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Yenny Cartoon

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I seriously doubt that tickling would be involved though. Alvarez has pretty much made Yenny 'legit'.
 
Hey it yenny, yenny without tickling is like a woman without feet!
 
He has a point, but if somehow it does happen, that will be awesome. Though it be hard to build a show based off of tickling, without tickling
 
well it is a spain animation company, if they can have a tickle spa they can have this!
 
Good to hear, we'll need to raise quite a hefty sum of money $50,000
 
Oh my god. I would sell my soul to make this happen. Nah, I'm kidding, I wouldn't give that much.

Maybe half my soul.
 
Hey it yenny, yenny without tickling is like a woman without feet!

I'm just making sure that people are aware that if they contribute actual money to this there may be no tickling at all. Alvarez wants Yenny as a mainstream character.

Caveat Emptor.
 
I seriously doubt that tickling would be involved though. Alvarez has pretty much made Yenny 'legit'.

I'm just making sure that people are aware that if they contribute actual money to this there may be no tickling at all. Alvarez wants Yenny as a mainstream character.

Caveat Emptor.

Well according to "The Art of Yenny" Book, Yenny's ticklishness is as much a part of her as is her Latina heritage. Her ticklishness is as iconic as her blue hair. There is even a small section dedicated to her ticklishness in the book highlighting a few strips that have tickling involved. Though tickling may not be a major focus of Yenny like it is here on the forums, Yenny's ticklishness will be implemented in some form. In fact if you go to Yenny's black maria page here...

http://www.blackmaria.es/projects/yenny/

and go to "gallery" and hit "storyboard" it showcases a classic plot where Yenny get's her feet tickled by Zacha.



While the Yenny comic is quite endearing. The fact of the matter is, when she was about to go mainstream last time. There was a no post policy at the TMF (not sure about here) David; her creator asked for everything was removed from the site in regards to Yenny. When that deal fell through David was back to selling the Yenny tickle comics at MTJ and posting her image on the TMF.

So it is safe to say your money would go towards a project that will absolutely remove Yenny from the tickle world. I wish both David and his beloved character Yenny the best of luck but for anyone to ask for money for that project is not being honest about the situation.

True, however that was for all official Yenny artwork made by The Oz...the rules on the TMF, TT and from Ozzy had no effects on any fan art of the character (I asked an admin to confirm this).The only thing that would be removed is the official art... not the fan art. Besides, it's not like anyone posts any official Yenny stuff these days anyway! 😀

I don't pay sell-outs.

Heh...now that's not very nice. Dave is only trying to make something positive and prosperous out of a project he has since 15. According to him in a journal on deviant art, Morandillas at MTJ publishing came to him and asked if Yenny could be published as a tickle comic. Yenny as the tickle fetish icon she is today wasn't Dave's intention at first, but by default, her big ticklish feet made her likeable using that to bolster her popularity. He's not selling out to anything or anyone he's continuing what he initially intended to do in the first place while. We're fortunate that Yenny was even here in the first place...
 
True is where you should have stopped. What I stated was absolute fact: When she was about to go mainstream in the past. There was a no post policy at the TMF Yenny's creator asked for everything was removed from the site in regards to Yenny. When that deal fell through he went back to selling the Yenny tickle comics and posting her image on the TMF; Which was I think a little tasteless, but the show must go on.

Therefore anyone putting money into this project that will absolutely remove Yenny from the tickle world. This situation is like a child who has moved out of his parents house for the sake of independence, and then going back there every day for three meals and having his laundry to be done for him. The only difference we are not David's parents. Yenny's funding would be much better sought in the mainstream arena.🙂🙂

You are correct, I didn't discount what you said, the same rules were applied for tickle theater as well. Yes he did say to remove everything on TT and TMF however that was in refference to any artwork that HE did. Like I said in my last comment, the rule was a "no post policy" on OFFICIAL material done by him. Dave requested the remove rule to sever any official connections to past fetish work... I know it is solely on official artwork because I asked admins on the forums to verify if fan art was prohibited as well (since I wanted to draw some at the time). It was cleared that fan art was NOT prohibited so long as the creator himself had no problems with it. THAT is an absolute fact... 😉

Heck...There is even some Yenny fan work still left on the TMF since 2005...

So as I said, the only thing that would be removed is the official artwork... Yenny cannot be fully removed so long as there are artists and others who still enjoy her here. Heck she was gone for seven years and TK folk were still talking about her before she came back! Plus Dave still had her tickled in the mainstream comics! It is the combination of these things that will have Yenny stay on the forums no matter the outcome.

