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Micheal Joseph Piazza

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If any of you are Mets fans, then you probably know that Mike Piazza is coming back home for a 3 game series against his former team. I grew up with Mike being the one of the faces of the franchise. He will be greeted with a standing ovation longer than any in memory for a returning player. New York loved him. i feel compelled to give you all a history lesson.

Michael Joseph Piazza (born September 4, 1968 in Norristown, Pennsylvania, USA) is a U.S. Major League Baseball player who currently plays for the San Diego Padres. He is generally recognized as the top-hitting catcher of all time. He is a 12-time All-Star. On May 5, 2004, Piazza surpassed Carlton Fisk for most home runs by a catcher with his 352nd as a catcher.

Mike grew up for the first few years of his life in a small house in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. The house was hardly big enough to hold Mike's family which consisted of his parents, Vince and Veronica, and his brothers Vince Jr., Danny, Tony and Tommy. The backyard was where Mike made his earliest baseball memories. His father had made a batting cage made of wood with a net inside. On one side of the cage was a pitching machine. Mike would load this with some tattered baseballs and then hit them. It was Mike's second home; he spent every bit of his spare time here. Even during the cold Pennsylvania winters, Mike was a constant presence in the cage, having shoveled snow out of it and then heated the baseballs on the stove in his house. To protect from the vibration of the bat on the hard baseballs in the cold, he would also wear gloves while hitting.

Vince Piazza was childhood friends with Dodgers manager, Tommy Lasorda. When the Dodgers came to Philly, Mike had the opportunity to spend time in the Dodger clubhouse and dugout. When he turned nine, he joined his first little league team, the A's. Mike's coach, Abdul Ford-Bey taught him and his teammates the fundamentals of the game. The next year, Mike was on a team called the Cardinals where Mike played catcher. Mike did not like catching, ironically. He wanted to be a pitcher. However, a few years later, when he was thirteen, Mike led his team to the semi-finals of their play-off and hit a game winning home run. At age 13, Mike was also allowed to serve as a batboy for the Dodgers which allowed him to spend even more time with major-leaguers and become friends with some of them.


Vince Piazza sold and bought land and cars until Mike was 13. However, at that time, he struck it rich after buying a computer company and was able to build a house several miles away which Vince's father had Mike help to build in order that he understand the value of hard work. The house was abutted on one side by a golf course and Mike's father had a batting cage built in the basement. With this brand new pitching machine, Mike could practice hitting not only fastballs, but curveballs and even knuckleballs. As a kid, Mike even hit in front of the legendary Ted Williams, who complimented his swing. Mike became interested in heavy metal music, and played electric guitar and drums. The high school team had a baseball team called the Phantoms. Their coach, John "Doc" Kennedy knew he would try out for the team, remembering him from little league. He asked Mike if he would consider playing catcher, as the team needed one. Piazza told the coach that he would prefer playing first base for then, but the team had a first-baseman and so he ended up spending his tenth grade year playing for the junior varsity team. When Mike was a junior he made the varsity team, he finished that year with 12 home runs, breaking a record, and led the team in every hitting category. He was voted most valuable player. As a senior, Mike batted almost .600 for the Phantoms, but the team's season ended with a loss in the district semifinals.

Piazza was the last player the Dodgers drafted of the 1988 draft. He was their selection in the 62nd round, and the 1390th pick overall. It is believed that the pick was partly a favor on the part of Los Angeles Dodgers manager Tommy Lasorda, who is godfather to one of Piazza's brothers and, like Piazza, grew up in Norristown. Piazza swore he'd learn to catch if he was drafted. Piazza's major league debut came with the Dodgers in 1992, when he appeared in 21 games. He then won the National League Rookie of the Year Award in 1993.

Piazza's best season was 1997, a year when he finished second in MVP voting. He hit .362, with 40 home runs and 124 runs batted in, an on base percentage of .431 and a slugging percentage of .638.

