On the flipside of producing, is modeling...
The other half of the game (or I should say, third - the other piece of the puzzle is the audience) is modeling. Producing has its risks of course; being outed to your family and friends, liability if someone gets hurt, being ripped off, and of course false claims. If you're going to venture into modeling its something you want to be extremely careful about doing. Vet the people you'll work with, other models and producers alike.
I hired one model in particular and burned the ticket, losing hundreds. And why? Because I was new and made the error of not looking at her social media tirades. Its well known shes unstable and I had multiple people tell me to not hire that one. So, I took the advice and didn't.
Shes since caught on why I wont hire her (word travels) and became insulted - you can imagine where it went from there. I'm not going to be bullied into hiring someone, neither should you as a model. Work with who you choose, do the material agreed upon (but understand you can always revoke consent, thats important). Also understand that you need to ask for a deposit. I know a lot of performers who do and for good reason. But also understand that if your travel is pre-paid, that IS the deposit. Asking for a deposit on top of pre paid travel is just silly and it looks a bit shady to be honest. I've only encountered that once and I turned her services down. And again, she became insulted. I'm not sure why. Understand you will be told no, both by producers and by models. You cant take it to heart. Its both their right and thats ok! No one owes you a reason why they wont hire you, just like no one owes a producer a reason why they won't take their gig either. Its ok! Plenty of fish, as they say.
Back to paragraph one. If you ARENT ok with the idea of being caught DONT DO IT. Sure, you may get away with never being outed but is it worth the risk? Think of it like an illegal activity; if youre okay being sent to prison for drug dealing have at it I suppose, but don't cry when you get busted and sent off to prison either. You know the risks you're taking. Same thought process here.
Expect a ton of DMs if youre successful with allllllll sorts of annoyances. You're best hitting the block button or simply deleting the message. Just like any negativity - use the 'One reply, bye!' approach. Works for me at least. But to filter the annoyances to some degree don't be SO hard to hire that you aren't getting work either. List an email if you arent going to check your DMs often. From the friends and associates I have in the industry that seems to be the most common answer for models.
So back to vetting. Get an array of people theyve worked with. Every producer and every model on the planet has had a negative interaction, its simply going to happen for one reason or another. You don't want to ask one solo opinion where the person hates you or had a negative interaction and go from there, nor do you want to ask one person who happens to be a friend and is going to vouch for them no matter what. Both approaches aren't smart. So reach out to multiple and you'll get a decent read. See attachment LOL
I know of one producer who got a glowing review from one girl I work with, yet another girl I work with says he stuck his fingers in her while bound. Thats incredibly unsettling. But is it true? Who knows but this brings us to a safety escort.
Yes. Always always always ask if an escort is okay. If it isnt - run. Theres no reason any producer should be telling you it isnt okay to have an escort present. Hell early on a girl brought her elderly mother. THAT was a tad awkward but it is what it is lol....it was fine. A bit weird but it was fine. I know of one MAJOR bdsm company who wont allow the escort in the room with the model, and they shoot some very severe scenes. From what I've heard, they don't allow it because jealous or 'helicopter' boyfriends have interfered with the shoot. So I kinda get it but it isn't a policy I would follow through with. It just looks really suspicious.
Safety escorts should be there through the 'briefing' and know what to expect. Know the safety signals, what to expect to happen to the person youre watching out for and such. If something goes off the rails then yes step in. Piss on the producer if theyre doing something you know isn't okay. I know of a very popular tickling model who did a bondage shoot and the guy had her locked in a stress position which was fine. But she was signaling she wanted out and the producer straight up ignored her while her safety escort did NOTHING. Like bro....why are you there?! For a long while she wouldn't shoot bondage scenes and I get it, you can't blame her.
Anyway don't be useless if youre a safety escort but don't interfere when it isnt called for either. Thats a surefire way to kill any future work for the model.
