-
If you would like to get your account Verified, read this thread -
Check out Tickling.com - the most innovative tickling site of the year. -
The TMF is sponsored by Clips4sale - By supporting them, you're supporting us. -
>>> If you cannot get into your account email me at [email protected] <<<
Don't forget to include your username
A question about the "black belt" of tickling.
- Thread starter BigJim
- Start date
Re: i love history
It's not so mucht the EU (or the EEC that WE WERE TOLD we were joining) that we're against as it is the sweeping, un-elected, stinkingly socialist,bureaucratic, thieving, dictatorial, over-paid, under-worked, sneaking-in-the-back-door, turd strangling bunch of bastards who currently tell us how to run our country from Brussels. And when we feel like having the temerity to govern ourselves, they hit us with massive fines and ban our products. Of course they can't be arsed to enforce the rules of fairness when it's Britain who's being taken roughly from behind. Spanish fisherman raid our stocks with impunity, the Frogs laugh heartily while cheerfully peddling their illegal immigrants onto us through that stinking tunnel, and then they have the GOD-DAMNED GALL to tell us how long our frigging bananas have to be and that we can't sell them in pounds and ounces and only in kilogrammes. Any market trader who has the temerity to keep his old measures is penalised by having his scales confiscated, his trading license revoked and hit with a fine big enough to solve the african famine problem. (Providing their communist leaders don't steal the money first and buy guns with it, like they have been for the past 30 years of course!)
The single currency is yet another step along the road to mash all the member states into one huge, unrecognisable lump with a single currency, a single court, a single police force and a single army.
Still, I don't have a personal beef against Germany. After all their armed forces did very well in the Gulf didn't they? And they had to sell their germ warfare factories to someone.
Incidentally Hal, this rant of mine isn't meant as a personal slight at you. It's a growing feeling of frustration that many Brits have against not Germany, but the EU as a bureaucratic whole. A lot of people see Ted Heath the same way as Norweigans saw Quisling. It's not about being permantently at war with Europe, it's about wanting free trade and being sold down the river into a pseudo-communist state who is dictating to us, how to run our own affairs. I know I've critiscised your country a lot, but please don't take this as an insult directed at you.
*Big Jim leaps off his soapbox and goes off to watch THAT EPISODE of Fawlty Towers again*
areenactor said:
It's not so mucht the EU (or the EEC that WE WERE TOLD we were joining) that we're against as it is the sweeping, un-elected, stinkingly socialist,bureaucratic, thieving, dictatorial, over-paid, under-worked, sneaking-in-the-back-door, turd strangling bunch of bastards who currently tell us how to run our country from Brussels. And when we feel like having the temerity to govern ourselves, they hit us with massive fines and ban our products. Of course they can't be arsed to enforce the rules of fairness when it's Britain who's being taken roughly from behind. Spanish fisherman raid our stocks with impunity, the Frogs laugh heartily while cheerfully peddling their illegal immigrants onto us through that stinking tunnel, and then they have the GOD-DAMNED GALL to tell us how long our frigging bananas have to be and that we can't sell them in pounds and ounces and only in kilogrammes. Any market trader who has the temerity to keep his old measures is penalised by having his scales confiscated, his trading license revoked and hit with a fine big enough to solve the african famine problem. (Providing their communist leaders don't steal the money first and buy guns with it, like they have been for the past 30 years of course!)
The single currency is yet another step along the road to mash all the member states into one huge, unrecognisable lump with a single currency, a single court, a single police force and a single army.
Still, I don't have a personal beef against Germany. After all their armed forces did very well in the Gulf didn't they? And they had to sell their germ warfare factories to someone.
Incidentally Hal, this rant of mine isn't meant as a personal slight at you. It's a growing feeling of frustration that many Brits have against not Germany, but the EU as a bureaucratic whole. A lot of people see Ted Heath the same way as Norweigans saw Quisling. It's not about being permantently at war with Europe, it's about wanting free trade and being sold down the river into a pseudo-communist state who is dictating to us, how to run our own affairs. I know I've critiscised your country a lot, but please don't take this as an insult directed at you.