He played for the Dodgers until he was traded to the Florida Marlins on May 14, 1998. Piazza and Todd Zeile went to the Marlins in return for Gary Sheffield, Charles Johnson, Bobby Bonilla, Manuel Barrios, and Jim Eisenreich. The trade, precipitated by a contract dispute, is regarded by many as one of the worst moves in Dodgers history. One week later, on May 22, Piazza was traded from the Marlins to the New York Mets for Preston Wilson, Ed Yarnall, and Geoff Goetz.

Piazza helped the Mets to two consecutive playoff appearances for the only time in Mets history in 1999 and 2000; the second resulting in a National League Pennant and World Series appearance resulting in an unfortunate 5 game loss to a Yankee team winning their fourth World Series in five years. Of note, all 5 games were decided by 2 runs or less, something that had not occurred in a World Series in almost 70 years.

One of the most emotional moments of Piazza's career came when he belted a dramatic two-run home run in the eighth inning against Steve Karsay on September 21, 2001 in New York City to lift the Mets to a 3-2 triumph over the Braves in the first regular season professional sporting event in New York City since the September 11 tragedy.

To ease the stress on his deteriorating knees, Piazza began to split his time between catching and playing first base during the 2004 season, an experiment which was abandoned before the end of the season because of Piazza's defensive deficiencies. Although recognized as a great hitter, Piazza does not get enough credit for his handling of pitchers, having caught two no hitters thrown by Ramón Martínez and Hideo Nomo. Nomo's was particularly impressive because it happened at Coors Field. In his 14-year career (through 2005), Piazza's career batting average is .311 with 397 home runs, 1,223 RBI, and 308 doubles in 1,702 games.

On October 2, 2005, Piazza filed for free agency, effectively ending his career with the Mets. He signed with the San Diego Padres on (January 29), 2006 and is their starting catcher and clean-up hitter. Through July 27,2006, Piazza was experiencing somewhat of a rejuvination, batting .304 with 16 homers. Piazza is proving critics wrong yet again, this time over a decade later. On July 21, 2006, Mike Piazza collected his 2,000th career hit in the major leagues. He represented Italy in the 2006 World Baseball Classic.

He will be remembered always as a Met. I hope the HoF allows him to go in with his Orange and Blue on under an NY logo.
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Given that his best season was with the Dodgers, I will always remember him as a Dodger. :D

He is free is pick his own designation for his HOF plaque when the time comes.
 
ugh... had a feeling id be hearing from you lol. yes his best year was in Dodger Blue. his most memorable years were in Dodger Blue and Giants Orange. yes those are the Mets' colors. i was under the impression that the players didnt get the final say on which hat they get to wear in the HoF. o well... guess i was wrong. i for one will always remember as a Met. this video says it all...
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brings a tear to my eye everytime a watch it :dropatear
 
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even though I am a Yankee Fan always loved Piazza, he is the gritty type of player you always like to see in NY. I think he is great.
 
Goodieluver said:
Great offensive catcher, worthless on defense
I am sure as a White Sox fan you have watched every moment of Piazza's career to know this for a fact. In 2000, Piazza made 4 errors and in 2005 made 3 errors all season long. And yet you say he was worthless on defense. Piazza is VERY good at handling a pitching staff. In fact, when Mike Piazza's pitching staff has lead the league in ERA 3 times and has been in the top 5 in ERA ( including this year ) 6 other times. Yet he is a poor defensive catcher. What I just gave you is a small sample of how good a catcher Mike Piazza is.


A note to Milagros: He goes in as a Met!!! He was just another Dodger when was in LA. He was the FRANCHISE when he was a Mets player.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
I am sure as a White Sox fan you have watched every moment of Piazza's career to know this for a fact. In 2000, Piazza made 4 errors and in 2005 made 3 errors all season long. And yet you say he was worthless on defense. Piazza is VERY good at handling a pitching staff. In fact, when Mike Piazza's pitching staff has lead the league in ERA 3 times and has been in the top 5 in ERA ( including this year ) 6 other times. Yet he is a poor defensive catcher. What I just gave you is a small sample of how good a catcher Mike Piazza is.