Know that when you sign any standard release, you're releasing ALL rights to the material you're shooting. It may be altered, edited over and over, titled multiple ways, uploaded anywhere such material is viewed, and may not even include your name at all. Some producers (Dominic Wolfe being one of the bigger names I can think of) will name the girls what he choses. I'm not sure why, I guess he picks names he thinks are 'hot girl' names?
If there is something within or something you want in particular, then you should make that known and either it will be agreed upon or it won't. The agreements you'll find anywhere all essentially say this, along with saying your ID will be provided and you consent to the material therein. It likely will say you're of sound mind and able to read/sign the agreement and state you aren't a minor (even though it asks for an ID).
It will also likely say that you agree to the laws of whatever state you're shooting in, and any discrepancy will be settled in the state and county therein. Makes sense. You aren't going to shoot with a producer in California and live in Michigan then try to bring the claim to your home state where the material wasn't created.
You cannot reverse this once it's signed. The property isn't yours, period. If you go on to become a high profile attorney or doctor in the future, it no longer matters how you feel about it, it simply isn't yours once you sign the dotted line.
Compensation. You aren't in this for free after all. I know yes, there are GWCs (guy with camera) who produce but its a ruse. Theyre producing because its a way for them to play with others, and thats where it gets really shady. If youre fine with that then so be it, but know thats whats happening. If you set a rate, set a rate. Because once you start dropping your rate word does get around. If any producer hears you'll shoot for 'x' and you quote them 'y', youre about to be in a weird situation. Its okay to hike your rate sure, but just know once you go low you're pricing yourself. On the flipside don't overprice yourself where no one hires you. Its your right, sure. But I for one and many others will not hire above a certain limit. The risk on return just isn't worth the gamble. You DO eventually get your money back in time if the material stays up, but some are much longer than others. I personally pay 125 hourly, where the average is around 100 but I think its creeping up with inflation the past four years. Reason I pay more is I always aim for return models and a good working relationship. This stuff can be hard, even if you're a model who is a lifestyler of a 'lee, and also your time is money.
Other forms of compensation. A trade shoot is never a bad idea if you're also going to try to produce. A lump pay is great of course, as its a shock to the wallet to make a nice chunk in just a few hours but the material is gold over time. As mentioned above, even if you shoot a 'meh' clip it'll eventually sell and be worth it in time. Or you can agree to a partial trade partial pay. If you do full trade you SHOULD pay half of the travel, as you're sharing content and you aren't a hire - youre a collaborator in that scenario. Partial trade/partial pay is nice because you do get both a payday and some content for the future. But in the end its whatever you prefer and can come to an agreement to.
Don't let anyone pressure you into anything. This isn't unusual once a shoot starts. Sure, its okay for the set to flow and change; I'm seat of the pants with almost everything in life, always have been. But if you introduce an idea and it gets rejected its okay! Just expect new ideas may occur as the shoot goes on, and they may try something new. If you say no and they keep shoving it past where you've said you don't want to do it, then I'd say just cut the shoot short and roll on. I'm often asked for wardrobe and I'll tell them I only ask for makeup and nails. I recommend they wear something to keep them cool, as my bondage covers a lot and gets pretty warm. I'm quick to add I'm certainly not asking for anyone to get naked, but whatever keeps you cool. Worst case (and its happened) I'll put an ice pack in there for them as it does get really hot, especially laughing and squirming around.
Keep it pro. Starting to introduce personal details into the 'real world' outside of set is completely unprofessional and yes, we all see it. People may not voice it to you but you'll likely end up with a bad name and people aren't going to approach you to hire you. If its worth it to you then go for it, but know as far as this job goes, you're likely losing work without knowing it. After all, if you behave negatively toward one the rest of us are watching and know it could very well happen to them also. I know of one fairly recently who did this very thing, and I received a message from another producer saying, 'See? Thats why I didn't fuck with her'.
Sigh. yeah.
