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Dealing with a jealous partner & TMF interaction...

CuteJill143

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My boyfriend is so beyond jealous and wants the tickling to be something special between him and I only; which I don't mind at all because has been great. He is not against tickling and has never judged me for having a fetish, but he does not like that I am on the TMF. He does not like that I have been to gatherings in the past. I am not on TMF to find another guy or to find a play partner because him and I play and its great. I am happy with him but he is jealous and I am not even allowed to casually mention the forum or any experiences I have had or he gets upset. He wants me to completely stop any of my forum interaction. I want to stay interacting on TMF to be part of discussions, talk about experiences and give advice to the new comers on the forum. For a while I had changed my privacy settings to not allow any private messaging from anyone and even mentioned that I am taken in my profile and won't engage in casual play. I figured that was allowing me to still interact on this site while still being fair to him. I tried to explain to him that even though he enjoys the tickle play, there are still some things about having the fetish your whole life that he could never understand, which is why I need the interaction with others on TMF.

But I still feel guilty for posting and interacting on here as I am typing =(
 
My 2 cents is he sounds like a control freak. I can understand not exactly farting rainbows about you being on here, but "not being allowed" to bring it up in casual conversation seems a bit extreme. I just recently became more active on the forum, and I get what you're saying. I've been all about feet and tickling as far back as I can remember. I didn't tell anyone a thing about it until I was 17. I'm glad to have found a place where my pleasures are not only accepted, but embraced. It's a good feeling to have this group of like-minded people in your corner. He doesn't need to like it, but he should respect it.
 
Hey Jill. I feel like you should consider what this might mean in the future. If he's like this about the forum, he could also, in the future, expect you to stop seeing guy friends or even try to monopolize your time. This is not a healthy thing in a relationship. My advice to you would be to communicate to him just what this place means to you, and if you feel strongly enough about it, lay your foot down on the subject. If he's not willing to trust you with this site, your relationship is in for some very hurtful and difficult times.
 
My 2 cents is he sounds like a control freak. I can understand not exactly farting rainbows about you being on here, but "not being allowed" to bring it up in casual conversation seems a bit extreme. I just recently became more active on the forum, and I get what you're saying. I've been all about feet and tickling as far back as I can remember. I didn't tell anyone a thing about it until I was 17. I'm glad to have found a place where my pleasures are not only accepted, but embraced. It's a good feeling to have this group of like-minded people in your corner. He doesn't need to like it, but he should respect it.

I'd totally agree with this. Absolutely right, in my opinion.
 
He has trust issues because of women from his past who have cheated and would lie and say they are home while out with friends drinking. I am different and I am only being 100% honest with him. When it comes to other things such as work and school hes fine which is why he isn't capable of monopolizing my time. I have had men in the past who tried controlling me and would try to talk me into even dropping out of school. I knew these signs were a huge red flag and got out of those relationships asap.

I can understand his jealousy to an extent. He doesn't love the idea that I've had tickling experiences with other people but that would be like me wishing he never had sexual experiences with any other other women. Hes 28 years old and has lived with 3 of his ex girlfriends, I can not expect him to be a virgin or try and make myself think he hasn't tried different things in the bedroom and he should feel the same about me (I'm 26). He says "that's different, I'm a man, you're a woman" if his past experiences were to ever bother me. Everyone has a past. I try telling him that with other people it was strictly platonic play and never sexual, just all in fun. With him its more sensual and "special".

I appreciate you all looking out for my well being. thanks =)
 
In a totally different area, I have felt the way you're describing your guy friend feeling...I've felt that heart wrenching pain when I heard a subject come up in conversation (in our case, my ex was indulging in some very intimate things with another woman - it was something I also was interested in and something they refused to share with me, and that hurt me a lot). I can see this hurting his feelings a whole lot simply because he doesn't understand what it's like to have a fetish and how healthy and normal it is to be a part of a community. To him, he's only seeing it as a sexual act that you're spreading around with whoever (emotionally, if not physically).

Now that being said, it's not healthy or right for him to continue to handle it that way. In my situation I went through utter hell, I gave myself bleeding ulcers over it, I alienated myself from my partner because they couldn't mention the "other woman" or anything connected to her, without me bristling and being cranky the rest of the day. I hurt myself and I hurt my partner, and for what? It didn't change her mind or help the situation, it just made her more secretive.

