Yoda's Agenda??

[ShiningIce]

It was said in an earlier thread that even Yoda had his own agend. I havent read alot of the books so I'm curious as to what it was exactly.

 

[Dave2112]

It's not that he had a specific "agenda" in terms of a course of action. What I meant was, that as the head of the Jedi Council, Yoda's personal beliefs were going to have major pull. Where Yoda went, most of the Order followed. Perhaps there was a reason that he felt that Love had no place in a Jedi's traing or life, and as the Head, this is the way it was for many years.

What I meant was that even Yoda was not above having his personal beliefs affect the way he chose to teach.😎

 

[ShiningIce]

Ah now I undertsand. Are the emperor's personal guard sith warriors or just froce sensitive elite soldiers?

 

[Dave2112]

None that I know of (or remeber at the present time) were Sith. Some were Force-sensitive, but most of those became Emperor's Hands. Most were simply the best fighters and guards the Empire had to offer.

 

[strtbottomjim]

Yoda's REAL agenda is to corrupt the English of millions of young geeks 😀.

STORY: YODA THE 'LEE!

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"Ropes you say? Tie me you will?

FEET NOT YOU TICKLE!!! ALL THREE DICKS YOU WILL ALONE LEAVE!!! IF LAUGHING I WAS NOT, TOAST YOU WOULD BE!!! STOP YOU WILL, DROP AN X-WING ON YOUR SORRY ASS I WILL!!!"

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Oh well. At least he isn't Jar-Jar! Jesus, what was George smokin' when he approved that one? Best description I've heard: "Giant Rastafarian frog on LSD".

 

[MadKalnod]

Are the emperor's personal guard sith warriors or just froce sensitive elite soldiers?

Dave is correct. The Emperor's Royal Guardsmen (The chaps in the long crimson robes) were the best of the best among the Stormtrooper Corps. Royal Guardsmen even served among regular Stormtrooper units part of the time, when not assigned to to the Emperor's presence, in order to keep their skills honed. Their training procedure is glimpsed in the Crimson Empire miniseries from Dark Horse Comics, and while they do not appear to recieve any Force training, they are taught martial arts styles that may be of Sith origin.

Six years after his death in Return of the Jedi, the Emperor returned in a series of cloned bodies and certain documents indicate that he did begin to give some of his Royal Guardsmen Force training. Called Sovereign Protectors, they were taught rudimentary Force skills, notably the ability to resist pain and a "Spider-sense" type instinct for danger in combat. However, they came nowhere near the level of the average Sith Apprentice or Emperor's Hand. The is revealed in the Dark Empire Sourcebook from West End Games.

While it is not overtly stated, I suspect that the Emperor trained at least one of his Royal Guardsmen to be an Emperor's Hand, namely Carnor Jax. Jax is known to have aspired to the throne himself, and sabotaged the Emperor's clones in order to make them unstable, worsening Palpatine's madness, leading to his final death in the Dark Empire II and Empire's End miniseries. Jax ascended to the Imperial Throne following Palpatine's permanent demise, and displayed some Force abilities, notably telekinesis, that set him above the power level of the average Guardsman. Carnor Jax ruled the crumbling Empire for a few months before being slain by fellow ex-Guardsman Kir Kanos (a non-Force-sensitive, apparently), who sought to avenge his Master's murder. This occurs in the aforementioned Crimson Empire.

 

[Biggles of 266]

Yoda's REAL agenda is to corrupt the English of millions of young geeks .

damn funny and true as hell

 

[ShiningIce]

Ok, if Darth Vader was a Dark Jedi, then why was his title Dark Lord of The Sith??

 

[MadKalnod]

The title of Dark Lord of the Sith was earned by Vader after receiving instruction in ancient Sith techniques of Force-use as Apprentice to Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine, a Dark Lord himself.

The difference between Dark Jedi and Sith is that the Sith have a codified set of practices which must be learned, while fallen Jedi pretty much abandon the Jedi code, doing as they will rather than learning another. There is some overlap, of course, as former Jedi like Exar Kun and Vader study Sith methods after leaving the Jedi Order.

 

[Dave2112]

MadKalNod is right about Sith training. Also, as stated in my previous post, most Sith are trained from Day 1 to be followers of the Dark Side. Vader/Anakin was an exception to this as Palpatine's original apprentice, Darth Maul, was unexpectedly killed, forcing Palpatine to replace him.