Last thing: still talking safety, let your friends know where you're shooting with. Get their name(s), when you'll be done, write their tag. number down. Have their cell number. everything. Check in with a friend or family member between each scene. Tell them if you aren't heard from by such-and-such time to call police. Can't ever be too careful. No amount of money is worth your safety.
I hired one model in particular and burned the ticket, losing hundreds. And why? Because I was new and made the error of not looking at her social media tirades. Its well known shes unstable and I had multiple people tell me to not hire that one. So, I took the advice and didn't.
Shes since caught on why I wont hire her (word travels) and became insulted - you can imagine where it went from there. I'm not going to be bullied into hiring someone, neither should you as a model. Work with who you choose, do the material agreed upon (but understand you can always revoke consent, thats important). Also understand that you need to ask for a deposit. I know a lot of performers who do and for good reason. But also understand that if your travel is pre-paid, that IS the deposit. Asking for a deposit on top of pre paid travel is just silly and it looks a bit shady to be honest. I've only encountered that once and I turned her services down. And again, she became insulted. I'm not sure why. Understand you will be told no, both by producers and by models. You cant take it to heart. Its both their right and thats ok! No one owes you a reason why they wont hire you, just like no one owes a producer a reason why they won't take their gig either. Its ok! Plenty of fish, as they say.
Back to paragraph one. If you ARENT ok with the idea of being caught DONT DO IT. Sure, you may get away with never being outed but is it worth the risk? Think of it like an illegal activity; if youre okay being sent to prison for drug dealing have at it I suppose, but don't cry when you get busted and sent off to prison either. You know the risks you're taking. Same thought process here.
Expect a ton of DMs if youre successful with allllllll sorts of annoyances. You're best hitting the block button or simply deleting the message. Just like any negativity - use the 'One reply, bye!' approach. Works for me at least. But to filter the annoyances to some degree don't be SO hard to hire that you aren't getting work either. List an email if you arent going to check your DMs often. From the friends and associates I have in the industry that seems to be the most common answer for models.
So back to vetting. Get an array of people theyve worked with. Every producer and every model on the planet has had a negative interaction, its simply going to happen for one reason or another. You don't want to ask one solo opinion where the person hates you or had a negative interaction and go from there, nor do you want to ask one person who happens to be a friend and is going to vouch for them no matter what. Both approaches aren't smart. So reach out to multiple and you'll get a decent read. See attachment LOL
I know of one producer who got a glowing review from one girl I work with, yet another girl I work with says he stuck his fingers in her while bound. Thats incredibly unsettling. But is it true? Who knows but this brings us to a safety escort.
Yes. Always always always ask if an escort is okay. If it isnt - run. Theres no reason any producer should be telling you it isnt okay to have an escort present. Hell early on a girl brought her elderly mother. THAT was a tad awkward but it is what it is lol....it was fine. A bit weird but it was fine. I know of one MAJOR bdsm company who wont allow the escort in the room with the model, and they shoot some very severe scenes. From what I've heard, they don't allow it because jealous or 'helicopter' boyfriends have interfered with the shoot. So I kinda get it but it isn't a policy I would follow through with. It just looks really suspicious.
Safety escorts should be there through the 'briefing' and know what to expect. Know the safety signals, what to expect to happen to the person youre watching out for and such. If something goes off the rails then yes step in. Piss on the producer if theyre doing something you know isn't okay. I know of a very popular tickling model who did a bondage shoot and the guy had her locked in a stress position which was fine. But she was signaling she wanted out and the producer straight up ignored her while her safety escort did NOTHING. Like bro....why are you there?! For a long while she wouldn't shoot bondage scenes and I get it, you can't blame her.
Anyway don't be useless if youre a safety escort but don't interfere when it isnt called for either. Thats a surefire way to kill any future work for the model.
Know that when you sign any standard release, you're releasing ALL rights to the material you're shooting. It may be altered, edited over and over, titled multiple ways, uploaded anywhere such material is viewed, and may not even include your name at all. Some producers (Dominic Wolfe being one of the bigger names I can think of) will name the girls what he choses. I'm not sure why, I guess he picks names he thinks are 'hot girl' names?