A note to Milagros: He goes in as a Met!!! He was just another Dodger when was in LA. He was the FRANCHISE when he was a Mets player.

by defensive i ment he could not throw a base runner out, hell baserunners stole 145 on him in 96

There was a reason he got a failed moved to 1st base other than to "preserve" his career

AJ pierzynski made 1 or 0 errors last year, i dont consider him a great defensive catcher, now pudge is a great defensive catcher

and dont confuse me with cub fans, i actually follow baseball outside of my division
 
Goodieluver said:
by defensive i ment he could not throw a base runner out, hell baserunners stole 145 on him in 96

There was a reason he got a failed moved to 1st base other than to "preserve" his career

AJ pierzynski made 1 or 0 errors last year, i dont consider him a great defensive catcher, now pudge is a great defensive catcher

and dont confuse me with cub fans, i actually follow baseball outside of my division
But there is more to defense than throwing out baserunners. And then again, it is not always the catchers fault either. If a baseruner, gets a six step jump off the base after his initial lead the only way a catcher is going to throw a baserunner out is if he falls down. Let me tell you, if you have Al Leiter as your pitcher, it will be a baserunners haven.
 
piazza will go into the hall as a met for one reason. the world series, he went to the series as a met, so that almosts locks it up. and by the way, the blue and orange come from the giants orange and those traitor deserter rats( thats what my father called them as a kid, i could care less that they left) the dodgers is where the blue comes from.
 
kingofbrooklyn said:
piazza will go into the hall as a met for one reason. the world series, he went to the series as a met, so that almosts locks it up. and by the way, the blue and orange come from the giants orange and those traitor deserter rats( thats what my father called them as a kid, i could care less that they left) the dodgers is where the blue comes from.

exactly... im just saddened that as soon as he leaves, the Mets make another run at the playoffs. i am happy that he is atleast with a contender. SD is winning their division. who are you telling about the colors? i know that they took orange from the Giants and blue from the Dodgers. they took the NY logo from the Giants on the blue hat of Brooklyn too. also, why are the Dodgers traitors and the Giants arent?
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
But there is more to defense than throwing out baserunners. And then again, it is not always the catchers fault either. If a baseruner, gets a six step jump off the base after his initial lead the only way a catcher is going to throw a baserunner out is if he falls down. Let me tell you, if you have Al Leiter as your pitcher, it will be a baserunners haven.

True it is a pitcher too, but al leiter doesnt pitch 5 days and catchers play nearly every game if not for a few selected off days. Also, a catcher is to call off the pitcher if he see's the runner getting a lead or calling a pitch out.
 
kingofbrooklyn said:
piazza will go into the hall as a met for one reason. the world series, he went to the series as a met, so that almosts locks it up. and by the way, the blue and orange come from the giants orange and those traitor deserter rats( thats what my father called them as a kid, i could care less that they left) the dodgers is where the blue comes from.


Why would he go for the world series? Yer supposed to go to the hall for what team u played longest with and tech u dont get to choose, the voting committee votes them in.I mean for example, if the whitesox won a world series this year and Jim thome made the HOF, odds are he'd be voted in as an indian, cuz thats were the bulk of his stats came from
 
Goodieluver said:
True it is a pitcher too, but al leiter doesnt pitch 5 days and catchers play nearly every game if not for a few selected off days. Also, a catcher is to call off the pitcher if he see's the runner getting a lead or calling a pitch out.
But the Mets did not have anyone who held on baserunners well. That is fact. The only pitcher in Piazza's tenure who held baserunners on at all was Steve Trachsel. Then the fans complain that Trachsel is holding up the game. Go figure. :wow:
 
Mufasa said:
exactly... im just saddened that as soon as he leaves, the Mets make another run at the playoffs. i am happy that he is atleast with a contender. SD is winning their division. who are you telling about the colors? i know that they took orange from the Giants and blue from the Dodgers. they took the NY logo from the Giants on the blue hat of Brooklyn too. also, why are the Dodgers traitors and the Giants arent?

because my father was not a giants fan, he was a BROOKLYN dodger fan, so he could care less if they left. but to be technical, they are traitors too for leaving nyc for the left coast. imagine we still had 3 teams.
 