I am sharing this with you because I'm not by nature a controlling, jealous type, and I want people to know that it can still happen to well-adjusted, open-minded people who just really care about their partner and let that caring manifest in the wrong way. He needs to stop, for both your happiness and his own peace of mind. If you ever need someone else in the community to talk to him, I am more than willing to share my story with him. I know you don't know me and I'm sure there are others who you are more comfy with, but the offer is there. I wouldn't want to see someone else go through (and put their partner through) the same mistake that I made. It is a miserable way to be and it destroys relationships.
 
Jill, his description has "Dump that piece of shit!" written all over it, and I won't even try to make that sound anything other than what it is: Nasty.
He's a control freak that managed to make you feel guilty for something you love. There is no equality in any relationship with such a person. The fact he was cheeted on also implies he may not be capable of satisfying or simply isn't a strong and attractive character.
 
In the past I had a girlfriend that really resented my being a part of the TMF. Looking back, she was a little insecure and very controlling. Your guy sounds the same -- he may feel threatened because he can't offer tickling in the same way that others can.

How about he joins the forum and we show him it's like the rest of the world? We've got really cool great people and others kinds too. Not to stalk you but to see what it's all about? Maybe he'd feel less threatened if he understood the community a little better. We're just people.
 
Oh nonsense. Let's have a bit of balance here. If the guy was going to sex websites, you would probably ask him to stop it and you would tell him that you should be more than enogh for him. In a relationship there has to be balance and compromise. If he doesn't like you visiting here - stop visiting. I would consider it cheating to talk about what turns you on with other guys. Stay for the conversation and discussion if you like - but as soon as there is a sexual element - you are cheating - in my opinion. And don't listen to these people who say "dump that piece of shit". Because quite frankly, relationships are very complicated things and we shouldn't draw conclusions based on a single factor in that multifactorial relationship.
 
There should be no place in a relationship for control and jealousy, and such things are not easily cureable, if at all.
Hijacking, your opinion discredits everything you might say. Anything remotely tied to sex, watching porn or going to sex websites is cheating? Not sure if that's sad or funny. Probably a bit of both.
 
Oh nonsense. Let's have a bit of balance here. If the guy was going to sex websites, you would probably ask him to stop it and you would tell him that you should be more than enogh for him. In a relationship there has to be balance and compromise. If he doesn't like you visiting here - stop visiting. I would consider it cheating to talk about what turns you on with other guys. Stay for the conversation and discussion if you like - but as soon as there is a sexual element - you are cheating - in my opinion. And don't listen to these people who say "dump that piece of shit". Because quite frankly, relationships are very complicated things and we shouldn't draw conclusions based on a single factor in that multifactorial relationship.

+1

Maybe get him to lurk a bit? But no, don't just up and drop the dude, what you're on is still essentially a porn board, so he's not entirely overreacting.
 
Totally agree with your first point. There should be no controlling. I don't know about jealousy. I suspect it can happen from time-to-time in any relationship where two people deeply care about each other.

And you really think it's OK to go to sex websites and watch porn in a relationship? I know different people have different relationships, so I don't want to judge. But I would assume the ideal situation is that you don't need to visit porn sites or talk about what turns you on with other women, if you're in a satisfied and fulfilling relationship.

Yet, I know this place is about much more than a fetish site. So I would assume it's what you do here that determines whether it is right for your relationship or not. I think the major thing in your favour here, is that you have been honest and open with your partner. So surely he is over-reacting. But try to see it from his point of view too. It may be that he is jealous, or it may be that he just thinks that it is an inappropriate thing to do in a relationship.
 
Yes, hell yes it's perfectly ok. I've heard of perfectly sound, working relationships where partners watched porn together, even got some good ideas. Watching a porno and then getting to try something that looks cool and exciting with a partner is really something special.
 
