Clip Pet Peeves

[MrTicklefeet]

You don’t understand the point of the post. Obviously, if I knew BEFORE I bought the clip that the lee would slip out of the bondage and then put her hand back in, I wouldn’t have bought the clip. That doesn’t mean I should never buy a clip. Instead, it makes it legitimate to post the comment, for producers to read, that at least one customer would prefer not to see that. Similarly, when marcusb is annoyed to see scene cuts every 15 seconds, he would not have purchased the clip had he known that would happen. There is nothing wrong with him posting that annoyance. It’s tickling discussion -- the point of this forum.

I’ve noticed that you, “mrticklefeet,” have developed a habit of responding to posts by criticizing the post. I’ve seen you do that recently in response to others’ posts.

To take your words and alter them slightly, "How about, if the posts bother you so much, don’t respond to them."

You know Chicago, you have a point there. Years ago, this discussions was about sharing experiences, asking for advice and what not while as of late, there seems to be more and more threads devoted to complaining about the quality of the video clips. This at a time when we have way more people producing tickling clips than ever before. Yes, I agree, folks are using brushes way too much, but then there's also the complaint about the ler talking all the way trough the clip, which to be honest, I haven't seen for like almost a decade now. There was also recently the guy who had been spending over $350 a month on tickle porn and not enjoying any of it, which sounded more like burnout fatigue.

True, I don't buy clips at the pace that some people on here seem to do. I watch the samples, and if something gets my interest I'll buy it. I have to really be inspired. Also true is I haven't bought a clip in a while now, but I have a nice stock pile from over the years I can always turn to on a rainy night. Having had my own real experiences in the last hand full of years also takes the steam out a bit, and maybe I don't feel like I have to go to clips as strongly as I had use to when I first discovered this place. By and large, I haven't been disappointed in my selections.

Comfort Eagle kind of hit on something there. Missing the old clips that were just simple straight up tickling. Maybe things have changed, I dunno. I remember one place that use to have some decent clips started into going straight for the armpits. The entire near nude body would be stretched out, wide open and vulnerable for exploration, and they'd just skip all that and go straight for the pits while I'd be wondering what the rest of the canvas had to offer. (I love upper body tickling, but not just the pits.)

Just all the complaining gets tiring. I see a sample that looks questionable, I just skip it. So yes, I'll take your advice and just stay out of these kind of threads.

 

[ChicagoDavid]

The comments producers made about the need for scene cuts make sense. But I, for one, would enjoy less cutting of the “model needs a break” variety. I’d be happy to have a minute or two showing that.

And in honor of MrTickleFeet, I will now start another thread going in the other direction from this one.

 

[Edgar]

biggest pet peeve; terrible acting with a bad storyline, its not a movie, its a tickle clip

Oh no. This is about me isn't it.

Edgar

 

[ChicagoDavid]

Oh no. This is about me isn't it.

Edgar

I say it isn’t about you. As long as the clip description says that there is a story line, it’s all good. The buyer knows what s/he is buying.

 

[Edgar]

It's not me then! Yay!

Edgar

 

[NG02]

Wow alot of good points have been made. And it was even cool to see some producers chimming in to clearify a few things. I would have to agree with some things while having a few of my own.

-My number one pet peeve would have to be when the discriptuon of a clip says the person is tickled all over, but out of an 8-10 min clip there was like 2 mins or less of UB and the rest was Feet. Ok first let me expalin, I know the main sought after bodypart associated with our fetish is feet(which is why I love the producers who make clips highlighting specific areas) but come on. As a guy who likes to tickle every part of the body(but is more into UB tickling), even I wont stay at the UB if theres a great reaction to be gotten from the feet(I mean lets face it alot of ppl are more foot ticklish than in other place). This actually brings me to another point....when its clear the that armpits, ribs, neck, stomach, or even the inner thigh is way more ticklish yet the Ler well be hellbent and focused on the feet. That one really get to me.

-Another one is when you see a clip where the model is wearing a sexy outfit thats got lots of skin showing for numorous targets for tickling, yet the Ler tickles her feet the entire time. And to make matters worse im a resiliant guy so I serach that company for a possible all over tickling version of that clip and it turns out there isnt one. I mean it makes not sense at all...I have this beautiful woman infront of me wearing next to nothing so I can seen her awesome body yet the only thing in my visual is just her feet. She might aswell be wearing winter clothes with no shoes on right?

-My last one is more of a minor thing that borderlines on somwhat funny. When the Ler(males) is either laughing more than the lee or talking way to much. I love banter in clips(im actually a shit talker myself), but somtimes the whole baby-talking a lee can get quite annoying when your doing it for a whole clip. The good thing about this one is it doesnt happen in retrospect asmuch as the others.