Mufasa said:
exactly... im just saddened that as soon as he leaves, the Mets make another run at the playoffs. i am happy that he is atleast with a contender. SD is winning their division. who are you telling about the colors? i know that they took orange from the Giants and blue from the Dodgers. they took the NY logo from the Giants on the blue hat of Brooklyn too. also, why are the Dodgers traitors and the Giants arent?


dude here is a kick ass link. do not know if you have seen it but check it out
especially the bottom where the clips are. coooool

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nym/history/anniversary_86.jsp
 
kingofbrooklyn said:
because my father was not a giants fan, he was a BROOKLYN dodger fan, so he could care less if they left. but to be technical, they are traitors too for leaving nyc for the left coast. imagine we still had 3 teams.
to be honest im glad they left cuz the only reason the Mets were formed was the lack of an NL team in NY.
 
Piazza hit a Solo HR in the ^ of the 4th. He recieved yet another standing ovation. i found myself cheering for it to go out of the park as it went. now that is true respect.
 
Mufasa said:
Piazza hit a Solo HR in the ^ of the 4th. He recieved yet another standing ovation. i found myself cheering for it to go out of the park as it went. now that is true respect.

Reminds of me frank thomas returning to chicago this year with oakland, standing Ovation first at bat, he hits a homer, fans cheer. Second atbat, some boo's, hits another hr, some more cheers, jon garland is pissed at the cheers, heh
 
Goodieluver said:
Reminds of me frank thomas returning to chicago this year with oakland, standing Ovation first at bat, he hits a homer, fans cheer. Second atbat, some boo's, hits another hr, some more cheers, jon garland is pissed at the cheers, heh
Not a chance. They cheered Mike Piazza all night on Tuesday. They cheered Mike Piazza and gave him a CURTAIN call after he hit the first of his 2 homeruns. Then they were chanting his name THROUGHOUT the game on Thursday. Please do not compare how White Sox fans and Mets fans act toward their former superstar. Mets fans EMBRACED Mike Piazza the entire 3 game series. Not booed at all in New York this week. You say there was some boos for Frank Thomas after he homered??? Not when it came to Mike Piazza. The Mets fans treated him with love and the Mets players UNDERSTOOD and didn't get pissed like Garland did. So PLEASE don't compare the two.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Not a chance. They cheered Mike Piazza all night on Tuesday. They cheered Mike Piazza and gave him a CURTAIN call after he hit the first of his 2 homeruns. Then they were chanting his name THROUGHOUT the game on Thursday. Please do not compare how White Sox fans and Mets fans act toward their former superstar. Mets fans EMBRACED Mike Piazza the entire 3 game series. Not booed at all in New York this week. You say there was some boos for Frank Thomas after he homered??? Not when it came to Mike Piazza. The Mets fans treated him with love and the Mets players UNDERSTOOD and didn't get pissed like Garland did. So PLEASE don't compare the two.


Frank got some boo's because as a fanbase, we care about the team, not for the player. He got the welcome he deserved, its only natural some would boo when he hits a 2 run hr off the home pitcher, why would u cheer your team to lose? Garland was pissed for givin up the home run the second time and cuz some of the sox fans cheered it. Would u expect your pitcher to be cheering a former teammate for hitting a hr off u? I wish frank all the luck in the world and if he continues playin a few more years he should be first ballot HOF, but i will not root for him over my white sox. And your right, i shouldnt compare the two, cuz piazza didnt play his entire career in New york. Frank played 15 seasons as a white sox 1b\dh, ever since being drafted, the media wrecked him and created so called "issues" in the clubhouse. Its a shame he couldnt stay but he will be a hall of famer and be considered the greatest player to put on a sox uni in the hall
 