*Big Jim leaps off his soapbox and goes off to watch THAT EPISODE of Fawlty Towers again*
D
Deleted member 2452
Guest
i'm sure hal will corect me if i'm wrong
(and i won't mind)but i didn't think the germans sent anyone to the gulf war? the arguement at the time was that their "constitution" forbade them from sending military forces out side their own borders.
if i'm mistaken, please let me know what forces they fielded?
jim, i feel for you, and all my other cousins in briton. with bed mates like the french, and spain, i don't think i'd ever sleep!
why not get a movment started to pull out of the e.u.? it's not like you're alone in your feelings. and you sound justified!
steve
(and i won't mind)but i didn't think the germans sent anyone to the gulf war? the arguement at the time was that their "constitution" forbade them from sending military forces out side their own borders.
if i'm mistaken, please let me know what forces they fielded?
jim, i feel for you, and all my other cousins in briton. with bed mates like the french, and spain, i don't think i'd ever sleep!
why not get a movment started to pull out of the e.u.? it's not like you're alone in your feelings. and you sound justified!
steve
Haltickling
2nd Level Green Feather
- Joined
- Apr 3, 2001
- Messages
- 4,353
- Points
- 0
Jim, just a few remarks:
1) However deep your grunt against the EU may be, Britain is still one of the countries who receive more money from the EU till than they pay; Germany is one of those who have to pay MUCH more than they get back, and still there are advantages for our economy. Doesn't that make you think?
2) Your beef export hasn't been denied because your meat was sold in lbs and oz, but because BSE (the mad-cow-disease) hat its origin in Britain.
3) German troops didn't participate in the Gulf War. We contributed with our checkbooks, and by relieving US troops in the Mediterranean for other tasks.
4) I agree that Brussels over-regulates sometimes, like in the banana case. But any administration is ruled by bureaucrats. Have you ever watched 'Yes, Minister'? 😉
1) However deep your grunt against the EU may be, Britain is still one of the countries who receive more money from the EU till than they pay; Germany is one of those who have to pay MUCH more than they get back, and still there are advantages for our economy. Doesn't that make you think?
2) Your beef export hasn't been denied because your meat was sold in lbs and oz, but because BSE (the mad-cow-disease) hat its origin in Britain.
3) German troops didn't participate in the Gulf War. We contributed with our checkbooks, and by relieving US troops in the Mediterranean for other tasks.
4) I agree that Brussels over-regulates sometimes, like in the banana case. But any administration is ruled by bureaucrats. Have you ever watched 'Yes, Minister'? 😉
Re: i'm sure hal will corect me if i'm wrong
That's the point Steve, they didn't send anyone. They did deploy a few in the Med because a few brigades of yanks were freed up by it, but none went to the actual theatre.
And EUUUEEEEEEERRRRRGHHHHHH............the thought of jumping into bed with a frog makes me shiver.LOL (Unless it was a ticklish girl of course!
)
areenactor said:
That's the point Steve, they didn't send anyone. They did deploy a few in the Med because a few brigades of yanks were freed up by it, but none went to the actual theatre.
And EUUUEEEEEEERRRRRGHHHHHH............the thought of jumping into bed with a frog makes me shiver.LOL (Unless it was a ticklish girl of course!
)Haltickling said:
1/Receive more money? When the monthly payout is nearly £500,000,000? The main reason that the EU is so desperate to have us in that joke of a single currency is because it desperatley needs the British economy to stop their wonderful project from sinking like the Titanic.The only reason we've got the shakes at the moment is because of the slow-down across the pond. As they say, America is so big and powerful that when it sneezes the whole world catches a cold.
2/Good point about BSE, indeed it did originate in Britain. But isn't it strange that the EU resouloutley refuses to penalise the French for imposing an ILLEGAL ban on our product, when we've only got to fart out of line and the roof falls on us?