Lastly, yes the deal fell through and he went back to tickle comics, but probably out of necessity... as another avenue he could use to continue the Yenny cartoon project since the issue with the deal was a lack of funding. Yenny isn't ran by a big corporation, it is under only Dave, a dude who has a currently separated family and trying to still find just a shred of success anyway that he can these days...

This is exactly why he's having this fundraiser. This is exactly why leaving the funding to just the "mainstream arena" is not such a good idea... he has tried his hand with them for all the years that Yenny was away... why do you think he's back here? 😀

I say, all those that want to contribute to the fundraiser here in the forums, go for it... Don't forget that a lot of fans that like her in the tickle world also love her in the mainstream and vice versa... It would be greedy to keep her and Dave from being successful for the sake of our fetish... that would be "tasteless"... 🙂🙂
 
What about that scene he was doing?
scene? idk, it all just looks like generic cartooning now. Yenny had a soul (to me) when she was actually fetishistic. Now its like "oh..wait.....yea, ok, just a cartoon girl with blue hair. Wahoo"
 
As stated I wish Dave and Yenny all the best and would never try to keep him from success, but the bait and switch approach that has been presented is unsavory.

I don't know about that...seems like you're pretty intent on wanting Yenny to stay in the tickle world! 😉

As far as the fan art goes that is a strong miss-direction to veil the fact that once his toon goes mainstream (and I truly hope it becomes wildly successful) it will once again be removed.

Not a veil at all... It's true that certainty of the artwork staying is unclear. The fan art statement was to address that yes, the official artwork MIGHT be taken down (because at this point we can't accurately be sure), but the fan art will more than likely stay while also keeping interest in Yenny being in the tickle world.

Many people have supported David in the past and the return for that support was David snubbing his biggest supporters. What is truly tasteless is David asking people for money to do it once again.

How can you be totally sure that Dave's biggest supporters are from the tickle world? Or be sure that Yenny's entry in the tickling world is the most supportive entry that Yenny has? Dave has stated he has supporters from here to Europe and even Asia. The biggest supporters of Yenny are in Puerto Rico where he sells much of the merchandise and features them in the local paper. Girl even cosplay as her over there!

Also, it's not like Dave said...look Yenny's back...buy her tickle comics! No one is forced to buy it. Dave knows that Yenny was liked at a point here and is offering Yenny to those who still might be interested in her. By the time she came back after the 6-7 year absence, you can bet that most fans either have already bought her comics or her comic had been illegally distributed through 4chan and other places. So in the case of funding a project, or getting any large sum of money at all, it wouldn't make a huge financial dent anyway...

Lastly, the Yenny cartoon is a fabulous creation! I think if she didn't have the fetish attachment I think that she would have had a much better chance of becoming mainstream. Nonetheless her origins are fetishistic and sadly a mainstream company will probably not be able to move past that fact.

The fetish portrayal was once believed to be the issue, however the real issue is just getting the funding to do the project... no money means no pilot pitch to show to companies. These days if you can't present the idea that Yenny will work to the companies beyond a few drawings and storyboards then they won't even consider it. Also her origins aren't fetishistic. Yenny has been around since 1988, the fetish popularity part came around more than a decade later when MTJ Publishing got in contact with Dave because of the attribute he gave Yenny, which as you know, can be fetishized by the likes of us. 😉

David is an amazing artist and the iconic Yenny is the most beloved character in the Tickling World, and quite possibly that is where she will remain trapped. Maybe he could create a strictly mainstream character and develop her, while reaping the rewards from his fetishistic Yenny fan base.🙂🙂🙂

He actually has with the character "Yoly". Yoly seems to pick up where Yenny left off in the tickle world and due to her current popularity, Yoly stands to take Yenny's place entirely, while Yenny continues to get a mainstream show...

That is, if Yenny could just get the funding to do so...

scene? idk, it all just looks like generic cartooning now. Yenny had a soul (to me) when she was actually fetishistic. Now its like "oh..wait.....yea, ok, just a cartoon girl with blue hair. Wahoo"

That's a whole lot to assume for a cartoon that hasn't even came out yet! 😀
It's clear that you only enjoyed her only for the fetish, but please don't let that limited view provide full judgement over a character that has a large amount of history, or on the future ahead. Her comic strip series holds a variety of sexy and crazy humor within a ton of well captured scenarios which is great way to build a cartoon from...and if Dave could get the money, he could make it a reality.....

There's way more to Yenny than just her feet and ticklishness, my friend...
 
THE ONLY GOOD CAUSE IS A LOST CAUSE!

