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2 things I'm tired of in tickling clips
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SoleAction
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I am following the discussion with great pleasure !!
Adults who are really interested in tickling and its media implementation are joining in here.
I left the " tmf-chat" after a few short visits. It is a fast-food conversation, typical for today's youth, mainly about tv, film and food.
A chat for active ticklers would be very exciting, where tips and experiences are exchanged and where all's about our topic.
Adults who are really interested in tickling and its media implementation are joining in here.
I left the " tmf-chat" after a few short visits. It is a fast-food conversation, typical for today's youth, mainly about tv, film and food.
A chat for active ticklers would be very exciting, where tips and experiences are exchanged and where all's about our topic.
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I have found over the years that the most popular length by far is definitely between 6 and 8 minutes. I produce longer clips on occasion, but I prefer the shorter ones, not just as a producer, but as a consumer of tickling media. I have also always gone out of my way to price my clips as low as C4S will allow me to
SoleMates
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You are vastly over-estimating how much time it takes to film and produce a clip, as well as under-estimating how much footage you can get out of a shoot.
None of us are rich, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
I love how so much of the bitching about this industry is based on total fabrications randomly pulled out of someone's ass, especially given how often producers come on here and try to set the record straight. In one ear and out the ass.
Whenever I have called them I get what I'm after.
SoleMates, I realize you probably aren't very rich. I don't know that I've seen a lot of your material. You don't ring a bell in my mind of being a major producer. But I will ask if paying a model 300 or more, buying cameras, bondage furniture, etc. that all will cost thousands at the end of the day isn't doing very well for yourself, then what is? When I mean rich I mean pulling in at least 200k in Minnesota's metro area, or having several millions of dollars either inherited, won, or worked very hard for.
I am well aware that on a salary of 100k it would be possible to become a producer, but isn't super easy. For me rent is 1350 and I doubt my landlord would appreciate me shooting pornos out of their building, which means I'd be better off a homeowner, which in the Minnesota metro is going to run you more than 1350. So unless you're married and she's willing to go along with the lifestyle, so that you can split that home payment amount in half you will need more than the 70k I make to be able to be a producer. 70k is the median salary in Minnesota's metro area. Now also assuming you have a college loan or a health problem as I do and you also want to be able to retire comfortably someday and still be a producer who lives in a house? I'm guessing that's 125k minimum.
I'm not a 25 year old kid who's only lived in my mom's basement and has no idea what things cost and thus pulls things out of his ass as you say.
I will spell it out more for you. On 70k I can afford my college loan, rent, going out to eat (McDonald's, not a nice place) 2-3 times per week, put 3k into my 401k, and pay my doctor 3k a year for Botox injections to keep my dystonia under control. You know how much I have left out of that 70k? Obviously not 10k or I'd be putting 13k into my 401k.
To buy a house here I'd probably need another 300-400 for all the things that go into homeownership and if I want a solid retirement I'm going to need way more than 3k per year into my 401k. Try more like 15k. There's no way I'm having the lifestyle I want for anything under 100k and then producing porno?
Again I'm pretty sure I looked into cameras and they are a few hundred to potentially thousands if you want some high end stuff. Bondage furniture unless you just use your bed? Again a few thousand, unless you're handy and can make it yourself. Then to be Silver Cherry and shoot like 12 times a year, 3600+ at 300 each, but Tommy at Tickle Abuse who put out a few clips per week? Easily tens of thousands.
Hence despite what your situation might be, I'm pretty sure from the looks of it that Tommy was in NYC where apartments are thousands a month. That would put him in the top 1% of people here in Minnesota. Hence rich. You're not going to convince me unless he shows me his bank account during the time period 2006-2016 when he was active.
