fetishes often become gender non specific.

So when a person approaches the topic, there might be a conflict that happens. Sexuality and Fetish orientations collide. Since society factors, and sexual gender orientation are the strongest ones due to their constant reinforcement by almost everything around us, they tend to win out. And people fall back on sexual orientation for their fetish play. This leaves a lot of people feeling odd that they have an attraction to same sex fetish play, and no idea how to deal with it.

Complicated psychology. Interesting though.

Myriads
 
wow

insightful point, Myriads

I had never really thought about the fact that a fetish could transcend gender.... but it makes a lot of sense.

On the other hand, that is not true in my case. All of my interests center around females.

It would be interesting to hear from some people that this does apply to. I imagine that cold be a confusing thing to go through, as though having a fetish isn't stressfull enough at times.... sheesh.

Slappy McGee
 
I'd say two reasons. First, in general girls are less vocal about their sexual fantasies and desires (therefore wouldn't buy the videos, and second their are less girls with a tickling fetish (or at least they stay quiet).
 
Why isn't there more f/m material? You mean pictures and video clips? In addition to Myriads' observation, there's the fact that there's not a profitable-enough call for the female dominant content, same as the lack of female dominant or male subordinant sexually explicit magazines (read: Playgirl)

Women don't tend to buy that stuff as much. Don't know why, but there've been more studies on that then you'd believe. Sociology and psychology has decades of research on male dominance there.

An aside - The folks into f/m play aren't ASKING as much, either. The fellows that show to gatherings and ASK to be tickled by the women there are favored individuals. Those of us that will reciprocate for the generous female 'lees are appreciated as well. Those of us that saw how men into such were treated on the alt groups saw much punative crap for guys who just wanted t'be tickled by a woman.

Heck, even the folks ASKING video companies for f/m content is only JUST increasing. SY barely got such requests at all, back when they did custom vids.

Hopefully, the planet will grow to accept folks and what they want, REGARDLESS of the genderal dominance.

Prayin' for evolution to continue,

dvnc
 
interesting discussion...

I was reading this discussion, and I had to add my 2 cents:

I am a male that leans towards the 'lee side of things. I think that when I watch ticke material, I subconsciously envision myself in the 'lee's position. I therefore don't like any m/* stuff, I stick to the f/*.

However, I also have a foot fetish, and I don't like to see any male feet up close. Any f/m upperbody stuff is cool, but I stay away from seeing any f/m foot tickling. It is because of this last fact that I have never financially supported any f/m videos. They all have some sort of foot tickling involved. I have plenty of f/f videos, but none that are f/m.

My point is that this is another possible reason why there is so little f/m material. Even those (like myself) who are not opposed to it end up not supporting it because there are other variations (i.e. f/f) that they prefer.
 
I just wanted to add a woman's prespective to this thread.

What I've noticed is that I'm more prone to enjoy the written word than a video. To read the story and them imagine myself in the role of the "lee" or the "ler" is more interesting for me. In talking to some of the other gals, they feel much the same way. Psychologically speaking I believe it's been proven that women generally do prefer the written word than the pictures or videos.

Since women tend not to purchase videos as often as the men the companies will focus their efforts on videos that the men will buy. Makes perfect sense when you're looking at the money aspect of staying in business and being profitable.

Sure, it's a shame especially when there is a market, although limited, for f/m videos. But the companies are in business to make money and if the video isn't going to sell then why produce it. I have two of the Paradise videos with the f/m story lines. I've enjoyed them both immensely. The only other f/m videos I've seen are those made by Kujman. Those were private viewings I saw long ago. I believe he has one of them available to order but I don't know if he's ever shipped out any of his orders.

The other hinderance is that often men asking for f/m videos are ridiculed. I've never quite understood why. Frankly, I think it's quite a treat when a guy will allow himself to be tickled by a woman or women at one of our gatherings. It's a rare occurrence indeed and very much appreciated. Hopefully more of the guys will allow us ladies to indulge ourselves. We don't video those scenes but they're sure imbedded in our memory! LOL

Jan
 
What's it about? It's about some folks wanting to know where there's not MORE f/m tickling content. Clearly, you, Solefully Yours, TJ and others, way back when, were doin' such videos. There just weren't many, and still aren't.