Diagnosing a relationship secondhand is dangerous, so this is just general comments and hopefully something helpful might come of it. Betrayal by others can lead to mistrust in relationships, the important thing for anyone to remember who has suffered betrayal is that it is the nature of that specific person and not that type of relationship, a romantic relationship is not constantly under threat of betrayal that can only carefully be driven off. If one is worried about being hurt again through betrayal, that is not something that can just be ignored, or it will likely be a poison to the relationship, but control of someone who has done nothing to deserve mistrust is a cure worse than the disease. It is a relationship, you can get hurt. If that is too scary or upsetting, one of two things will likely happen: you'll be alone, or wind up with someone devoid of self-esteem willing to be controlled, and the latter only after a lot of doomed relationships before you find your doormat. A romantic relationship is ultimately the greatest trust exercise, that must be handled. The partner's job is to find ways to help reassure him/her that they are trustworthy, not through control, but in other ways, and that depends on the person. A romantic relationship means you have given your heart and body to someone else, if it's a monogamous one than those two things should be unique to that person to avoid betrayal, beyond that are interactions that are not specific to that relationship and should be respected. If that's bothersome, finding a way to get at the root of why that is is key, that person's fear needs to be brought into the light and addressed and the other person's desire to engage in an activity not specific to the relationship likewise needs to be explored, to see why it is important to them. To not address it will allow resentfulness to fester. If it can't be resolved, pretending it doesn't exist won't solve anything.

In my own relationship with my wife, she is aware of my tickling interest and not only tolerates it, she accepts that it's part of who I am. I've been getting some custom tickling videos made, and I know she is completely behind it because: it was all her idea. She has enough trust that I wouldn't betray her that she wants to let me indulge in fantasy because she knows I'll allow her the same freedom, and that at the end of the day the only ones we'll want to share our hearts and bodies with are each other; as my lover, she wants me to be happy, and I her. I know that some are here behind their partner's back, in some cases because the partner dislikes their presence, but what it has done is created the very betrayal the person was fretting over, they have put their partner into a position where they must choose to suppress an important part of themselves or sneak around without their knowledge. Instead, some acceptance is required, and some concern for the worried partner's feelings should be addressed. If they're concerned you're sharing private experiences the two of you have with the world, that's valid; if they're concerned you're spending more time with strangers on a board instead of them, that's valid; if they're concerned that you are engaging in simulated behavior with others the two of you treat as a private thing, that's valid; if they're concerned you want to discover the experiences of others, to discuss ideas related to it, to hear the fantasies of others, those are NOT valid. Of course, there's the reverse, if you want to participate in an adult forum, giving your blessing to your partner looking at adult material they enjoy with a clear conscience is only fair, in fact could be taken as a sign of just how much you trust them and ask only the same in return. Just finding what both can live with, perhaps not discussing TMF is necessary, the partner may prefer to not think about what you're doing here and being reminded of it can feel like rubbing it in their face or opening old wounds.

In short, his feelings are valid, your feelings are valid. Addressing them both is the healthiest way to move forward, to placate doubts without putting unreasonable limits on what's important to you.
 
Sit down with him.

Have an honest conversation about his jealousy. Tell him straight up that you only use this forum to converse and talk with people of the same interest.

Trust is the foundation to any relationship. Without it you are building a house of cards. If he can't trust you then you have a fragile relationship. His past experiences may make his hesitant, but it shouldn't dictate the one with you.

If he can't trust you....how can you have a real relationship? You can't.
 
I agree with what a couple of others have said here; the first thing I thought after reading was that maybe you should invite him to join the TMF instead of giving it up yourself.

Whatever you decide to do, don't listen to the shallow "advice" of these people:

So of "these people" giving "shallow 'advice'" actually have experience ;)
 
You might have experience - but you don't have sufficient evidence upon which to base your conclusion about this relationship.

Basically, her partner would prefer that she wasn't perusing a sexually-oriented fetish board. Gosh! What an asshole! Dump him now. (Being sarcastic here)

This is just one factor in their relationship.

Right now I'm single, but I would EXPECT my future partner to have deep reservations about my coming to a site like this whilst in a relationship with her. Now maybe those reservations are baseless, but I would think they are very natural and certainly not the basis for ending a relationship.

I would say to the original poster - why are you coming to a fetish board to talk about tickling, when you're in a relationship? What if your partner was visiting "Big Boobs .com!, whose members mostly talked about big boobs and posted big boobs porn? What if he was visiting strip clubs after work and justified it by saying that he only went to socialise with work colleagues and ignored all the naked women? It cold be jealousy - but quite frankly I think it's natural for a decent partner who cares about you, to not want you coming to a place like this.

Just my opinion though...

