Ok thanks for the links. I will save the pictures. If I cant find a 3d doll object to use. I am thinking I may try to turn a picture of a doll into a painting. Maybe Impressionistic, or Classic and take things from there. Just so you know I am trying to set up my store and take care of my parents so this will take a bit of time, if I cant find the objects or the turning a doll into a painting does not work then you might have to find someone else to do the sig. For now lets think positive thoughts though. Peace and wuv.