Pretty much exactly what people are saying.
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How many straight guys would let another guy tie and tickle them?
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Pretty much exactly what people are saying.
Because a fetish is used more commonly in a sexual terms in an overly sexual society. In actuality, a fetish only means a strong need or desire for something. Someone can have a fetish to for tickling that has nothing to do with anything sexual at all and I would be a perfect example. For others it would be completely sexual and still be a fetish.
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Incredibly well said.
It never ceases to amaze me how super critical and single minded people are.
The OP never mentioned anything about being gay, bi, bi-curious, or anything like that.
Yet there are a lot of mindless morons who insist on telling him that because he simply posted a question
about M/M tickling that they all of a sudden know more about his sexuality then he does. I love tickling for the sake of TICKLING.
I have tickled and been tickled by males and females. No, I am not gay, just lucky to have had so many tickle experiences in my life.
Its no wonder some people have such a problem finding tickle partners nowdays.
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Okay fine, but the examples you give here are all gay people having hetero sex. It's deviancy crossing over into normalcy. A relatively easy and natural transition. Your earlier statement to which I objected mentioned a straight guy fucking another guy. Normalcy crossing over into deviancy. And pretty radical deviancy at that. Definitely no easy transition there. It would require a radical reshaping of one's sexual outlook, which of course would significantly taint, if not altogether destroy one's heterosexuality.
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Ha, look at that. The person on the tickle fetish web site is calling homosexuals deviancy. Hypocrisy anyone?
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I don't believe it does.
I accept your concession.
None for me thanks. Although I do appreciate your willingness to share out of your abundance.
The principle of this thread was to ask straight men if they would let another guy tie them up and tickle them.
It's not about fluid sexuality and any of that. It's what people feel comfortable with. Tickling is extremely sexual for me. I also identify myself as straight. Ergo, letting another man tie me up and tickle me, or for me to do it to them, is a sexual act with another man. And that's either bisexual or gay in my book.
But it's my book. I don't give a shit what other people choose to do, as long as it isn't something that I have to deal with or partake in.
It's not about fluid sexuality and any of that. It's what people feel comfortable with. Tickling is extremely sexual for me. I also identify myself as straight. Ergo, letting another man tie me up and tickle me, or for me to do it to them, is a sexual act with another man. And that's either bisexual or gay in my book.
But it's my book. I don't give a shit what other people choose to do, as long as it isn't something that I have to deal with or partake in.
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As long as he respected my limits, and I trusted the guy, I would for sure get tied up and tickled. I'm straight and I don't view M/M tickling in a sexual way. Being very ticklish however, I like to test my own limits and see how long I can get tickled for.
I tickled the OP, and I have to say I laughed shaking my head as I read through some of the responses. There was such a wide variance of takes from the very reasonable and articulate explanation by Myriads, et al., to those who simply answered the question with "no, it wouldn't be for me", to those who took the suggestion like discovering an alien creature suddenly bursting out of their chests.
I've tickled straight guys all my life with few of them 1) the object of my sexual affection, 2) wanting to have sex with me, 3) "changing" their orientation as a result or 4) completely freaking out badly over the experience.
I kinda feel bad for those posting here who have tickling so attached to sexual activity that they think that m/m is "disgusting" or something they "don't want to have to deal with". Growing up, I could have had both my gayness and my attraction to tickling be a healthy combination, however, I had to "deal with" a very homophobic society where my orientation had to be suppressed for over a decade. The funny thing is, I NEVER had to hide my attraction to tickling guys (and it was always guys), because I can and do understand that tickling, for me, doesn't always have to end in having sex. Like I've said on this forum before, I don't have sex nor do I want to have sex with every guy I tickle.
For me, there are two sorts of chemistry at work: sexual chemistry and tickling chemistry. Sexual chemistry, of course, is whether I'm attracted enough to a guy to have full out sex with him, share feelings, share activities, etc.
Tickling chemistry is what's going to want me to tickle him: is he clean? have nice feet? how's his personality? does he respond well to tickling? is he easy-going? is he healthy (not going to faint or have cardiac arrest when I tickle him)? does he seem mentally stable?