Worse, with the exception of this place, most commentary on such, such as in the USENET groups like amt and asft, were met with hostility from certain folks. If you'd not noticed such hostilities, that's a great thing, 'cause I've seen such this year, and every year prior, since comin' online at the start of the last decade.

Given such, it ain't too big a surprise to find that most of the small houses producin' videos for our interest are focusing on m/f.

It's just sad, though. There's a tremendous interest in buying your products, but the VOLUME of f/m product in the market, for our interest, is scant, and not well advertised.

Add to that, the fact that you're leaving, and come 2002, it'll be smaller still.

My observations, mind ya,

dvnc
 
Another Two Cents

I would agree with dvnc that there was a lot of hostility on the tickling usenet groups when the subject of any */m material was mentioned or posted. However there seems to be nothing but hostility on those groups no matter what you talk about. This place is the reason I decided to delurk because we can have a discussion about something like f/m material without flaming each other. If you look at those groups now its almost all flame and very little substance.

I still think there is still a large interest in f/m material and if there were more people like Yaqi producing quality videos it would be larger still. Remember FM Concepts has just even started to offer some f/m material so there must be some market for it. Perhaps the fact of the hostility from usenet groups has made lurkers out of many such people that would like to see this sort of stuff.

One more point everyone talks as if there were tons of video companies making tickling videos and there are not that many making quality tickling videos. Note the word quality which leaves out "Cal Star" and "Vid Tech" with that Kahuna Wong guy. So the fact there are some companies that offer f/m material is still pretty good I think. When I want a quality tickling video that is not f/m I still find myself anxiously awaiting the next Realtickling, Magic Touch, Footparadise or FM Concepts video release (excuse me if I left someone out). I think the more people that accept tickling as an expression of sexuality the more quality video producers there will be and that will translate into more f/m material as well.

Another humble two cents worth from me.
 
Here are my two cents worth.

IF the fems in the community spoke out and demanded f/m tickle material and purchased said material then there would be more of the aformentioned material produced.

Tickling only APPEARS to be a male dominant passion.
There are indeed women that love tickling as much as we gentleman.
Too many keep it to themselves.


TTD
 
As TTD said...."There are indeed women that love tickling as much as we gentleman."

Amen. I love being a "ler" as much as I love being a "lee".
 
It sounds like females dont like to 'brag' about it, while males have no problem letting it out in a place like this 🙂 😀
 
Another .02 about how come not so much F/m...

I'm sure it has a lot to do with profitability, and the hostility often (though not here) directed toward people who express interest. I'd also wondered if there was a big element of "men-have-to-be-in-control" and so it was difficult to find models.

Y'know, extremetickling.com has a whole F/m section, but the best stuff is not even there, it's in the 'Ticklespot' section which has a *bunch* of clips of a good-looking young fellow restrained and at the mercy of a rather lovely young woman, not that she shows much mercy. IMO the best has him in nothing but boxers, loosely restrained at the wrists and ankles so he can struggle a good bit but to little avail, and she works him over but good. She knows what she's doing and appears to enjoy it, too... always a plus...

...may the Gods and Goddesses bless Uncle Steven for persevering through his technical problems... the site's been running smoothly (for me anyway) for the last couple or three weeks, and it's just been reorganized to be more user-friendly.
 
Ring up another two cents.

I don't think it would be a problem to find male models. I think a lot of men would jump at the chance to be tickled by a woman. So I don't think the control issue is really the reason. There are men and women who never want to take the ticklee role because it just doesn't appeal to them or for some other personal reasons. There are men and women who don't mind either role. Also there are men and women who only want to be in the ticklee role. FM Concepts "Men In Bondage" site now has a decent size f/m tickling section and they now have two videos out dealing with the subject. It appears at least they have no problems finding models who don't want to be in control. How the lack of f/m material started is probably anyones guess maybe the initial video producers thought that it looked too wimpy for a man to be tickled as torture and stuck to whipping and other more severe stuff. It could be that only now that some have produced quality material that people are finding out that it does sell. Just my humble opinion though.
 
I have come to realize that I love tickling every bit as much as being tickled (maybe even more). for me... vids and pics do not even come close to what a good story does for me. if other women feel as I do... well, then it would go a long way toward explaining the lack of f/m tickling vids and pics. sometimes a picture really is worth a thousand words tho 🙂
 
I know I would jump at the opportunity to appear in a vid and be tickled unmercifully by one two or more females!