I am well aware that on a salary of 100k it would be possible to become a producer, but isn't super easy. For me rent is 1350 and I doubt my landlord would appreciate me shooting pornos out of their building, which means I'd be better off a homeowner, which in the Minnesota metro is going to run you more than 1350. So unless you're married and she's willing to go along with the lifestyle, so that you can split that home payment amount in half you will need more than the 70k I make to be able to be a producer. 70k is the median salary in Minnesota's metro area. Now also assuming you have a college loan or a health problem as I do and you also want to be able to retire comfortably someday and still be a producer who lives in a house? I'm guessing that's 125k minimum.
I'm not a 25 year old kid who's only lived in my mom's basement and has no idea what things cost and thus pulls things out of his ass as you say.
I will spell it out more for you. On 70k I can afford my college loan, rent, going out to eat (McDonald's, not a nice place) 2-3 times per week, put 3k into my 401k, and pay my doctor 3k a year for Botox injections to keep my dystonia under control. You know how much I have left out of that 70k? Obviously not 10k or I'd be putting 13k into my 401k.
To buy a house here I'd probably need another 300-400 for all the things that go into homeownership and if I want a solid retirement I'm going to need way more than 3k per year into my 401k. Try more like 15k. There's no way I'm having the lifestyle I want for anything under 100k and then producing porno?
Again I'm pretty sure I looked into cameras and they are a few hundred to potentially thousands if you want some high end stuff. Bondage furniture unless you just use your bed? Again a few thousand, unless you're handy and can make it yourself. Then to be Silver Cherry and shoot like 12 times a year, 3600+ at 300 each, but Tommy at Tickle Abuse who put out a few clips per week? Easily tens of thousands.
Hence despite what your situation might be, I'm pretty sure from the looks of it that Tommy was in NYC where apartments are thousands a month. That would put him in the top 1% of people here in Minnesota. Hence rich. You're not going to convince me unless he shows me his bank account during the time period 2006-2016 when he was active.
2-3 years ago the number 1 tickling studio on c4s was making 15 - 16k monthly out of c4s. Said studio is working as a team so it is split.
Best solo studios should be around 12 k. But it falls down dramatically for lesser known studios
Of course the highest grossing studios have higher costs because they produce more. The "Richest" producers you will find are the ones that are high in c4s ranking with very few releases, they are basically living off their previous work (and worked hard for it)
Best solo studios should be around 12 k. But it falls down dramatically for lesser known studios
Of course the highest grossing studios have higher costs because they produce more. The "Richest" producers you will find are the ones that are high in c4s ranking with very few releases, they are basically living off their previous work (and worked hard for it)
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And I think every studio started modestly and filmed with whatever they have.
I started at my parent's, check the old videos of every one.
Your landlord has nothing to know or say about what you are doing in your apartment.
The cost of entry is now quite low, if you don't want to film with a phone you can grab a capable camera for 1000 USD.
The real cost of producing videos is a loss of privacy, be dependent on platforms and this kind of things. Not as easy as it seems and you cannot really pay to win.
I started at my parent's, check the old videos of every one.
Your landlord has nothing to know or say about what you are doing in your apartment.
The cost of entry is now quite low, if you don't want to film with a phone you can grab a capable camera for 1000 USD.
The real cost of producing videos is a loss of privacy, be dependent on platforms and this kind of things. Not as easy as it seems and you cannot really pay to win.
I think that people underestimate the difficulty in making content, as basic as this can appear, and overestimate what the creators are earning from it. I bet that if their income and expenses were publicly shared, 99% of them are in the negative - but it isn't because people don't want access to the videos - it is because they do want access, and do view them, without paying.
Whats ironic about it all is that most of these complaints would be solvable if the creators were actually earning money for their effort. They could afford to pay their models more ( and in process find more potential models ), They could potentially charge a lot less ( as a sizable number of people would be purchasing rather than a few and the rest pirating), they could be much more selective in what they release ( not simply using every shoot, even with poor quality content, trying to up-sell subpar material, because they hope to scrape their costs back over the next 10 years ), they could afford better equipment, and better space for higher quality production, and invest more personal time in overall developing their skills, and creativity, that go into their contents.
Instead, most people take the content for free, from many years back, while complaining that it isn't good enough for them.
