How many straight guys would let another guy tie and tickle them?

[helplessandhappy]

It's great that you don't; I do. I very much do. Many others here, whatever their gender may be, very much do. I don't tickle my guy friends. I don't want them tickling me. I don't want family members tickling me. It freaks me out. It pisses me off. The act and the ramifications of it are hardlined to be sexual in their very nature.

Thanks for saying this. It's nice to see others who feel exactly like I do.

 

[TripleH1]

Once again, it's completely disgusting for two or more guys to be tickling each other. They might as well be cuddling or ass pounding each other. Same thing in my book. To each his own but I'm not on board with something so vile.

The most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

 

[meangry]

"I kind of feel bad for people who feel like they need to write out something that is almost condescending in its nature about the differences in how they view it."
"What I feel weird about are the people here who frequent this forum who go onto a sexualized fetish board and try to replace sex in their lives with tickling, or feel the two aren't linked. If it is a draw, there is a concerted effort made by someone to fulfill their needs, and it's gross, actually."

I love that there's a complete contradiction here with my explanation being "almost condescending" and then writing a condescending statement that tickling and sex MUST be connected and anyone who can separate the two is being "gross."

Your condescension comes from a plea for inclusion.

Mine is very much rooted in exclusion.

You're on a tickling fetish forum on the internet that is loaded to the gills with sexual content explicit or otherwise. I know why I'm here. I don't have to create a dichotomy within my own identity to channel different needs and interests into other things. I'm not here to wrap everyone in the same blanket and say "don't judge lest ye be judged". There are plenty of things people within this community say and do that disgust me. There are plenty of things other people do separate fetishes that disgust me.

If you like it, fine; keep it the fuck away from me. I don't go on to M/M threads and I don't enjoy the materials within them because the sexual context for someone who finds tickling sexual is that it is homosexual.

At the same time, this thread is also is asking straight dudes if they'd let another dude tie them up and tickle them. Sorry if the responses didn't jive with what you wanted.

Don't "kinda feel bad" for me. I don't need your false pity. I'm quite capable of separating sex and tickling in my life and quite happy that I can. If you can't, well, then you can't.

My objection as stated once again until my face turns blue is the vitriol with which m/m tickling is handled on this board by some people in comparison to anything */f related. Just look over all the posts with */m and */f and tally up who's disgusted by what and it's always much more skewed against */m.

The kinda feel bad line is a play on your previous post, where you make a point to say that you feel bad for people who can't differentiate their tickling fetish from their sexual proclivities. It was to make light of your sentiment, because to be quite frank, I don't accept your flawed pity because the sexualization of tickling for me it isn't something that has bothered me, either personally or sexually.

This thread isn't about the vitriol and the disgust of M/M content, and quite frankly, isn't the place for it. You want that discussion, start a new thread. That's hijacking, to suit your interests. Personally, the response to said content isn't shocking. Some of it comes from piss poor codification by producers/artists. Know what it really is? It's a board that is predominantly men, who identify as straight, and are not accepting of M/M content because it is homosexual to them. This isn't shocking. In fact, it's par the course.

 

[rwd1731]

I am a straight guy and I let another guy tie and tickle me. I wonder how many other guys have had this experience.

Feel free to PM if you don't want to post here.

I haven't, and probably wouldn't.

 

[Haptic]

Wow, okay.
Haven't read the whole thread and am probably just adding fuel to the flame but:
Telling someone who identifies as straight that they are gay whether they know it or not is a dick move and pretty homophobic.
Ditto telling a gay person that they are straight, telling a straight person that they are bi, etc, etc, etc.
The only way you have of knowing someone else's sexuality is if they tell you.
Live and let live.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

Wow, okay.
Haven't read the whole thread and am probably just adding fuel to the flame but:
Telling someone who identifies as straight that they are gay whether they know it or not is a dick move and pretty homophobic.
Ditto telling a gay person that they are straight, telling a straight person that they are bi, etc, etc, etc.
The only way you have of knowing someone else's sexuality is if they tell you.
Live and let live.