It's not necessary for me to have the sexual chemistry attached to the tickling chemistry with a guy for me to have fun tickling him. The only thing crucial for me overlapping for both is:
is he going to be my friend ?
Fantasizing about tickling guys is all well and good but I still consider it assault if it's not done with consent or done under conditions where it can naturally occur (playful times, not at the Thanksgiving dinner table).
As I've said before, I could care less what my ticklee thinks of himself or "labels" himself (I've recently begun asking if a guy is "straight-identified" to allow for a looser translation). Never been into /f tickling, but don't freak out if I see it.
I've tickled straight guys all my life with few of them 1) the object of my sexual affection, 2) wanting to have sex with me, 3) "changing" their orientation as a result or 4) completely freaking out badly over the experience.
I kinda feel bad for those posting here who have tickling so attached to sexual activity that they think that m/m is "disgusting" or something they "don't want to have to deal with". Growing up, I could have had both my gayness and my attraction to tickling be a healthy combination, however, I had to "deal with" a very homophobic society where my orientation had to be suppressed for over a decade. The funny thing is, I NEVER had to hide my attraction to tickling guys (and it was always guys), because I can and do understand that tickling, for me, doesn't always have to end in having sex. Like I've said on this forum before, I don't have sex nor do I want to have sex with every guy I tickle.
For me, there are two sorts of chemistry at work: sexual chemistry and tickling chemistry. Sexual chemistry, of course, is whether I'm attracted enough to a guy to have full out sex with him, share feelings, share activities, etc.
Tickling chemistry is what's going to want me to tickle him: is he clean? have nice feet? how's his personality? does he respond well to tickling? is he easy-going? is he healthy (not going to faint or have cardiac arrest when I tickle him)? does he seem mentally stable?
It's not necessary for me to have the sexual chemistry attached to the tickling chemistry with a guy for me to have fun tickling him. The only thing crucial for me overlapping for both is:
is he going to be my friend ?
Fantasizing about tickling guys is all well and good but I still consider it assault if it's not done with consent or done under conditions where it can naturally occur (playful times, not at the Thanksgiving dinner table).
As I've said before, I could care less what my ticklee thinks of himself or "labels" himself (I've recently begun asking if a guy is "straight-identified" to allow for a looser translation). Never been into /f tickling, but don't freak out if I see it.
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Something doesn't necessarily have to BE sex or end in sex to be considered sexually inappropriate. It seems about half the people here feel tickling is something that can be done playfully and about half consider it something only appropriate to do with sexual partners. A lot of us here do have extremely strong fetishes, but you don't have to feel bad for us over it. If there's a place we should be able to come where we DON'T have to feel shameful for viewing tickling as sex, THIS SHOULD BE IT, no??? Sometimes people here react as if tickling isn't at all sexual, and it's weird to encounter that on a tickling fetish forum.
That said, no one should have to feel shameful over whatever they do, either. I think it's just that for those of us who do view it as sex, it can be a bit shocking to see how casual some people can be about it. There's nothing wrong with being casual (tickling or sex) as long as you're happy and safe with your life. It isn't for me, but I still find it fascinating to see the ways other people choose to play. And unlike some of the guys, it doesn't make me squeamish or anything (the thought of two guys together in whatever way is hot to me). It's just amazing to me that people could do THAT without considering it sexual.
That said, no one should have to feel shameful over whatever they do, either. I think it's just that for those of us who do view it as sex, it can be a bit shocking to see how casual some people can be about it. There's nothing wrong with being casual (tickling or sex) as long as you're happy and safe with your life. It isn't for me, but I still find it fascinating to see the ways other people choose to play. And unlike some of the guys, it doesn't make me squeamish or anything (the thought of two guys together in whatever way is hot to me). It's just amazing to me that people could do THAT without considering it sexual.
So, here is a question, and honestly I'm being serious about this, because you're raising a dilemma that might be running in the minds of some guys.