 

[Edgar]

I'm also an upper body fan, and make it a point of honour to have the women in at least underwear, though my preference is topless. Knickers stay on, because then it always inevitably veers into basically convention porn/forced orgasm territory.

My biggest peeve would be so obvious; I hate models who are clearly not ticklish. I know what a body looks like under duress and one that is not.

Edgar

 

[whatev]

Thanks for all the clarifications from the producers!

 

[Aboundtime]

Perhaps this is a resurrected post, but the truth of the matter is a lot of tickle producers aren't even into tickling. The only reason why they come into the business is because it makes them more money. Of course, I'm not talking about any of the producers at TMF but the other ones from C4S. I know when I work with my models, I ask them where they are more ticklish at and then I go from there.

The reason why we use the brush is because eventually the fingers on the selected area for a prolong time tends to be numb the tickling sensation. So the brush brings out more laughter. One pet peeve of mine is feather tickling. As much as I would like to believe that the feather does a lot for tickling, 95% of people fake the laughing. I'd rather use my fingers or a brush rather than use something that doesn't have a genuine reaction.

I'll try keep in mind all the pet peeves that you all listed for my future clips. (My store will be opening soon).

 

[Raytheon]

I think my biggest is the fact that we use models. Really pisses me off we use people use their body to take advantage of men. **In the uk** The majority are a nasty section of society who make people who aren't 'model quality' or cant date 'model quality' feel like shit. The odd thing is modeling is a hidden side world of the female society. A really surprising amount of girls from college age -18- upwards get involved with it, almost 4 in every 10 girls. At college in our class alone we had 3 girls who had posed for a magazine or a website. My flat mate was quite a big hit in the states from here in the uk. She used to get paid £200 twice a month to get filmed having sex with body builders and rugby players - She loved it, it was her "phaww time". She got a free holiday to adult expo every year out of it too. What really grated and put me off the whole model thing was, knowing what i enjoyed, she went and did a tickling shoot. It crossed the line for me and i found it insulting and was jealous too. She was so flippant with it and even left a few pics on the fridge door.

I suppose you sat there thinking well don't bash cause your a jealous prick and id agree with you but its just hugely ironic people who don't give a blink about the fetish get to experience what most of us here will spend a life time dreaming about. Its inwardly incompetent.
makes me lol but thats just my two sense and everyone will bash me but hey, haters gunna hate.

 

[Aboundtime]

I think my biggest is the fact that we use models. Really pisses me off we use people use their body to take advantage of men. **In the uk** The majority are a nasty section of society who make people who aren't 'model quality' or cant date 'model quality' feel like shit. The odd thing is modeling is a hidden side world of the female society. A really surprising amount of girls from college age -18- upwards get involved with it, almost 4 in every 10 girls. At college in our class alone we had 3 girls who had posed for a magazine or a website. My flat mate was quite a big hit in the states from here in the uk. She used to get paid £200 twice a month to get filmed having sex with body builders and rugby players - She loved it, it was her "phaww time". She got a free holiday to adult expo every year out of it too. What really grated and put me off the whole model thing was, knowing what i enjoyed, she went and did a tickling shoot. It crossed the line for me and i found it insulting and was jealous too. She was so flippant with it and even left a few pics on the fridge door.

I suppose you sat there thinking well don't bash cause your a jealous prick and id agree with you but its just hugely ironic people who don't give a blink about the fetish get to experience what most of us here will spend a life time dreaming about. Its inwardly incompetent.
makes me lol but thats just my two sense and everyone will bash me but hey, haters gunna hate.

I'm not entirely sure what your trying to get at here. However, from my understanding of what you're trying to say, anyone who poses for photo's and videos is considered a model. All the models that I work with are nice people, however, it's not like we're best friends and she allows me to film her for free because she likes me. They get paid to do what they do and at that point it's a business. I actually thought it was really cool when one of my friends did a tickle shoot.

 

[Raytheon]

Not really sure what im saying either. Just how its ironic that a handful of models, most of whom don't have a tickling fetish, get to experience this fetish daily how most of us will never get too in our lifetimes purely because they are sexy and women. Thats my pet peeve of clips

 

[turtleboy]

Not really sure what im saying either. Just how its ironic that a handful of models, most of whom don't have a tickling fetish, get to experience this fetish daily how most of us will never get too in our lifetimes purely because they are sexy and women. Thats my pet peeve of clips

Well they do it because it's a job and because some people like seeing beautiful, sexy women getting tickled. Some of the models find it torturous, and in my experience many of them learn that being tickled is actually fun, though completely exhausting. That aside, if attractive models weren't appearing in clips would that make any difference to how often you get to experience it in your own life?

I don't understand why you believe the majority of models are 'a nasty section of society...' I've met a few who are less than pleasant, but I also know lots of models who are genuinely nice people, friendly and fun to be around. By the same token, I've also met a lot of people that aren't models, but are total shits...that's just life I guess.