If there is something within or something you want in particular, then you should make that known and either it will be agreed upon or it won't. The agreements you'll find anywhere all essentially say this, along with saying your ID will be provided and you consent to the material therein. It likely will say you're of sound mind and able to read/sign the agreement and state you aren't a minor (even though it asks for an ID).
It will also likely say that you agree to the laws of whatever state you're shooting in, and any discrepancy will be settled in the state and county therein. Makes sense. You aren't going to shoot with a producer in California and live in Michigan then try to bring the claim to your home state where the material wasn't created.
You cannot reverse this once it's signed. The property isn't yours, period. If you go on to become a high profile attorney or doctor in the future, it no longer matters how you feel about it, it simply isn't yours once you sign the dotted line.
Compensation. You aren't in this for free after all. I know yes, there are GWCs (guy with camera) who produce but its a ruse. Theyre producing because its a way for them to play with others, and thats where it gets really shady. If youre fine with that then so be it, but know thats whats happening. If you set a rate, set a rate. Because once you start dropping your rate word does get around. If any producer hears you'll shoot for 'x' and you quote them 'y', youre about to be in a weird situation. Its okay to hike your rate sure, but just know once you go low you're pricing yourself. On the flipside don't overprice yourself where no one hires you. Its your right, sure. But I for one and many others will not hire above a certain limit. The risk on return just isn't worth the gamble. You DO eventually get your money back in time if the material stays up, but some are much longer than others. I personally pay 125 hourly, where the average is around 100 but I think its creeping up with inflation the past four years. Reason I pay more is I always aim for return models and a good working relationship. This stuff can be hard, even if you're a model who is a lifestyler of a 'lee, and also your time is money.
Other forms of compensation. A trade shoot is never a bad idea if you're also going to try to produce. A lump pay is great of course, as its a shock to the wallet to make a nice chunk in just a few hours but the material is gold over time. As mentioned above, even if you shoot a 'meh' clip it'll eventually sell and be worth it in time. Or you can agree to a partial trade partial pay. If you do full trade you SHOULD pay half of the travel, as you're sharing content and you aren't a hire - youre a collaborator in that scenario. Partial trade/partial pay is nice because you do get both a payday and some content for the future. But in the end its whatever you prefer and can come to an agreement to.
Don't let anyone pressure you into anything. This isn't unusual once a shoot starts. Sure, its okay for the set to flow and change; I'm seat of the pants with almost everything in life, always have been. But if you introduce an idea and it gets rejected its okay! Just expect new ideas may occur as the shoot goes on, and they may try something new. If you say no and they keep shoving it past where you've said you don't want to do it, then I'd say just cut the shoot short and roll on. I'm often asked for wardrobe and I'll tell them I only ask for makeup and nails. I recommend they wear something to keep them cool, as my bondage covers a lot and gets pretty warm. I'm quick to add I'm certainly not asking for anyone to get naked, but whatever keeps you cool. Worst case (and its happened) I'll put an ice pack in there for them as it does get really hot, especially laughing and squirming around.
Keep it pro. Starting to introduce personal details into the 'real world' outside of set is completely unprofessional and yes, we all see it. People may not voice it to you but you'll likely end up with a bad name and people aren't going to approach you to hire you. If its worth it to you then go for it, but know as far as this job goes, you're likely losing work without knowing it. After all, if you behave negatively toward one the rest of us are watching and know it could very well happen to them also. I know of one fairly recently who did this very thing, and I received a message from another producer saying, 'See? Thats why I didn't fuck with her'.
Sigh. yeah.
Last thing: still talking safety, let your friends know where you're shooting with. Get their name(s), when you'll be done, write their tag. number down. Have their cell number. everything. Check in with a friend or family member between each scene. Tell them if you aren't heard from by such-and-such time to call police. Can't ever be too careful. No amount of money is worth your safety.
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