Busted for Copyright Infringement

[laughinggaszone]

It is, but sooner or later the community needs to adapt rather than just continuing to demonize those who frequent tube sites, as if a large majority of this board isn't guilty of the same thing. I myself used to sink lots of money into C4S, but it no longer makes sense to frequently buy clips at $10-$15 a pop, when it'll be elsewhere for free in a few days or a week. You can flame me for that, but I'm just being honest, and I'm far from the only one.

Not to say that producers shouldn't keep going after those distributing material illegally. But it's a game of whack-a-mole that can never be fully won, and eventually we have to look to other industries (movies, music, etc) to see how they curbed piracy. The formula there has always been the same: make content accessible and cheap, and people will pay for it. Which is why subscription services like Spotify, Apple Music, Netflix, Hulu, Prime, etc are all thriving.

Would the same thing not work in our community? I'm not talking about individual membership sites, which still miss the mark. They're too pricey to buy more than one or two subs, and people can still download your videos and re-upload them elsewhere. But what about a C4S-style site that for ~$15 a month, I can access and stream clips from any stores? If a few of the top producers worked together on an initiative like that, I think you'd see a lot of subscribers...and without being able to download the MP4s, a lot less piracy.

I know that's a lot easier said than done, but it's not 2007 anymore, and I don't think the C4S model works today. Very few people are willing to drop $35 for half an hour of content when they can go to Pornhub and find the same videos for free. We can "tssk tssk" at that all we want, but if we really want to stop it, we have to create incentive for buying clips again.

First of all, you're contradicting yourself. You say that we need to stop demonizing those who use tube sites and then say we should still go after them. You can't have it both ways. We can't condone and condemn. Second, we've had this discussion before. There are flat pay streaming sites. Both for individual producers and large group sites. You know what, they get pirated as well. Even though they are cheap in comparison to the price of paying for downloading a full clip. Which brings us to the final point. It's an apples and oranges comparison to look at Hollywood or the music industry when it comes to tickle porn. We area niche industry with a very small pool of customers. The prices charged are necessary to pay for the production of the clips and hopefully make a modest profit. There is no tickle fetish producer that is rolling in money. We are all basically a cottage industry and you either support your local tickle producer or you wave goodbye. There will be no "Big Tickle" coming in and taking our place.

 

[Klaxxon]

I'm curious. Okay, I will view free clips on various web sites including porn hub, but I've never uploaded any material, copyrighted or otherwise. I'm just wondering if some of the anti-piracy activists in this thread regard the simply viewing of these illegally posted videos as 'pirating?'

For what it's worth, I don't record the videos from these sites. If I want a video file to keep for myself, I will buy it from C4S or directly from the producer.

 

[Fat Bastard]

I dubbed "Dark Side of the Moon" & "Hotel California" from a friend's LP on to cassette tapes back in the 70's.

Just had to get that off my chest ...

 

[laughinggaszone]

I'm curious. Okay, I will view free clips on various web sites including porn hub, but I've never uploaded any material, copyrighted or otherwise. I'm just wondering if some of the anti-piracy activists in this thread regard the simply viewing of these illegally posted videos as 'pirating?'

For what it's worth, I don't record the videos from these sites. If I want a video file to keep for myself, I will buy it from C4S or directly from the producer.

Yeah, you're pirating. You're watching stuff for free, without the consent of the creator of the content who sells access to it. It's a spectrum with up-loaders on one end and down-loaders on the other. The ratio between those who upload and those who download is wide, but if people didn't succumb to the temptation then the problem wouldn't exist or wouldn't be more than a mild annoyance. With sharing sites like Pornhub, it blurs the line between people who upload and download as most people create playlists and collections that they share, often to gain access to other people's playlists. They aren't even the one that uploaded the original pirated file, which pisses off some pirates who feel their "hard work" pirating is being stolen by another pirate. It's ironic. The music and movie industry used to go after the down-loaders with a vengeance, but they don't do that quite as much. There are just to god damn many people doing it.

 

[Tenebrae]

Not true. They could not have committed copy right infringement but still be curious. If they did commit copy right infringement they could not have a fear because they used a pre-paid credit card. Even if caught they could reasonably claim someone hacked their computer. Even top level government employees have had their computers hacked.

Agreed. I am curious about a lot of stuff, but that does not mean I have a vested interest in them. I recently read up on Cartel violence in America and Mexico, does not mean I am about to start my own international drug business and carving people's faces off for fun. I am also genuinely interested in the question of how to trace people, and I am no pirate. If a tech-savvy person wants to answer that question, I'll read his/her reply with great interest.

What SharonP did on post #47 was hilarious though

 

[sniper]

Laughing at the suggestion i've been up to no good and am scared of being caught out. So wrong, I've always paid for my clips and don't see why i should share them online for freeloaders , but i am curious about the tech because it's not something i've heard of before.

I bet there are a lot of people reading this thread absolutely pooping themselves now though and deleting accounts left right and centre. If youtube has recognition tech for sound-tracks, i wonder how long till the likes of Pornhub have it for pirate clips?

 

[Klaxxon]

I dubbed "Dark Side of the Moon" & "Hotel California" from a friend's LP on to cassette tapes back in the 70's.

Just had to get that off my chest ...

LMAO

Yeah, you're pirating. You're watching stuff for free, without the consent of the creator of the content who sells access to it.

Yeah, I expected as much. And I suppose if I lend my laptop computer to my buddy and he watches those same videos on it, that too would make me guilty. As an enabler? You know, this explains a lot of things I've been going through. I've found myself wearing a lot of silk shirts and scarves lately. Eye patches look very fashionable to me. I can't seem to get a sentence out without finishing it with "Arrr!"

 

[laughinggaszone]

LMAO
And I suppose if I lend my laptop computer to my buddy and he watches those same videos on it

Not in my book. Lending is not the same thing as making a copy (which is what most people would do). Who "lends" a digital copy of something
to someone? They just make a copy. They keep their original and someone else gets an exact copy of equal quality. That's pirating. Arrr.