What happens when you run into a situation where you are with buddies, perhaps watching a ball game on TV in someone's home, and a tickle fight goes on between two men you are with? Assuming none of the guys are into the scene as you are, does it repel you? Make you nervous of a fear of somehow being outed if you either enjoyed it or joined in?
Casual tickling is something I've done quite often to solidify my friendships with guys, and I've also seen this occur with guys having no interest in each other sexually. It's the reason why I wrote what I did, since it increases my chances of having casual tickling and fun times with my friends.
If the tickling you are referring to is what I call a "session," including more intense tickling for longer periods of time, a definite d/s play and perhaps even bondage, then for me it triggers the idea that maybe this guy wants sex as well. In this case, I definitely talk to the guy beforehand to find out exactly what he wants.
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I'm a girl. I haven't seen a lot of tickle fights between straight guys, but it does repel me to see tickling in non-sexual situations because it feels like porn unfolding before my eyes with completely inappropriate participants. I wouldn't have a fear of being outed for joining in, I just couldn't do my most intense sexual thing with someone who was just a friend.
So what would be the situation if you saw a father tickling his toddler son? Would you see that as "porn unfolding before your eyes?"
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Yes. I HATE IT. It makes me so uncomfortable. I realize I'm the one with the perversion so I can't blame other people for doing it, but I definitely do not enjoy seeing it happen around me.
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Never. Not in a million years. It would have to be %100 non consensual because I would not want that and once I got out I may try and kill the guy.
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Once again, it's completely disgusting for two or more guys to be tickling each other. They might as well be cuddling or ass pounding each other. Same thing in my book. To each his own but I'm not on board with something so vile.
I kind of feel bad for people who feel like they need to write out something that is almost condescending in its nature about the differences in how they view it.
It's great that you don't; I do. I very much do. Many others here, whatever their gender may be, very much do. I don't tickle my guy friends. I don't want them tickling me. I don't want family members tickling me. It freaks me out. It pisses me off. The act and the ramifications of it are hardlined to be sexual in their very nature.
I don't feel sorry for feeling this way.
What I feel weird about are the people here who frequent this forum who go onto a sexualized fetish board and try to replace sex in their lives with tickling, or feel the two aren't linked. If it is a draw, there is a concerted effort made by someone to fulfill their needs, and it's gross, actually.
It's why I responded no, because there isn't a lick of nuance to it. It's no. Have an issue with it? Don't care.
"I kind of feel bad for people who feel like they need to write out something that is almost condescending in its nature about the differences in how they view it."
"What I feel weird about are the people here who frequent this forum who go onto a sexualized fetish board and try to replace sex in their lives with tickling, or feel the two aren't linked. If it is a draw, there is a concerted effort made by someone to fulfill their needs, and it's gross, actually."
I love that there's a complete contradiction here with my explanation being "almost condescending" and then writing a condescending statement that tickling and sex MUST be connected and anyone who can separate the two is being "gross."
Don't "kinda feel bad" for me. I don't need your false pity. I'm quite capable of separating sex and tickling in my life and quite happy that I can. If you can't, well, then you can't.
My objection as stated once again until my face turns blue is the vitriol with which m/m tickling is handled on this board by some people in comparison to anything */f related. Just look over all the posts with */m and */f and tally up who's disgusted by what and it's always much more skewed against */m.
"What I feel weird about are the people here who frequent this forum who go onto a sexualized fetish board and try to replace sex in their lives with tickling, or feel the two aren't linked. If it is a draw, there is a concerted effort made by someone to fulfill their needs, and it's gross, actually."
I love that there's a complete contradiction here with my explanation being "almost condescending" and then writing a condescending statement that tickling and sex MUST be connected and anyone who can separate the two is being "gross."
Don't "kinda feel bad" for me. I don't need your false pity. I'm quite capable of separating sex and tickling in my life and quite happy that I can. If you can't, well, then you can't.
My objection as stated once again until my face turns blue is the vitriol with which m/m tickling is handled on this board by some people in comparison to anything */f related. Just look over all the posts with */m and */f and tally up who's disgusted by what and it's always much more skewed against */m.
