ShiningIce said:
Jim please go into more detail about these two civilizations. I find stuff like this fascinating.
Righty-dokey skip. Starting at the very beginning eh?
Atlantis as it's name suggests, was alleged to have been an advanced island civilisation, that existed in the Atlantic Ocean. Lemuria is alleged to have been similar, but in the Pacific. These two "alleged" civilisations have something in common with othe civillisations of the ancient world, in that they started at the height of their powers and then gradually declined into obscurity. (Although Lemuria and Atlantis didn't decline exactly, as they are said to have been wiped out in cataclysms.)
The theory goes that these two places existed in what is universally called, "The Golden Age". This was a time according to countless sources in dozens of civillisations from all across the world; when the gods lived amongst men and taught them science, mathematics, astronomy etc. Not all civillisations call them by the names Atlantis and Lemuria however. Most have their own words that roughly translate as "Land Of The Fire Serpents" or "Land Of The Gods" etc. Unequivocably these sources do not refer to somewhere outside of this planet. The inspiration for them is refered to that way, but Atlantis and Lemuria themselves, aren't.
These two were hotbeds of technology and enlightenment and "the gods" were freely involved on a physical level according to the records and the writing of certain Greek authors and philosophers.
Between 12000 and 7-8000 years ago, a series of catastrophies occured that caused gigantic upheaval on the Earth. This time frame would fit the record's time frame of these two places' disappearance. I would also theorise that it wasn't confined to Earth either. As many people accept these days, Mars was once in a condition that supported life. Orbital probes have mapped and photographed what appear to be artificial structures and huge river and sea beds. For them to be in the condition they are (recognisable in other words) it's impossible to say that the calamity that destroyed the martian magnetic field and most of it's atmosphere occured millions of years ago, as the traditional and rather old, official scientific line postulates. The time scale is far more likely to have been in the last few THOUSAND years instead. Indeed, spectroscopic methods have discovered rock formations on martian "sea beds" that could only have been covered by water in recent geological history. This would place the martian planetary holocaust at around the same time as the Lemuria/Atlantis one. (Geologically recent could mean 10,000 years, as opposed to 10,000,000 years!)
If you accept (questionable I know) that the Atlantis/Lemuria scenario is true, then it would indicate that following their destruction the ancient civilisations emerged as a result of their survivors starting again. The official cradle of "civillisation" is regarded to be Sumer in the region of the near and middle east, that is currently occupied by Iraq,Iran and Afghanistan. But at around the same time geologically speaking civilisations were emerging in the Indus Vally, Egypt and central and south America. The ancient records of these peoples (at least the ones that were'nt destroyed by the European immigrants) all indicate a common source. A now vanished civillisation that disappeared in a global catastrophy and was inspired by "the gods". Like Atlantis and Lemuria, the Egyptian,Indus Valley, Mayan etc civilisations emerged with a bang, at the peak of their evolution and then declined into obscurity. When this happend a lot of their secrets in all sorts of sciences were lost.
Our colonial forebearers have a lot to answer for. Civilisations like Egypt had access to a hell of a lot more technology and information than we do. Consider the pyramids on the Giza plateau for instance. The Great Pyramid alone is about 500 feet high, has approximatley 6,500,000 tons (imperial, not metric) of stone in it and something like 2,500,000 individual stone blocks in it. Most weigh around 70 tons, some are as heavy as 200 tons and a handful weigh 468 tons! These blocks were so pefectly cut and fitted together than even now, millenia after their construction, you cannot fit a sheet of paper between them! There is enough stone in the Great Pyramid alone to build the Empire State Building 30 times over and enough stone on the whole plateau of Giza to build a 3 meter high, 1 meter thick wall right round the border of France! Now apparently the people who did this were less technically advanced than we are. The words willy and lampost spring to mind again.
🙂p) The version of their construction that we are given is that thousands of slaves were used and the Egyptians constructed earthen ramps to roll the blocks up to their place in the building. Excuse me? This sort of work is the construction of master craftsmen, not driven labour and certainly not bloody earthen ramps! Can you imagine how much earth would need to be shifted just to build one side? All in all you'd need god knows how many times more than the stone that was used! Going along the lines that we are given by "science", it would have taken centuries just to build one of the bastards!
To go even further on the subject of lost knowledge that isn't lost at all, it's just witheld, consider a place in Lebanon called Baalbeck. There are structures there thousands of years old and three of them (known collectivley as the Trilithon) weigh 800 tons EACH! These chunks of stone were moved at least a third of a mile and one of them was hoisted 20 FEET IN THE AIR and fitted into a wall. Another chunk nearby weighs 800 tons, which roughly equates to the weight of 3 Boeing 747's. Once again, we are asked by conventional science and historians to believe that a primitive people did this. In Peru in South America there are ancient temples and sites built with rocks weighing 440 tons in places and at a place called Tiahuanaco there are structures made of 100 ton blocks that are pinned together with METAL CLAMPS!!!!!
Since these miracles of architecture, there have been no major ELE's on Earth. There have been no global holocausts. What there have been are repeated rapings of the ancient world where so-called civilisation has systematically destroyed their records and lessons. The biggest one of all that I can think of right now is the destruction of the Great Library Of Alexandria. Countless priceless book and scripts were lost in that, but do you really think they were annihalated or all time? Like bollocks they were. The science and knowledge of the alleged lands of Lemuria and Atlantis are alive and well, but you won't see it published in any public architecture manuals.
Loads of the things that science lusts after these days are already known, but won't be in the public domain, because they give too much power away. The science is known to turn barren deserts like the Kalahari and the Sahara into verdant crop lands, by manipulating the magnetic fields of the plants and using cold-fusion moisture vaporators. This would solve, or at least partially solve the massive hunger problems in Africa would'nt it. As things stand, what farm land they do have is full of cocoa beans for the west's chocolate industry. Name something that you'd like to see be discovered by "science" and there's a damn good chance it already exists. Cold-fusion, unlimited energy that'd put an end to utility bills, a cure for a lot of fatal diseases including Aquired Immuno Deficiency Sydrome and cancer. It's known! Why isn't it in the public domain? Because the drug companies earn too much money by flogging shit drugs that kill more patients than they can cure.
Phew.......
I'm slightly knackered after all that and I did get slightly off topic. I tried to explain what I knew of Lemuria and Atlantis and work into it the hidden knowledge of the Illuminate that this thread was supposed to be about. IF there's anything else that anyone wants to hear me rant about
🙂p) then ask about it.
