Censorship on the TMF?

[SuperTickler]

Interesting debate!

I think mabus has stated his case eloquently, and I agree 100% that the right of free speech isn't "relative" or conditional. However, that having been said, rules of civil discourse still apply. If you are a guest in someone's house, you are limited in your freedom of speech and behavior by what your host will tolerate. Cross the line and s/he has every right to eject you from the premises. Retail businesses, such as bars, display signs that read "We reserve the right to refuse service," and employ "bouncers" to toss out anyone who behaves in a rude, crude or unruly fashion.

I liken the TMF to being a guest in someone's house. Jeff provides the server, so I basically consider that I'm a guest in his residence. He has organized some allies--Myriads and the other mods--to help him maintain order. They are well within their rights to do this.

As for Foot Paradise, without again going over the gory/boring details, there has been some prior bad blood between Jeff and FP's proprietor due to some very nasty things about Jeff's business that were posted by her on another newsgroup. As a result, I've made the choice not to mention FP (except to perhaps respond to someone else's post) as a courtesy to our "host." I realize that he wouldn't necessarily require this type of behavior, but I do this out of respect to the fact that Jeff is allowing us into his "home."
😎

 

[Strelnikov]

Vote of Confidence

I think the Mods do a good job. It's not just an exercise of power. They have to wade through ALL posts, even the illiterate ones consisting of a single 1000 word run-on sentence. That demonstrates more patience and dedication than I have.

Keep up the good work. It's appreciated.

Strelnikov

 

[venray]

Re: Vote of Confidence

I think the Mods do a good job. It's not just an exercise of power. They have to wade through ALL posts, even the illiterate ones consisting of a single 1000 word run-on sentence. That demonstrates more patience and dedication than I have.

Keep up the good work. It's appreciated.

Strelnikov

A perfect example of this was at 4 am when a mysterious new member posted 8 posts in various forums trashing just about all of us in a personal manner.
He/she had posted in this very thread. My reply was "someone needs a good rest" By the time my respose was recorded one of our mods had already deleted 2 of his/her posts and proceded to take care of the culprit.

Hats off from me to all of the mods for doing what it takes to keep
the forum a fun place to interact. A lot of the time we do not see some of the things they have to do.

Ven

 

[CDFGA]

My 2c

I agree with Neutron (gasp!!) ...Who cares. But, I see people on here saying "I trust the moderators" and "They're doing such a good job" etc. but, how do we know the judgement was good if we can't see what was deleted? It's like conservative republican v/s liberal democrat. Conservatives tend to fend for themselves and don't want government intrusion, and liberals think the government should have a larger role in everyday life and have more control. I'll be honest, most forms of government scares me. Especially when it's methods are clandestine. (hence deleting posts before we all can read them.) My opinion is that no mods personal opinions should play a part in removing threads, only rule violations that were already established, and are up for public inspection. And no thread should ever be altered to change what was actually written by the author. My words, with "CDFGA" as the author is what I wrote, and if I read something later that I wrote, and it's been modified, then I feel violated. Wouldn't you? ......Just my 2c again.

 

[redway10]

My original point

My original point was not to question the ability of the moderators or their judgment. I was questioning whether the closing of the 'tickle palace' thread was a 'political' decision, rather than a 'quality' decision.

With the rareness that a thread on this forum is ever closed (even ones that just ramble way off topic and repeat themselves and include different levels of flaming), I questioned why that one was singled out, and came to the conclusion that it was for political reasons (i. e. stopping discussion on a 'sensitive' topic).

 

[evilqueen]

I agree that edits can leave members feeling that threads have been sanitized for their protection. However, maintaining a flame-free forum doesn't provide moderators many options. I would prefer to lock threads as a last-ditch effort so you could see for yourself what provoked the censorship.

I also agree that many threads go on too long, but that wasn't why I locked the TicklePalace thread. Discussion about Kujman/TicklePalace is, in and of itself, flamebait. People can't stop themselves from making edgy (flamebaiting) comments. And as Myriads says, it's TMF policy that people with vendor problems address them to the vendor. Political agenda? *sigh* Right. I'm just steeped in tickle politics.

But the main reason I locked that thread was that there was no news, and when there is no news to report on a topic, comments degenerate into rumour, gossip and accusations. Remember, gentlemen, I didn't say I would lock all threads about TicklePalace, only ones that don't provide news. If you can't find the loophole in that statement, lord help you. In any case, you aren't banned from discussing TicklePalace.

As for denying new members their opportunity to learn about our community, they can do as I did and read the threads starting all the way from the beginning of these forums almost a year ago. Go to the first page of a sub-forum and adjust your view settings at the bottom of the page.

evilqueen
more than an Over Moderator...an Uber Moderator

 

[qjakal]

EQ .. "uber"

Uber patient perhaps...lol....😉 Some things just DON'T need to be voted on....woohoo! Q

 

[Dave2112]

I think there may be some confusion between "Moderation" and "Censorship". There are very few things around here that are actually "Censored", and these are things we all agree on anyway...the use of children in stories, etc.

"Moderation" is simply editing or deleting posts on a case-by-case basis for the overall good of the community. On the one occasion where a Mod overstepped his bounds, he was removed. I have had a thread or two pulled myself, and I've always gotten an explanation.

I would much rather have this than a free-for-all around here, as I know many of us (myself included) wouldn't be here for long if this happened.

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[GuitarPeteTklr]

"Uber?" Hmmmm....

evilqueen
more than an Over Moderator...an Uber Moderator

Of course, I 😀 ,realizing that Evilqueen may not realize there is a TMF chatroom personality and/or member, likely of German descent, whose handle is "Uber." GuitarPeteTklr (et. al., I'm sure!) is hoping Uber will feel flattered by this reference, as I am sure there was nothing but benevolence and affection in Evilqueen's heart upon using that word in this context.😉 I am sure I speak for Evilqueen, Uber, when I say no offense was intended.😀

After all, many of us know that "uber" is the German word whose english equivalent is "over."

*GuitarPeteTklr coyly shreds his way back into tickling oblivion, with wishes that a ticklee proclaims she was pleasantly ""Uber" gekitzelt" today, (if I may be so bold as to advocate on your behalf, Uber) 😕 *

 

[DarkSoul]

im alittle late but I don'tlike cencership at all
people should have the right to post what they want
but moderters should be able to take control if the post gets out
of hand
just my opinion

 

[Krokus]

Well

I don't think that you should let anything keep you from saying what you want. Voice your opinion, and if anyone else has a problem with it, who cares?? You said what you wanted to say.....You were heard.

 

[toyou444]

All I want to know is what's at Area 51 and who "Deepthroat" really is....😀

Well...Deepthroat was really Linda Lovelace who had a hit movie back in the 70's 🙄 . And as for Area 51, well, I'm not supposed to tell anybody, but...*URK*


~ toyou

 

[Strelnikov]

"And as for Area 51, well, I'm not supposed to tell anybody, but...*URK* "
- toyou

"TRUST NO ONE."
- Strelnikov

 

[CitY of MicA]

Actually, Area 51 is just two doors down from Area 49. I can usually find it on my own, but sometimes it helps to show your ticket to the person working the aisles.

As for Deepthroat, you may find this hard to believe (and keep in mind that they're no longer as big a name as they were in the early 70s) but Deepthroat is none other than... *URK*

(crawls back to keyboard)

must type... must reveal name... B... @... %... *FINAL 'URK'*