 

[Aboundtime]

Well they do it because it's a job and because some people like seeing beautiful, sexy women getting tickled. Some of the models find it torturous, and in my experience many of them learn that being tickled is actually fun, though completely exhausting. That aside, if attractive models weren't appearing in clips would that make any difference to how often you get to experience it in your own life?

I don't understand why you believe the majority of models are 'a nasty section of society...' I've met a few who are less than pleasant, but I also know lots of models who are genuinely nice people, friendly and fun to be around. By the same token, I've also met a lot of people that aren't models, but are total shits...that's just life I guess.

Could have said it better myself UK. You're fortunate enough to work with English women. I think they're so hot! I need to make a trip out there one day.

 

[Raytheon]

Like i said, haters gunna hate, We've all had different experiences and mine have all been pretty negative. Bitchy, stuck up, dismissive and self centered come to mind. Im sure there are some nice models out there but i personally have yet to meet one that will give more time of day other than to give me a middle finger or tell me to stop talking to them.

 

[JoePTickle]

To flip the thread on its head just a bit, I'd point out that one "bonus" aspect which elevates a clip to a higher level for me is when there is camera action. Rather than a still camera the whole time, it moves in for close-ups of the tickling action, and maybe occasionally of the lee or ler's face. It makes you almost feel like you're a ler yourself, beyond just a spectator...

Tickle Abuse, Tickle Central, and Czech Tickling are all aces in this respect. And I keep hoping that JW from Tickled Guy will take that step too (though since he's already champ in a niche market, not necessary).

 

[The Last Laugh]

Like i said, haters gunna hate, We've all had different experiences and mine have all been pretty negative. Bitchy, stuck up, dismissive and self centered come to mind. Im sure there are some nice models out there but i personally have yet to meet one that will give more time of day other than to give me a middle finger or tell me to stop talking to them.

Sorry you've had bad experiences, but please don't make generalizations based on them. It's kind of insulting to the models, who for the most part are perfectly fine. Ok, granted, not always very reliable (all part of the game, I'm afraid), but nowhere near as nasty as you're suggesting. I can't help but wonder how/where you found all those awful models you're referring to.

Quite frankly, if most models were as unpleasant as you say, I would have stopped working with them years ago, possibly very soon after starting my little business. Yet I've been doing this for the last 10 years. Why on earth would I still be hanging on, accepting to be treated like crap all the time, if most of the models were so horrible?

 

[Raytheon]

Dude you keep jumping on my replies, have i done something to wrong you in the past? its just my personal response to the question ...

 

[The Last Laugh]

Dude you keep jumping on my replies, have i done something to wrong you in the past? its just my personal response to the question ...

I don't think I was jumping on your reply (or did anything cock-related, as you originally wrote). If I disagree with an opinion, I feel I'm free to offer mine. I can't help it if you just happened to post several messages that I disagreed with recently.

 

[Raytheon]

Yeah fair play.
lol thought id take the cock comment off, you got the point already

 

[tcklft]

Clip pet peeves:

Fake laughter
Screaming
Brushes
Lickling
Feathers
Fast cuts
Poor videography (e.g., the image is out of focus, the white balance is off, the hand-held work shakes a lot, the audio's too quiet or too loud)
The cameraman getting his fingers in the action
Dead space that isn't edited out

 

[ticklish tommy]

While I do understand your annoyance with scene cuts, I doubt customers would be thrilled if a typical clip lasting 5 to 10 minutes included a portion in which all you see is the model getting her breath back for 2-3 minutes or even more. As a customer I would much prefer if that were edited out so that the clip can focus on actual tickling. I mean, seriously, are you really interested in seeing the ticklee taking a break?

Besides, there are tons of reasons for making cuts. It's not just to give a model breaks. A few possible reasons, at the top of my head (most of these having actually happened to me):

-There's a significant change in the setup, for instance the ticklee's toes get tied back, which is a really long and boring process not worth including in the final clip
-One of the models called another model by her real name by accident
-A model hurt herself or had a nasty coughing fit
-The producer had trouble communicating instructions to the tickler, who could only stare at him with a look of incomprehension
-The bondage wasn't optimal and the ticklee managed to free her wrist without intending to
-The phone rang
-The neighbors or the cops interrupted the scene
-The tickler tried a new technique or tool that didn't work, resulting in a period of poor tickling action
-Something so funny happened that the models simply couldn't stop laughing for a while, without any actual tickling going on
-The ticklee entered a phase of screaming or some other really grating verbal reaction
-The tickler took a painfully long time removing the ticklee's footwear, too long to keep in the final clip, but the producer decided to use a bit of pre-removal footage anyway
-The cameraman attempted to move the camcorder for a different angle, but it turned out to be an awkward process that looked and sounded really bad
-The cameraman accidentally bumped hard into the tripod, causing a really annoying noise
-The camcorder was running on a battery and the battery ran out of juice
-A lightbulb died, causing a radical change in lighting conditions
-The cameraman left the camera alone for a while, only to find out that it dipped forward while he was gone
-A model had a "wardrobe malfunction"

