Youtube Childporn

[Oddjob0226]

If you think people masturbating to underage kids tickling each other in videos is at all okay, you're the one who needs a perspective shift.

Except he's the professional who knows what he's talking about.

BTW, since you're here on the TMF you are an enabler. Here's this -

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?252646-My-24-year-old-asian-wife-s-feet

That's not the first thread where someone has said "I've been here since I was an underage teen enjoying the stuff you have been posting & generating." Some underage kids are dumb; some don't care what they get into. And right now all of us are associating with them. We'd don't know who they are, but we know they are here RIGHT NOW. So - who's a staunch enough moralist in this thread to leave the TMF permanently since there should be zero tolerance for such age mixing, scum of the earth, etc.? Again, you know underage kids are willingly on here right now with you as you are reading this.

It may be a right/wrong issue, but approaching it sensibly is a matter of degrees, not blunderbusses.

 

[dasefez]

Im glad someone post this besides me make me sick to my ass when I read the comments.

 

[desperado_flare]

If you think people masturbating to underage kids tickling each other in videos is at all okay, you're the one who needs a perspective shift.

A shift to what, exactly? Not even the thought police from Minority Report would bash in the door of some weirdo wanker just for being a weirdo wanker.

The worst thing about this attitude is that it does far more harm than good. A pedophile, again, is someone who wants to have sex with or sexually molest a pre-pubescent child. Freaking these kids out with alarmist "the ones making these requests are pedophiles!" comments creates an implicit sexual threat where none exists. The moment the word "pedophile" is uttered, the assumption is made that these videos are grooming kids for actual sexual exploitation down the line, which is totally off base. People who are into feet and tickling primarily want feet and tickling, and these desires are often quite divorced from typical sexual contact depending on the context.

Using terms like "child porn" and "pedophilia," puts videos of fully-clothed kids tickling each other, and the people who want to watch them, into the same category as those who have a severe mental illness and the barbaric materials they produce. It's fear mongering and entirely counterproductive to the real work my contemporaries and I do to combat actual dangers facing children every day.

All this thread tells me is that most people have no idea what real pedophiles are into. I urge anyone who disagrees with this post to please look into the following: John Wayne Gacy, Marc Dutroux, Christopher Neil, Mitchell Harrison, and Peter Whitmore. Then return here to discuss the depraved horrors of the child-tickling scourge.

 

[dasefez]

A shift to what, exactly? Not even the thought police from Minority Report would bash in the door of some weirdo wanker just for being a weirdo wanker.

The worst thing about this attitude is that it does far more harm than good. A pedophile, again, is someone who wants to have sex with or sexually molest a pre-pubescent child. Freaking these kids out with alarmist "the ones making these requests are pedophiles!" comments creates an implicit sexual threat where none exists. The moment the word "pedophile" is uttered, the assumption is made that these videos are grooming kids for actual sexual exploitation down the line, which is totally off base. People who are into feet and tickling primarily want feet and tickling, and these desires are often quite divorced from typical sexual contact depending on the context.

Using terms like "child porn" and "pedophilia," puts videos of fully-clothed kids tickling each other, and the people who want to watch them, into the same category as those who have a severe mental illness and the barbaric materials they produce. It's fear mongering and entirely counterproductive to the real work my contemporaries and I do to combat actual dangers facing children every day.

All this thread tells me is that most people have no idea what real pedophiles are into. I urge anyone who disagrees with this post to please look into the following: John Wayne Gacy, Marc Dutroux, Christopher Neil, Mitchell Harrison, and Peter Whitmore. Then return here to discuss the depraved horrors of the child-tickling scourge.

Then were is the line drawn. Call me a softy but I think the line needs to be drawn at asking a underage kid to tickle another kid, when the person asking is being a dirty old man. Lets say they agree next they ll probably ask for them to tie each other up and after that he asked to see some ass (possibility is unlikely but your smart enough to see the big picture). Yes their are more important people to catch but to use a euphemism like mental illness is wrong. My 99 year old grandmom has mental issues, not the people who is asking kids to do this, they know exactly what their doing and they know its wrong. I would label it interactive child porn so they can beat the meat.

 

[LargerWorld2577]

Just a thought - the people making these requests could also be young kids of the same age who are trying to explore their newfound - but not necessarily understood - fetishistic interest, so it might not always be a case of pedophilia but for example maybe some 12-year-old who likes tickling and wants to see other 12-year-olds doing tickling. Not saying it's okay for these videos to be up because the internet is forever, and it could still fuel any desires of actual predators. We may never fully eliminate child abuse but we can at least put things in perspective. I'm more worried about the kid trapped in some psycho's basement being tortured to death than some kid being gotten off on on a YouTube tickling video. Ideally, I wish parents would pay closer attention to what their kids are doing on the internet, then maybe none of this would happen.

 

[laughingisgood]

I've also taken notice to this. Giving tickle enthusiasts a bad name :-(. I just flag what I can and move on.

 

[desperado_flare]

Then were is the line drawn. Call me a softy but I think the line needs to be drawn at asking a underage kid to tickle another kid, when the person asking is being a dirty old man. Lets say they agree next they ll probably ask for them to tie each other up and after that he asked to see some ass (possibility is unlikely but your smart enough to see the big picture). Yes their are more important people to catch but to use a euphemism like mental illness is wrong. My 99 year old grandmom has mental issues, not the people who is asking kids to do this, they know exactly what their doing and they know its wrong. I would label it interactive child porn so they can beat the meat.