With the way things are now - the proliferation of pirating and posting these niche contents everywhere, moving it from tickling niche and into other realms, and basically all of the above, I don't see how anyone can even want to create content to make publicly available, or share it in general.
Whats ironic about it all is that most of these complaints would be solvable if the creators were actually earning money for their effort. They could afford to pay their models more ( and in process find more potential models ), They could potentially charge a lot less ( as a sizable number of people would be purchasing rather than a few and the rest pirating), they could be much more selective in what they release ( not simply using every shoot, even with poor quality content, trying to up-sell subpar material, because they hope to scrape their costs back over the next 10 years ), they could afford better equipment, and better space for higher quality production, and invest more personal time in overall developing their skills, and creativity, that go into their contents.
Instead, most people take the content for free, from many years back, while complaining that it isn't good enough for them.
With the way things are now - the proliferation of pirating and posting these niche contents everywhere, moving it from tickling niche and into other realms, and basically all of the above, I don't see how anyone can even want to create content to make publicly available, or share it in general.
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Well, you have to pay to play. And from the amount of clips Tommy was putting out in TickleAbuse's heyday plus the many models he had, he had the funds to do so...
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I'm tired of fake laughter and to much talking by the ler
Some landlords may have issues with neighboors complaining about the howling laughter coming from the apartment... ;0)
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After 5 times, they couldn't do anything different enough to cause me to want to see her again. You can get tickled only so many different ways bud. Lol
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Yes the landlord does and will have a whole lot to say about what he or anybody else does in that house/apartment/castle/tent/or card board box. Lol smh
Your not wrong,
Before I post this I would like to be clear about something. I'm not looking to get into a battle of words with anyone my feelings about the state of the tickling business is what I'm going to express here in this post everyone has a right to their opinion and you can agree with me or disagree and you can post your opinion here on this post but I am not looking to get into a battle of words were things can get ugly.
I was spending anywhere from $30 to $50 a month on clip stores or websites about 18 months to 2 years ago now I'm barely spending $30 to $50 a year. This is alarming as a consumer that tells me something's wrong with the product it just seems like most clip stores about 90% of them just strap a girl to a bed or in the stocks and tickles her there's no reason there's no plot there's no storyline there's no fantasy involved everything that used to be what sold in the past it just seems like everyone is just doing the same clip just using a different model same stocks will just put a new model in it and then if you end of the day you spend your money and then you say to yourself what did I spend my money on I got this clip the last time just a different model.
Some problems I have ran into:
I have had one clip store email me and expressed how they miss my business, I haven't bought any clips in quite some time, my reply was your not doing anything I like anymore they returned an email asking me what I like their follow up email after I sent them an email letting them know what I like and what I used to buy from their clip store basically was yes we're not doing clips like that anymore hopefully we will get your business in the future well my immediate thought is you're not gonna do what I like I'm pretty sure you're not gonna get my business in the future.
Another clip store sent out a mass email to all its customers seemingly (there was a good handful of emails addresses) expressing their thoughts on getting feedback from all of their customers on ideas and things that they can do in the future to keep their clip store fresh and keeping the customer's interest in the product after about a couple of months or so that same clip store email all those mass emails and expressed how overwhelming the feed back was and are not sure if we're going to be able to honor all of your request and ideas, here again you have to take a step back and say to yourself well you reached out to us that clip store is out of business now.
For me I may be part of the minority of the members here TMF I want a plot, a storyline you know give me the MILF college professor who's being tickled by the sorority girls or even better yet the sorority hazing tickling the the roommate who's upset with her other roommate for flirting with her boyfriend whatever the ideas and the plots could be endless again I may be a part of the minority I don't know.
I don't understand for the life of me why clip stores use men as a tickler or Especially as a ticklee if you've noticed and I could be the only one that noticed this when you watch a clip store that uses a male tickler it's a guy that usually looks overweight disheveled and it just looks like he's getting his jollies by tickling a female it's not a turn on for me I'd like to think that I'm not alone in that thought process.