So...you view sexual preference as something that is picked and chosen by an individual as part of his or her identity, like a style of wardrobe? Whatever they "say" they are on any given day is what determines their actual preference?

Yeah, that doesn't work for me. If a guy is sucking dick, taking it up the ass, etc., his heterosexual membership card has long been revoked. He doesn't get to be "straight" any more. Oops, I meant "str8."

As for M/M tickling? There's no rocket science to this. If it's in a spontaneous non-sexual context such as horsing around, wrestling, etc, it probably isn't gay. However, if it involves sexual elements such as partial to full nudity, bondage, and/or intimate privacy, then yes, it falls into the category of the homoerotic.

Sorry, "str8" dudes, but that's the way it is. Time to suck it up and face the truth. (Ooh, bad choice of words?)

 

[The_Kev]

Okay, here's the deal. We tend to think of sexuality as these cookie cutter, one size fits all description, but people and sexuality are more complicated than that.

Not to get too graphic but, when it comes to which gender I'll put my dick inside of, I'm heterosexual. I wouldn't kiss a guy or suck his dick either. However, I do find guys physically appealing, and the thought of making a guy squirm and suffer and giggle is a very pleasing thought to me. If a guy tickles me out of a sense of competitiveness, its a big turn on. Doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't actually have sex with him, but there's a sexual context at work.

What I'm saying is that sexuality isn't as cut and dry as we think it is. It isn't all about what hole you do or don't want to put your dick in.

 

[TripleH1]

The only thing this thread has proven is that the majority of its respondents are homophobic and have no idea about the basic concept of sexuality more than a caveman screwing a hole they dig in the ground.

 

[SexyVirgin]

I might if they is a girl there too

 

[helplessandhappy]

The only thing this thread has proven is that the majority of its respondents are homophobic and have no idea about the basic concept of sexuality more than a caveman screwing a hole they dig in the ground.

Viewing something as a homosexual act and being homophobic are two different things. Although there were some unnecessarily awful posts from a few people.

 

[C.A.B.]

The only thing this thread has proven is that the majority of its respondents are homophobic and have no idea about the basic concept of sexuality more than a caveman screwing a hole they dig in the ground.

What is this 'basic concept of sexuality' as you understand it?

 

[NYC_finest]

Being that I really know no one into the fetish, I usually do sessions and being young I can't afford it all the time, so if I really must have to for tickle play I would. But I would also feel uncomfortable at te same time

 

[meangry]

The only thing this thread has proven is that the majority of its respondents are homophobic and have no idea about the basic concept of sexuality more than a caveman screwing a hole they dig in the ground.

I'm sorry that there are people who view a straight man tying up and tickling another straight man as homosexual, especially on a TICKLING FETISH WEBSITE ON THE INTERNET.

 

[Iggy pop]

If I were to say that I love tying up 8 year-old girls and tickling, but I am not a pedophile because I do not have sex or penetrate them in any way. Would there be anyone on this board that not be horrified? If tying up someone and ticklings is not sexual then why would anybody be upset?

 

[TripleH1]

What is this 'basic concept of sexuality' as you understand it?

That, as I've stated previously in this same thread, sexual orientation is ingrained and unchanging, not based on actions. People seem to be stating their personal opinions as fact.

"Yeah, that doesn't work for me. If a guy is sucking dick, taking it up the ass, etc., his heterosexual membership card has long been revoked. He doesn't get to be "straight" any more."

Quotes like that are exactly what I'm talking about. A straight man can be tickled by, tied up by, even engage in sex with another man and it doesn't make him homosexual. There are thousand and thousands of people who have experimented, including my lesbian friend who decided to fuck guys until she made herself straight. Guess what? It didn't work, because she's a lesbian and always was a lesbian even when engaged in sex with men.

Acts of a sexual nature do not determine sexual orientation, you can't fuck a girl one night and be straight and fuck a guy the next night and you're gay. It's not how it works, despite folks opinions on this thread which really don't mater in the firt place, because you can't debate fact.