So of "these people" giving "shallow 'advice'" actually have experience ;)
 
I'm going to give you my scenario, which could be your future. Just think about it. I married a man who is "vanilla". Now, he will tickle me at times, but I get the impression that he's angry when he does. I get bruises from it and I'm not allowed to reciprocate. I'm not supposed to be on TMF, and I'm not supposed to be swapping pics and setting up playdates.
He has been explained to at length how it is and at one point invited to join. Ask questions. If he has a kink, he could explore it. I wouldn't have a problem.
All I'm saying is, make sure you are both best for each other. I have met some ticklephile males here, who make me realize, I should have shopped around. He accepted it yes, but it got old...quick. He never really understood the intensity.
Now, tomorrow I have a playdate. If he finds out...he may leave.
It's just food for thought, and only you can decide. You're not the only one in the same mess.
 
The question for you is simply: Are you happy, and do you want to be happy?

People can get "used" to miserable situations, relationships, jobs, etc.

Then there's plenty of people who will angrily reinforce reasons for a person to stay in a shitty situation because it makes them feel better in a bizarre, trollish way.

A wife's in a relationship with an abusive, controlling man.....and other people will actually get angry at her and say either "Well, YOU need to WORK on your relationship!" or "Oh, so you want to just QUIT?!" I've met a lot of these people in my life. Life is amazingly more pleasant when they leave!

If marcusb is right and you are trying to hook up with other guys, that complicates this, but then you do have issues that your boyfriend should have legitimate concerns over.

Speaking for myself, I've been here over 10 years, have never tried to hook up with anyone here, and probably never will, UNLESS I was single at the time.

If I was simply in a relationship, much less married, I wouldn't even consider it - why? I'm in a relationship. (I'm currently single, but if I wasn't, I wouldn't be searching, unless she
was mean!)
Hell, I buy clips every now and then, much less than I used to, but if I was in a real, awesome relationship, with someone who accepted my fetish.....I probably wouldn't
buy clips ever again, unless we broke up. I've got the real, warm, personality filled reality - why settle for a cold video clip?

I would want someone who was TOTALLY accepting of my presence on here, and would PRAY that she would join on her own also and become an active member, as long as she never hooked
up with anyone in real life.
Basically, if you're going to risk playing around with a total stranger, 1) who knows how turned on you may actually get at the different experience, and 2) if you were totally faithful, there's
zero way of controlling the OTHER person who may want to go further.... I'd never risk it, and I'd rather my girl not risk it.
If she wanted to go on other porn sites herself...go right ahead!
(I've been in a relationship with a super duper Catholic religious girl who was the kind that ...NO, REALLY DIDN'T WANT SEX, TOUCHING, shit, even holding hands! I wouldn't even ask her to have sex...and she was so hyper religious she'd assume I did, and would go crazy. That was a miserable, short lived relationship.
Yeah, I want someone a tad....edit, a LOT more sexually free!)
 
in fairness, even if you just came to this forum to be part of conversations, putting myself in his position I think I'd be pretty uncomfortable. It's still a fetish forum and one you've used for actual fetish purposes in the past.

That being said, why he gets upset about past experiences is confusing to me. Saying that it's different because you're a girl does seem like a red flag, but probably something that could be talked out. Is his preference that you just never reference your sexual (or fetishistic) past? Seems a bit puritanical, but I guess not a total deal-breaker if everything else is great with this guy?
 
Trust is very very important to a relationship. Y'all should sit down and have a chat. Talk it out, and if he doesn't listen...he may not have you and your best interests at heart.
 
Meh, life is too shitty and short to make yourself unhappy because of someone else's insecurities.

Although, saying you're into tickling is one thing, saying you're part of a community of fetishists - probably a bit hard for him to understand.

This is why I stopped dating vanillas.
 
First of all, no, don't feel guilty. If someone told you they'd prefer you refrain from using a particular web site, and you do anyway, that doesn't mean you're doing something wrong. If he actually gives you an ultimatum and says, "in order for a person to be in a relationship with me, they must agree not to use this web site," and then you actually agree to that, and then you use the site, then okay, you're doing something wrong.

If it really comes down to that for him -- you can either date him or interact on the Forum -- then I understand the gravity of the emotional conflict, but it's not really a complicated problem… the right answer is to pick one or the other.

It's really important that you're honest, and it's too bad he's been burned so many times. His suspicion is probably understandable -- maybe even forgivable -- but it sounds like that's his thing. He'll keep thinking about that on his own.
 
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