Now I've had clip stores reach out to me and say Hey if you don't like what we're doing we can do a custom OK great they send you or they advertise a list of models I choose the model I want to be a ticklee, they tell me all she doesn't like being a ticklee OK then why she listed as a model for a custom clip under tickling it doesn't add up. I have no problem spending whatever a custom clip cost but when I don't get the clip or when I do send the storyline or plot I want I don't expect to be told we don't use that girl or we don't do that plot or storyline.
Again this is all just my opinion if you agree with me great if you disagree with me that's OK to, either way if you wanna voice your opinion on this post that's fine but I don't wanna get into a back-and-forth mudslinging ugly argument with anyone. I'm just trying to get the websites and clip stores Taking care of what's best for the customer.
Thank you,
LBFT
Before I post this I would like to be clear about something. I'm not looking to get into a battle of words with anyone my feelings about the state of the tickling business is what I'm going to express here in this post everyone has a right to their opinion and you can agree with me or disagree and you can post your opinion here on this post but I am not looking to get into a battle of words were things can get ugly.
I was spending anywhere from $30 to $50 a month on clip stores or websites about 18 months to 2 years ago now I'm barely spending $30 to $50 a year. This is alarming as a consumer that tells me something's wrong with the product it just seems like most clip stores about 90% of them just strap a girl to a bed or in the stocks and tickles her there's no reason there's no plot there's no storyline there's no fantasy involved everything that used to be what sold in the past it just seems like everyone is just doing the same clip just using a different model same stocks will just put a new model in it and then if you end of the day you spend your money and then you say to yourself what did I spend my money on I got this clip the last time just a different model.
Some problems I have ran into:
I have had one clip store email me and expressed how they miss my business, I haven't bought any clips in quite some time, my reply was your not doing anything I like anymore they returned an email asking me what I like their follow up email after I sent them an email letting them know what I like and what I used to buy from their clip store basically was yes we're not doing clips like that anymore hopefully we will get your business in the future well my immediate thought is you're not gonna do what I like I'm pretty sure you're not gonna get my business in the future.
Another clip store sent out a mass email to all its customers seemingly (there was a good handful of emails addresses) expressing their thoughts on getting feedback from all of their customers on ideas and things that they can do in the future to keep their clip store fresh and keeping the customer's interest in the product after about a couple of months or so that same clip store email all those mass emails and expressed how overwhelming the feed back was and are not sure if we're going to be able to honor all of your request and ideas, here again you have to take a step back and say to yourself well you reached out to us that clip store is out of business now.
For me I may be part of the minority of the members here TMF I want a plot, a storyline you know give me the MILF college professor who's being tickled by the sorority girls or even better yet the sorority hazing tickling the the roommate who's upset with her other roommate for flirting with her boyfriend whatever the ideas and the plots could be endless again I may be a part of the minority I don't know.
I don't understand for the life of me why clip stores use men as a tickler or Especially as a ticklee if you've noticed and I could be the only one that noticed this when you watch a clip store that uses a male tickler it's a guy that usually looks overweight disheveled and it just looks like he's getting his jollies by tickling a female it's not a turn on for me I'd like to think that I'm not alone in that thought process.
Now I've had clip stores reach out to me and say Hey if you don't like what we're doing we can do a custom OK great they send you or they advertise a list of models I choose the model I want to be a ticklee, they tell me all she doesn't like being a ticklee OK then why she listed as a model for a custom clip under tickling it doesn't add up. I have no problem spending whatever a custom clip cost but when I don't get the clip or when I do send the storyline or plot I want I don't expect to be told we don't use that girl or we don't do that plot or storyline.
Again this is all just my opinion if you agree with me great if you disagree with me that's OK to, either way if you wanna voice your opinion on this post that's fine but I don't wanna get into a back-and-forth mudslinging ugly argument with anyone. I'm just trying to get the websites and clip stores Taking care of what's best for the customer.
Thank you,
LBFT