There has to be a market out there for such vids.
I mean, don't you ladies like to see guys tickled as much as we guys like to see females tickled silly?

All ya all have to do as ask, yes?

Realtickling made one or two. How did sales go for them?
Did any of you ladies purchase it/them? Would you if there were more produced?

TTD😕 😀
 
hmmm.. thinking you just may not be talking to the "right girls"...

ForgottenTcklr said:
....in general girls are less vocal about their sexual fantasies and desires (therefore wouldn't buy the videos, and second their are less girls with a tickling fetish (or at least they stay quiet).

I am reading this thread thinking that for me it is just more of a private one on one issue. If I posted all about my sexual fantasies and desires in an open forum such as this, it would take that privacy away.

It is very exciting to meet someone that intrigues me enough to open up and share those things. :Kiss2: When reading the forum there are certain things that trigger me enough to respond. Just the other day I responded to the Clitoral Tickling post. I read and reread it before posting saying to myself it was on topic to the point and very alive with real life clitoral tickling, the exact topic being discussed. I decided to hit the submit button and then reread it again. I let it go for a few hours or so..logged back on read the forum again and decided WOW this is just too personal to share in such a public place. Thinking of editing it, I just deleted it, knowing the full content was the only way it would be a good read. The privacy won out again. (Thanking Myr for that button!!)

As for the discussion of hetrosexuality and tickling. I think that Myriads hit it right on the head when he said people tend to think their sexuality preferences can't cross their fetish boundary. When I first attended a NEST gathering, it was the first one with any women. It was me and one other. At one point I was being tickled ...and I asked her for help. LOL Well she helped alright, she helped my friend tickle me! The attention turned from the tv screen to me laughing soooo hard. The thought of her being a woman was not a problem. It is/was not the gender that made it erotic it was the tickle itself. My body could not decifer the sensations from her fingernails up and down my neck and shoulders to his fingers on my feet and toes. The act of the tickling was the turn on. Did I want to have sex with her ....no...was it exciting? yes very! Do I want to sleep with women now... no. If the guys in the room had to close their eyes before it began would they know who was even tickling me .. I doubt it. But knowing because they saw her tickle me was it more arousing for them... I gather the general consensus would be yes.

An analogy (like DVNC is so famous for) hehehe.....If 2 people order the same type of dinner does that mean they both have to have it rare with sour cream on the potato and same veggies? NOPE! Imagine just before tickling asking the questions...
How would you like this tickling rare, medium or well done? LOL Hope you all choose well done ::giggling:: Would you care to have make up brushes with that? or just plain fingers? LOL 😎 🙄
AND when all is said and done the dinner was great and so was the tickle if you ordered it JUST the way you like it....with a few surprises thrown in..

I say enjoy what you enjoy. Choose well the people you share your loves, passions and giggles with and life can be grand!

I almost forgot........Men that love to be tickled are such a turn on for me. Its kind of the letting down of defenses and showing the same trust I give them when being on the receiving end....

OK my 2 cents worth maybe 10 even! ; )

All Ways Ticklish...rare, medium and well! LOL

~Donna
 
Last edited:
Donna, that was a wonderful post. glad you didn't hit the delete button on that one 🙂. I wrestle with alot of the same issues and also considered posting to that thread you mentioned but chickened out lol. thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
 
I found it kind of interesting that most of the female responses in this thread mention preferring to read a story rather than look at vids/pictures. Ven and I have had this discussion a few times, as he is obviously into the visual stimulation 😛 while I can sit down and really get into a well written story.. I'll have to suppose this is not coincidental. Regardless, I could never see myself getting out the credit card to buy a tickling vid (unless as a gift for Ven), regardless of f/f, f/m, so I am not surprised when I don't find content catering to whatever my fantasies might be.
 
What's New

2/10/2025
Check out the TMF Welcome forum and take a moment to say hello to us!
Door 44
Live Camgirls!
Live Camgirls
Streaming Videos
Pic of the Week
Pic of the Week
Congratulations to
*** brad1701 ***
The winner of our weekly Trivia, held every Sunday night at 11PM EST in our Chat Room
Back
Top