3/Wasn't that more to do with the government of Germany being desperate to hold onto stability within it's own borders? It was so terrified of being hammered from within it had no choice.There was way to much opposition to their boys being sent overseas to an active theatre of war. In fact I seem to remember a lot of opinion saying that it was going to be "another Vietnam" and that it doomed.
4/ Oddly enough I'm no great fan of democracy. I would'nt care if the Queen was the absoloute ruler of Britain, so long as she respected personal freedoms and was halfway efficient at her job. However the EU is a petty-minded joke. I don't care about whether there's a beurocracy per se, so long as it isn't wasteful, pointless, self appointed and totally overiding. (Which the EU and it's bunch of numpties patently is.
I heard a remark that a member of the German public made to a news program once. She/he said that.........
"I am sick and tired of these island monkeys playing up so much. It's about time they were kicked out of the union!"
Well the next time I'm in Europe I want to buy this person a schnappes. That is most logical and sensible thing I've ever heard someone say about politics.
Haltickling
2nd Level Green Feather
- Joined
- Apr 3, 2001
- Messages
- 4,353
- Points
- 0
Jim, quite obviously your information is incomplete, incorrect, and lopsided. I won't go into details, that would just bore the others.
The comment from a 'member from the German public' sounds more like from 'a primitive guest at a German pub'. If any real member of the German public society would dare to say this (let alone the rude language!), they wouldn't stay very 'public' much longer. Except if this person was a Neo-Nazi, of course. Again, a lopsided info.
I'll get out of this discussion now, because it frustrates me to see so much ignorance.
The comment from a 'member from the German public' sounds more like from 'a primitive guest at a German pub'. If any real member of the German public society would dare to say this (let alone the rude language!), they wouldn't stay very 'public' much longer. Except if this person was a Neo-Nazi, of course. Again, a lopsided info.
I'll get out of this discussion now, because it frustrates me to see so much ignorance.
Haltickling said:
Which parts are lop-sided? The bit about the UK joining the Euro? The bit about the French illegally banning our beef and having a disgrace of a refugee camp right by the chunnel? Was it the bit about the massive opposition in Germany to sending troops to the Gulf? Or did you not like my crack about being no fan of democracy? (The crack the German chap/chapess made was reported on CNN, so it wasn't a British distortion if it was one.)
I might also add that it would'nt bore me and the others don't have to read it if they don't want to. I'll also add that it frustrates me to see such intansigence and unwillingness to debate. If I bent you that much outta shape Hal, give me a broadside back. I don't mean insult me or swear at me, but for God's sake don't throw your rattle out the pram and go and suck your thumb in the corner.
Ticklish9's
2nd Level Red Feather
- Joined
- Oct 12, 2001
- Messages
- 1,265
- Points
- 0
Ireland Rocks!
Just thought that needed to be said...ever since I was a kid, England has been "the enemy" in some vague sense. Lol. But I still like y'all Brits. I'll like you even more once you let my cousins and uncles out of jail. 😉
Just thought that needed to be said...ever since I was a kid, England has been "the enemy" in some vague sense. Lol. But I still like y'all Brits. I'll like you even more once you let my cousins and uncles out of jail. 😉
D
Deleted member 2452
Guest
oh, t-niner don't go there!
please babe, let's not start on the ira thing in here. my family started out in scotland, and on the way to america had a 200 year pit stop in nothern irland. they never married with the irish, they stuck to other members of the clans that they were part of. to his dying day my grandfather never had any use for the irish, lol
hal, i for one am far from bored by this discussion. please enlighten us. i'm now going to do some quick research so i can inteligently add to the debate.
steve
please babe, let's not start on the ira thing in here. my family started out in scotland, and on the way to america had a 200 year pit stop in nothern irland. they never married with the irish, they stuck to other members of the clans that they were part of. to his dying day my grandfather never had any use for the irish, lol
hal, i for one am far from bored by this discussion. please enlighten us. i'm now going to do some quick research so i can inteligently add to the debate.
steve