That said...anyone wanna donate for me? :stickout
 
Heh...now that's not very nice. Dave is only trying to make something positive and prosperous out of a project he has since 15. According to him in a journal on deviant art, Morandillas at MTJ publishing came to him and asked if Yenny could be published as a tickle comic. Yenny as the tickle fetish icon she is today wasn't Dave's intention at first, but by default, her big ticklish feet made her likeable using that to bolster her popularity. He's not selling out to anything or anyone he's continuing what he initially intended to do in the first place while. We're fortunate that Yenny was even here in the first place...

Everything you've stated doesn't make him any less of a sell-out. Whether he was untrue to his original "intention" and himself by making Yenny into a fetish icon (i.e. selling his "vision" for quick cash) or untrue to his fetish-based audience by removing his work as soon as the possibility of it going "mainstream" occurred (only to return his work once his mainstream comic attempt proved unprofitable), David Alvarez cannot escape what is so inextricably a part of who he is. I realize he's a friend and everything, but the truth is the truth. Dude forgot where he came from. Sue me if I think that's shady.

Yenny is already "mainstream" from her comic strip... this is all about getting Yenny into an animated cartoon which Dave has been trying to do for years, but like I said it's not that simple due to funding. That's why it's necessary to have this fundraiser to finally (and might I add, "legally") get money for the project from anyone who WANTS to contribute... Nobody is being forced to "dump their hard earned money". This is all to secure a pilot episode so that companies can see Yenny's potential as a full cartoon. But some people believe that the niche fetish interest that she has on the forums is more important than allowing her to progress.

How much did Jim Davis's friends have to donate before Garfield became a cartoon series? Did Charles Schultz need to put up a website that basically begged for cash in order to make his dream of an animated Charlie Brown come to life?

The reason why these two comic artists/writers (among many, many others) did not have to beg, borrow, or panhandle for money is because their comics were moderately-to-wildly successful when put before a mainstream audience. Their successful comics spoke for themselves and sold themselves. Obviously, that was not and is not the case with Yenny. From this, two points arise:

1. Yenny, unlike Garfield or Peanuts, is not a mainstream success even after a comic run that's lasted a few years. That means that it's either unliked by a wide mainstream audience or it's just plain unappealing and therefore unnoticed. Investing in the property (even in terms of a donation) is very risky. There is a good chance that the pilot will be found just as unappealing by a board of executives as the comic strip was by the casual comic strip reader. From a business standpoint, one might as well toss one's money down a hole. Artists just don't think like businessmen. They'd be much more successful if they did.

2. That "niche audience" you mentioned is pretty much Yenny's only audience. Fetish is where Yenny's been most successful thus far, even after some moderate mainstream exposure--that's not wishful thinking, that's a fact. That said, fetishists are likely to be the cartoon's (financially and otherwise). If the cartoon fails to go mainstream (a greater possibility than death itself at this point), will those who tossed change into David's cyber-hat ever see the pilot for themselves? By right, they should--but judging by David's "it's my party and I'll keep Yenny out of the fetish spotlight if I want to" attitude that he's displayed in the past, probably not.

But, tl;dr. While I don't think it's a fraud, I do think there's painfully little that will come of the animated series. If Yenny couldn't prove herself a mainstream success as a comic strip, how is she going to do that as a cartoon? What exactly will change enough to make people who aren't fetishists take notice and say, "Oh, yeah, I guess I'll sit here every week for fifteen to thirty minutes and watch a twenty-something latina get tickled," when they wouldn't even say, "Oh, yeah, I guess I'll sit here for thirty seconds everyday and read about a twenty-something latina getting tickled"?

If those who have enough expendable cash to do so are intent on donating, then great, but they should be prepared to see nothing substantial come of it. And if it does become a success, prepare for David Alvarez to evacuate the fetish scene faster than my bowels after eating at Chipotle.

Caveat emptor.
 
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To me, it is pretty obvious that Yenny is a fetish comic, even without the tickling. Because tickling is not the fetish in question: the fetish is for giant feet. There is indeed a niche audience from this, who will look at anything from the barefoot giantess of Fem Force to ... whatever else is out there, such as 30's cartoons of Little Red Riding Hood. So I think we have Rivers and Oman and a few others here who really like big bare feet.

Now, look carefully at the feet of Wilma Flinstone and Betty Rubble, two barefoot female icons that 99% of the planet has seen and accepts as standard and mainstream.

They are exactly the same size feet as you have in the present day in barefoot cartoon girls from "Enchanted" to "Tangled."

So Yenny will always be a fetish comic. Not a tickling fetish perhaps, but some variant of foot fetish. Hence the lack of funding, acceptance and success.
 
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