Probably I should sleep on this before just, putting it out there, but it's something that's been digging at me for at least a couple weeks, so maybe I've slept on it enough.
I don't recall where I saw the comment - probably in one of the various tickle gathering Discords I'm in - but I recall seeing a comment recently saying, loosely paraphrased, that the way flirting and teasing happens in the tickling community would potentially be considered sexual harassment elsewhere. And that has stuck with me ever since I saw it.
It made me think about all of the interactions I've seen in various online tickling spaces over the years; forums, chat rooms, Discord servers, tumblr, Twitter, here, Reddit, all over. All the threads and conversations and posts and the like. And I couldn't shake how, no matter the medium and no matter the era, much of the conversation around our kink/fetish has had a flavor to it that I tend to feel very Uncomfortable with. Like I was a voyeur into a scene that I didn't know was going to happen, and didn't ask to see.
Benefit of the doubt, the people participating in it likely had an established relationship where this was okay, and/or some sort of consent arrangement about it, plus it's all Just Talk anyway, right? It's all just ~fantasies~, y'know? They always tease each other like that, it's just Fun! But it also feels so....reductive, and misaligned to how things actually (and should!) work face to face.
Seeing three or four lers all planning what to do with a lee who made an innocuous comment as the lee makes various sputtery or keysmash-type responses gives off the vibes of a pride of lions stalking a gazelle that got separated from its herd. Or - projecting more than a little bit here, probably - a group of bullies picking on someone who was just trying to exist quietly because they felt like it.
I don't know that I would consider any of these behaviors Problematic, honestly. Mainly because it IS only talk, the people involved are safe and responsible, and it's happening in spaces (excepting social media) that have been designated specifically for that kind of banter. But it still doesn't usually sit right with me, and I kinda hate that.
I hate that I'm missing out on what seems to be an important social aspect of my own fetish because of this discomfort. I hate the feeling that the real problem is my own insecurities about being unremarkable, uninteresting, easily passed over for someone who's more willing to be Bold in that way, and just not worth interacting with Online. I hate that my past trauma has made me so hyper vigilant about consent and obtaining it that I feel like if I do something without it, I'll be shunned and despised forever. I hate that my brain so easily conflates acceptable play with bullying.
I hate that other people are having fun, and I'm not. Or maybe more accurately I'm jealous that they're having fun THAT I'm not.
If you read this all the way to the end, kudos to you. Hopefully I didn't make myself look like a cranky jerk, though if that's your takeaway, I can't fault you for it.
I don't recall where I saw the comment - probably in one of the various tickle gathering Discords I'm in - but I recall seeing a comment recently saying, loosely paraphrased, that the way flirting and teasing happens in the tickling community would potentially be considered sexual harassment elsewhere. And that has stuck with me ever since I saw it.
It made me think about all of the interactions I've seen in various online tickling spaces over the years; forums, chat rooms, Discord servers, tumblr, Twitter, here, Reddit, all over. All the threads and conversations and posts and the like. And I couldn't shake how, no matter the medium and no matter the era, much of the conversation around our kink/fetish has had a flavor to it that I tend to feel very Uncomfortable with. Like I was a voyeur into a scene that I didn't know was going to happen, and didn't ask to see.
Benefit of the doubt, the people participating in it likely had an established relationship where this was okay, and/or some sort of consent arrangement about it, plus it's all Just Talk anyway, right? It's all just ~fantasies~, y'know? They always tease each other like that, it's just Fun! But it also feels so....reductive, and misaligned to how things actually (and should!) work face to face.
Seeing three or four lers all planning what to do with a lee who made an innocuous comment as the lee makes various sputtery or keysmash-type responses gives off the vibes of a pride of lions stalking a gazelle that got separated from its herd. Or - projecting more than a little bit here, probably - a group of bullies picking on someone who was just trying to exist quietly because they felt like it.
I don't know that I would consider any of these behaviors Problematic, honestly. Mainly because it IS only talk, the people involved are safe and responsible, and it's happening in spaces (excepting social media) that have been designated specifically for that kind of banter. But it still doesn't usually sit right with me, and I kinda hate that.
I hate that I'm missing out on what seems to be an important social aspect of my own fetish because of this discomfort. I hate the feeling that the real problem is my own insecurities about being unremarkable, uninteresting, easily passed over for someone who's more willing to be Bold in that way, and just not worth interacting with Online. I hate that my past trauma has made me so hyper vigilant about consent and obtaining it that I feel like if I do something without it, I'll be shunned and despised forever. I hate that my brain so easily conflates acceptable play with bullying.
I hate that other people are having fun, and I'm not. Or maybe more accurately I'm jealous that they're having fun THAT I'm not.
If you read this all the way to the end, kudos to you. Hopefully I didn't make myself look like a cranky jerk, though if that's your takeaway, I can't fault you for it.