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ah another depression?

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is the US headed for another depression? Bush making a primetime speech on the economy..major corporations declaring bankruptcy...Congress in emergency sessions...are we headed down a long road to recession? also running out of gas???

and what's with McCain wanting to postpone a debate with Obama set for tomorrow night? shouldn't we hear what they both have to say over this potential catastrophe in the making?
 
Well, McCain and Obama are both still sitting senators. They still have a day job in addition to moonlighting as Presidential candidates.

Personally, I think they should stop, go DEAL with the mess rather than say how they will deal with it as President. President has little power for this one. the real juice on stuff like this is in the House and Senate. You know, where these two jokers are currently employed 🙄.

Personally I can't see why ANYONE would want the job at this point. I sure as crap wouldn't. You couldn't draft me into that gig at this point.

I think they're both nuts.

CJ
 
Personally, I think we are on the edge of the proverbial cliff, if not already taken a swan dive, into a depression. I hate to say it, but I think it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
 
You will live it through... it will be a bumpy ride, but you will live it through unlike us 🙂
 
Personally, I think we are on the edge of the proverbial cliff, if not already taken a swan dive, into a depression. I hate to say it, but I think it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

yes i'm afraid you are right..they are already suggesting that we get our debts paid off if possible..credit cards etc..and making sure retirement funds are safe still i think...and also, invest in metal..

thank goodness we only have one credit card and i pay it in full every month..
 
I do believe that's where we are headed if something isn't done,but I believe this country should find a way to run itself without money.
 
lol QueenBee nice suggestion but how on earth would a country be run then??? lol...
 
lol QueenBee nice suggestion but how on earth would a country be run then??? lol...

There's only one possible solution, but it's idealistic communism. And like they say, it's a nice idea, but it's about as impractical as you can get in this world.
 
There's only one possible solution, but it's idealistic communism. And like they say, it's a nice idea, but it's about as impractical as you can get in this world.

It IS a nice idea, on paper. The problem comes with the innate, human compulsion known as greed. If every human being on the planet was NOT greedy, then Communism would be the best for of government imaginable. Unfortunately, if all the money was coming to you and there were no strings attached... Well, let's just say we'll never achieve purity so long as the human race continues to be greedy...
 
^ so true...it's like saying Peace on Earth good will to Men...that will never happen...too bad...
 
This guy has a few choice words about the current situation. This guy did too, albeit 2 years ago.

Personally, I think that it's time to buy a cabin in the woods of Montana and spend the next 20 years in seclusion, writing barely-comprehensible political manifestos.
 
For an excellent layman's explanation of what is going and and what needs to be done, go to Dave Ramsey's website www. dave ramsey .com (remove the spaces).

Personally, I don't want the 'bailout' to even happen. Why should the taxpayers that are doing the right thing (staying out of debt, not spending more than we make) have to bail out IDIOT investors that invested in IDIOT banks that gave out IDIOT sub-prime loans for houses to IDIOT borrowers that took out loans that they could not afford to pay once they took out IDIOTIC adjustable rate mortagages? Why should I reward idiots for their behavior, thus not making all of them accountable for their lack of fiscal and economic knowledge?

Not me. Not this little grey duck. Let them go bankrupt. Let them realize that THEY are responsible for the consequences of their stupidity. In my son's 7th grade class, they are 'earning' salaries and able to buy homes, cars, etc. in a model economy. My son watched the kids act just like their parents and borrow left and right, overbuy on homes and cars. My son followed sound economic principles, such as Dave Ramsey's Total Money Makeover. Now, he and two other boys in his class own 94.4% of all the homes, all the utility companies, are 'debt-free', and he is worth $1 billion in their mock economy by using smart, sound money management. He's teaching HIS TEACHERS about money management! And he's only 13!!!

Yes, it will make times tough. But the U.S. economy will recover. The seeds sown by the past are popping up like the weeds they are. All we owe on right now is the house. It's time people learned to live on cash and not their credit limits. And that included the donkeys AND elephants in the Beltway acting like none of this is their fault...
 
Personally, I don't want the 'bailout' to even happen. Why should the taxpayers that are doing the right thing (staying out of debt, not spending more than we make) have to bail out IDIOT investors that invested in IDIOT banks that gave out IDIOT sub-prime loans for houses to IDIOT borrowers that took out loans that they could not afford to pay once they took out IDIOTIC adjustable rate mortagages? Why should I reward idiots for their behavior, thus not making all of them accountable for their lack of fiscal and economic knowledge?

Cynical lenders and gullible borrowers, a recipe for catastrophic failure. Bet those lenders were counting all along on taxpayers to re-line their pockets.

...It's time people learned to live on cash and not their credit limits. ...

It's one thing to go into debt to replace the hot water heater which blew up this morning. It's another to do so just in order to facilitate a round of "retail therapy"...

But seriously, the credit card companies have indulged in the indecently stupid behavior of cynically flinging out credit cards to anyone with a pulse and a mailbox, the idea being to hook these people into overspending and then bloodsucking them dry with usurious interest, fees, etc., ad nauseum. They're just as much to blame as the other "players".
 
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Basically an excerpt from Camel on another post; idealistically, if we all lived in a utopia world, communism. But, sadly that won't really work on a scale much bigger than best chances around two villages. The reason, every human being seems to have the innate desire of GREED. Getting as much, and more, than humanly possible for one's self. The credit card companies and practically every successful business, is merely taking advantage of that flaw, exploiting it to the greatest capacity available. :sad: It's sad. 🙁
 
Lol,umm sure everyone in America could just make it legal to print money and then nobody will be poor
 
Lol,umm sure everyone in America could just make it legal to print money and then nobody will be poor

...and then there would be no legal tender standard and all your printed paper would be printed paper of no value.

My plan is to be free from being a slave to any lender or bank (Proverbs 22:7 "...the borrower is servant (or slave) to the lender.). In 10 months we will be debt free except for the mortgage on the house, with an emergency fund of app. 6 months of net pay stashed in a money market account. (Baby Step #3 from Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University.)

As Dave says, "Being in debt is the norm, so 'be weird!" Other godo book resources are "The Richest Man in Babylon" and "The Millionaire Next Door." Read them and learn from their wisdom.

Credit cards are horrid, and we no longer have them, except for one that I use only for the trips I have to go on for my job, but only for what I get reimbursed for. After my Arizona trip in October, it goes hasta-la-bye-bye as well and I'll be cash only.
 
is the US headed for another depression? Bush making a primetime speech on the economy..major corporations declaring bankruptcy...Congress in emergency sessions...are we headed down a long road to recession? also running out of gas???

and what's with McCain wanting to postpone a debate with Obama set for tomorrow night? shouldn't we hear what they both have to say over this potential catastrophe in the making?

i believe the problem could be solved if we simply stopped pissing so much money into technology, and stopped trying to graph things and focus on how the hell we're gonna afford food. farmers have to put down loans so they can start preparing for the next harvest, and they can't for the most part.
 
i got two and half years left in the military and after that im out of this country before it goes to complete crap, dont get me wrong i love america but enough is enough
 
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