 

[YouNeverKnow175]

This is a very interesting question and I gave it some thought. Basically there's one circumstance under which I would in fact do it: if it were a turn-on for a woman.

I actually love the idea of a female 'ler being turned on by seeing me tickled. So, for example, if my girlfriend suddenly turned into a 'ler (she seems like she might be on her way), or if my good friend Sarah, who I suspect of being a 'ler, wanted to see this, I would do it for their pleasure.

For me I'd also only want it to be one specific male friend of mine, a very close friend who is playful and loving, and has tickled me briefly before. I know it's not sexual for him...and it wouldn't be about turning him on. For me, it would be about celebrating my love of tickling and sharing it with someone who very much appreciates it.

 

[meangry]

What is this 'basic concept of sexuality' as you understand it?

That, as I've stated previously in this same thread, sexual orientation is ingrained and unchanging, not based on actions. People seem to be stating their personal opinions as fact.

"Yeah, that doesn't work for me. If a guy is sucking dick, taking it up the ass, etc., his heterosexual membership card has long been revoked. He doesn't get to be "straight" any more."

Quotes like that are exactly what I'm talking about. A straight man can be tickled by, tied up by, even engage in sex with another man and it doesn't make him homosexual. There are thousand and thousands of people who have experimented, including my lesbian friend who decided to fuck guys until she made herself straight. Guess what? It didn't work, because she's a lesbian and always was a lesbian even when engaged in sex with men.

Acts of a sexual nature do not determine sexual orientation, you can't fuck a girl one night and be straight and fuck a guy the next night and you're gay. It's not how it works, despite folks opinions on this thread which really don't mater in the firt place, because you can't debate fact.

What the fuck does any of this mean?

 

[Libertine]

I've spent 40 years as a professional actor, and in that time I've met many many homosexuals of both sexes since the theatre tends to attract them in disproportionate numbers as actors, designers and choreographers. Lesbians tend to be more circumspect, but the main shake-my-head-and-sigh problem I have and have always had with younger gay men (for the most part- some older ones are similarly deluded) is this: All too often, they divide males into two categories- those who are gay and those who somehow do not know they are gay yet. This thread is merely a variation on that theme- "phishing" if the definition thereof can be expanded.

 

[TripleH1]

What the fuck does any of this mean?

Exactly.

 

[Torturer]

I wouldn't. It's not my thing at all. Just M/f with me as the ler.

 

[meangry]

Exactly.

What exactly do you not get about reality?

The phenomenon you described is bisexuality.

If you are getting fucked in the ass or putting dicks in your mouth to suck on, then you're engaged in behaviors that go against the designation of being heterosexual/straight. This isn't exactly rocket science. These are behaviors that COMPLETELY PRECLUDE YOU FROM BEING STRAIGHT. What are you rambling about?

 

[TripleH1]

The phenomenon you described is bisexuality.

No, it's not. Though I don't except someone like you to understand, by you I mean people to who which fact sounds like "rambling". Behavior dictates nothing. So based on your idea of action over nature defining sexuality, were I to pull a gun on you and force you to have sex with a guy, you would then be gay and want to fuck only guys.

 

[helplessandhappy]

You both are essentially correct. TripleH1 is right that a person can experiment with a member of the same sex and not actually be gay. However, meangry/others are correct that the person would still be engaging in a sexual act with a member of their own sex at the time. The act itself can be bisexual/homosexual and the person could still end up being straight. But it should be called what it is. Pretending it isn't sexual is just stupid in my opinion. Someone made an excellent point a page or two back--if anyone was talking about doing a tied tickle session with a small child, everyone would have a problem with it.

A straight man can be tickled by, tied up by, even engage in sex with another man and it doesn't make him homosexual.

Of course he could do that and still end up straight, but he would at the very least be bicurious for a period of his life. Why is it so terrible to say someone is bicurious?

 

[smokinj]

(GR violation - Jeff)

 

[TripleH1]

Why is it still talking?