And so many other possibilities. In many cases cuts are made because of accidents or mistakes. You might not mind to see some of the blunders, but others might get impatient with them. Also, most of the time only the producer (and possibly the models) are aware of what happened, and the producer may have a really good reason for editing out some parts. Cuts might be annoying sometimes, but believe me, they're often better than showing the whole thing.

That being said, I do agree that producers should be careful not to do too many cuts, otherwise a clip can become almost unwatchable.



I'm afraid we can't all afford to own and operate two or more cameras. I certainly can't.

I hear what ur saying pretty much most of this stuff. All I can say as a veiwer is I think it'd be fun to include JUST A LITTLE of the breath breaks and binding of the toes. Obviously you don't want to leave in the whole thing if it's too boring, but if anything funny or sexy was said during the breaks, that might be entertaining, or maybe even just a small portion of bind ing the toes cause I find that the anticipation of being tickled/bound (for me at least) is one of the sexiest aspects.

..... And what's that about the cops? LOL

 

[Phineas]

I think my biggest is the fact that we use models. Really pisses me off we use people use their body to take advantage of men. **In the uk** The majority are a nasty section of society who make people who aren't 'model quality' or cant date 'model quality' feel like shit. The odd thing is modeling is a hidden side world of the female society. A really surprising amount of girls from college age -18- upwards get involved with it, almost 4 in every 10 girls. At college in our class alone we had 3 girls who had posed for a magazine or a website. My flat mate was quite a big hit in the states from here in the uk. She used to get paid £200 twice a month to get filmed having sex with body builders and rugby players - She loved it, it was her "phaww time". She got a free holiday to adult expo every year out of it too. What really grated and put me off the whole model thing was, knowing what i enjoyed, she went and did a tickling shoot. It crossed the line for me and i found it insulting and was jealous too. She was so flippant with it and even left a few pics on the fridge door.

I suppose you sat there thinking well don't bash cause your a jealous prick and id agree with you but its just hugely ironic people who don't give a blink about the fetish get to experience what most of us here will spend a life time dreaming about. Its inwardly incompetent.
makes me lol but thats just my two sense and everyone will bash me but hey, haters gunna hate.

If it makes you feel any better, I kinda-sorta agree with you.

I utterly hate the fact that it often seems like the vast majority of the women who participate in this community (in terms of producing content) are looking to make a buck off of it, and wouldn't otherwise touch us with a ten-foot pole unless someone was waving a paycheck under their nose. While I don't find models bitchy and annoying like you do, I do get the feeling that lot of them are faking enthusiasm for the sake of a callback... and given how hard it is to socialize with people in this community to begin with, the fact that a lot of them are only here for the Almighty Dollar sets a really bad tone all around.

And it doesn't help that so many of the community is so easily manipulated, either; but I suppose when the only time you get to talk to a pretty girl about tickling is when she's trying to sell you something, you ignore the obviously manipulative aspect of it simply to indulge.

 

[sclubtickle]

If it makes you feel any better, I kinda-sorta agree with you.

I utterly hate the fact that it often seems like the vast majority of the women who participate in this community (in terms of producing content) are looking to make a buck off of it, and wouldn't otherwise touch us with a ten-foot pole unless someone was waving a paycheck under their nose. While I don't find models bitchy and annoying like you do, I do get the feeling that lot of them are faking enthusiasm for the sake of a callback... and given how hard it is to socialize with people in this community to begin with, the fact that a lot of them are only here for the Almighty Dollar sets a really bad tone all around.

And it doesn't help that so many of the community is so easily manipulated, either; but I suppose when the only time you get to talk to a pretty girl about tickling is when she's trying to sell you something, you ignore the obviously manipulative aspect of it simply to indulge.

I see nothing wrong with ticklish models being tickled as part of a paid shoot. I couldn't give a hoot if they are into it or not. It is their ticklishness that matters. The fact that most models happen to be attractive is just a bonus. It wouldn't enhance my experience if I knew the model was a genuine tickling enthusiast.

 

[tcklft]

I see nothing wrong with ticklish models being tickled as part of a paid shoot. I couldn't give a hoot if they are into it or not. It is their ticklishness that matters. The fact that most models happen to be attractive is just a bonus. It wouldn't enhance my experience if I knew the model was a genuine tickling enthusiast.

+1

I couldn't care less why the models do what they do, just that they do it well.