Pedophilia has been labeled a mental disorder since the 60s. Only recently have there been distinctions between those who act on their desires (mentally ill) and those who don't (not mentally ill).

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/explaining-pedophilia

"Lets say they agree next they ll probably ask for them to tie each other up and after that he asked to see some ass (possibility is unlikely but your smart enough to see the big picture)."

This is blatantly untrue. If this is the progression, then the ones making the requests are pedophiles, not tickling fetishists. In a tickling fetish, linear escalation of sexual desires is extremely abnormal. Thus, a tickling fetishist will make more requests for the kids to tickle each other, they will not ask them to undress or make other criminal requests.

You're only proving my point by acknowledging that the tickling itself isn't a problem, but that the real issue lies with your own fears that the requests will escalate into something blatantly sexual. This thread is arguing that the tickling itself is child porn, which is completely outrageous and clearly illustrates a lack of research-based knowledge on child sexual abuse.

I'll reiterate this for the last time: The "line" is wanting to have sex with a child, molest a child, or see a child in an explicit state of undress. If any of this occurs in a video you observe, then you're damn near morally obligated to flag it and notify whomever you can. If this line is not crossed in said video, it isn't an issue that has anything to do with pedophilia, child pornography or sexual abuse.

 

[Frowg]

Whenever I find a video like this involving children, I report it. Period, the end... That is how we, as a community, can do the most good for this situation.

 

[Yossarian]

Just a thought - the people making these requests could also be young kids of the same age who are trying to explore their newfound - but not necessarily understood - fetishistic interest, so it might not always be a case of pedophilia but for example maybe some 12-year-old who likes tickling and wants to see other 12-year-olds doing tickling. Not saying it's okay for these videos to be up because the internet is forever, and it could still fuel any desires of actual predators. We may never fully eliminate child abuse but we can at least put things in perspective. I'm more worried about the kid trapped in some psycho's basement being tortured to death than some kid being gotten off on on a YouTube tickling video. Ideally, I wish parents would pay closer attention to what their kids are doing on the internet, then maybe none of this would happen.

It's definitely a little naïve to assume that everyone using this forum and other tickling-related sites is at least 18 years old.

My original username here was MysticGohan13, and I very much doubt I was the first or last curious teen lurking about the place.

 

[firegod86]

Yup i myself was 14 when i first started coming here. Long before i ever had my current name.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

If you think people masturbating to underage kids tickling each other in videos is at all okay, you're the one who needs a perspective shift.

The Morality Police strikes. Who the hell are you to decide what everyone else should deem okay or not okay?

If an adult masturbates to videos of a couple of 14 year old girls tickling each other, who is harmed by this? It would be different if the guy is stalking them or in some way pursuing some kind of real world fondling or sexual interaction, or even contacting them over the internet.

But in the privacy of their own homes, people have the right to beat off to whatever they find palatable on the Internet.

 

[pfromptown]

I'm not sure what we as a community can do to stop it, but it is nothing short of deriving sexual satisfaction from children, which is morally reprehensible and thankfully illegal. I think reporting is the way to go, but maybe it's something politicians should be looking at more seriously.

 

[wolfwallstreet]

God that's so messed up

 

[sirseaspraysr]

I would have to agree with Desperado Flare on this.

The arguments against these YT videos appear to fall into 2 categories.
1. They're dangerous
2. We don't like what the Pervert is thinking.

Response:

1a. YT is generally not conducive to predators trolling for victims since people there are not looking to hook up. Comments made there are, of necessity, short & easily tracked.
1b. Even pornography, which this is not, has never been found to escalate to criminal behavior. (Kiddie porn is rightfully banned because, somewhere, a child was abused in its making).
1c. These videos & comments are not illegal otherwise the posters would be arrested.

2a. Who cares what a Pervert is thinking? He can beat it till it falls off.

Why should we give a tiny handful of whackos the power to affect the viewing habits of a nation & push us further into over-regulation?

--SirSeaSpraySr

 

[The_Kev]

The Morality Police strikes. Who the hell are you to decide what everyone else should deem okay or not okay?

If an adult masturbates to videos of a couple of 14 year old girls tickling each other, who is harmed by this? It would be different if the guy is stalking them or in some way pursuing some kind of real world fondling or sexual interaction, or even contacting them over the internet.

But in the privacy of their own homes, people have the right to beat off to whatever they find palatable on the Internet.

Wow! heavy topic!

I think the answer is that, having a sexual attraction to a child is self evidently disordered. The person being harmed by it is the person doing it. What's more, if an adult is putting out a dare to try and get under aged people to preform a situation that they find sexual, I think it's fair to say that there's something wrong with that.

It is not psychologically or physiologically natural to be sexually attracted to children, and if a person is, I don't think we're out of line to say that they ought to fight that by any means necessary and not feed it. I don't think that's being the moral police, I think that's just common sense.

IMHO.

 

[duderino84]

...so...

Am I the only one who thinks these kids are just fucking stupid?

I mean, yeah, grr and all that. It is disgusting.

But...I mean. Stupid children.

I guess I'm just passive but I don't find it entertaining, I really just see it as kids being adventurous and looking for attention (foolishly).

Kind of like guys I know on YouTube posting decade old footage of what the local mall used to be.

The internet is seen as a toy today. What did you think would happen?