Goodieluver said:
Frank got some boo's because as a fanbase, we care about the team, not for the player. He got the welcome he deserved, its only natural some would boo when he hits a 2 run hr off the home pitcher, why would u cheer your team to lose? Garland was pissed for givin up the home run the second time and cuz some of the sox fans cheered it. Would u expect your pitcher to be cheering a former teammate for hitting a hr off u? I wish frank all the luck in the world and if he continues playin a few more years he should be first ballot HOF, but i will not root for him over my white sox. And your right, i shouldnt compare the two, cuz piazza didnt play his entire career in New york. Frank played 15 seasons as a white sox 1b\dh, ever since being drafted, the media wrecked him and created so called "issues" in the clubhouse. Its a shame he couldnt stay but he will be a hall of famer and be considered the greatest player to put on a sox uni in the hall
Nobody rooted for the Mets to lose. In fact, the Mets swept San Diego. But Mike Piazza was 3 for 8 in the series with 2 homeruns. Mike was given a standing ovation throughout the entire series like I said earlier. Was asked for a curtain call after his first homerun on Wednesday. As far as I know Frank Thomas bashed your organization as he walked out the door. So Thomas ran his mouth and that is the media's fault. Mike Piazza, on the other hand, showed class and understood his situation and walked away gracefully. Besides if the Mets fans rooted for Piazza over the Mets themselves for three games heck it is only three games we only lead the division by a scanty 14 games. :D
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Nobody rooted for the Mets to lose. In fact, the Mets swept San Diego. But Mike Piazza was 3 for 8 in the series with 2 homeruns. Mike was given a standing ovation throughout the entire series like I said earlier. Was asked for a curtain call after his first homerun on Wednesday. As far as I know Frank Thomas bashed your organization as he walked out the door. So Thomas ran his mouth and that is the media's fault. Mike Piazza, on the other hand, showed class and understood his situation and walked away gracefully. Besides if the Mets fans rooted for Piazza over the Mets themselves for three games heck it is only three games we only lead the division by a scanty 14 games. :D


Again, the media machine at work

Frank was upset that Kenny williams didnt tell him they werent plannin on keeping him, so he said a few things that oakland papers blew out of proportion, then ken williams heard this and retaliated cuz he refuses to be attacked like that, spreading more gas to the fire. Both aknowledged that the media blew it up bigger than what it was, they called each other, had a discussion and made peace. This was all before frank came back to chicago, when he got back he shook hands with kenny and most of the team

Frank had an homage video played for him and got the a standing ovation first at bat, after that, it was time to play the game. And yes, only 3 games now, but should the mets somehow miss the playoffs cuz of those 3 games, it becomes a diff story. Hell, dark cloud fans started to swirl when the sox hit that august slump last year, any team can get hot or cold at any time and actually, it was a few of those 20 games frank played in(and won from his rbi's) that kept us above the indians in the race
Hell, when magglio came back in 03\04, fans boo'd him, and rightfully so, he got the same treatment arod got in seattle
 
Goodieluver said:
Again, the media machine at work

Frank was upset that Kenny williams didnt tell him they werent plannin on keeping him, so he said a few things that oakland papers blew out of proportion, then ken williams heard this and retaliated cuz he refuses to be attacked like that, spreading more gas to the fire. Both aknowledged that the media blew it up bigger than what it was, they called each other, had a discussion and made peace. This was all before frank came back to chicago, when he got back he shook hands with kenny and most of the team

Frank had an homage video played for him and got the a standing ovation first at bat, after that, it was time to play the game. And yes, only 3 games now, but should the mets somehow miss the playoffs cuz of those 3 games, it becomes a diff story. Hell, dark cloud fans started to swirl when the sox hit that august slump last year, any team can get hot or cold at any time and actually, it was a few of those 20 games frank played in(and won from his rbi's) that kept us above the indians in the race
Hell, when magglio came back in 03\04, fans boo'd him, and rightfully so, he got the same treatment arod got in seattle
If somehow the Mets missed the playoffs because of those 3 games??? Are you kidding??? That is like telling me that you lead the Tigers by 7 1/2 games and not the other way around. Did you not understand me??? The Mets lead this division by 14 games. In fact, their magic number to clinch is 35 games.

As far as Frank Thomas is concerned, is a team obligated to tell a player what they are doing once he declares free agency??? It is really hard for me to feel sorry for Frank Thomas situation when he is getting paid millions of dollars to play a game that I would play for a $100 a game. But that is just an opinion. I will comment on one thing though, Congrats that you won tonight, but to have a realistic shot at catching the Tigers you MUST sweep them. You can't let the Tigers walk away with one game. Feel free to PM me anytime.
 
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