Cheerleader must compensate school that told her to clap 'rapist'

[DontAskJusTckle]

He thinks it's okay for a rapist to be cheered on by the cheerleader that he "assaulted." He called her a "vindictive bitch" with no proof of such.

You called him a "rapist" with no proof of such. At least I admit my position is based on a theory. You shriek yours as though it's a given.

In his world, all women are vindictive bitches

Not at all. In my world most women are awesome. Of course, a glaring exception would be someone who enters a thread with no other purpose than to malign my character with outright lies and discourage others from engaging me in civil discussion.

he's a straight hater; no one for you to waste your valuable time with.

Wow. Now THAT is what I call vindictive! 😉

I tend to agree with Flatfoot. Sorry, DAJT but I don't think it's fair of you to assume guilt on her part. You're right that the rape was never fully established and it's kind of unfair to just assume it did. But your speculations are just as unfair and baseless, maybe more so. I think if he pled guilty to misdemeaner assault, chances are he raped her.

"Chances are"? And that's good enough for you? If I'm being unreasonable in my admittedly speculative hypothesis of what happened, how much more unreasonable is it to treat his alleged rape as though it were fact?

I'll say it again. In this country people are innocent until proven guilty. They are not presumed guilty until they are found guilty. He was never found guilty. The charges were dropped. That doesn't mean he couldn't have raped her, but until it's established that he did, the only fair and reasonable posture is to assume his innocence until proven otherwise.

This cheer leader can't reasonably expect to drop the rape charges and then expect special treatment for being "raped."

 

[kis123]

He called her a "vindictive bitch" with no proof of such. You called him a "rapist" with no proof of such. At least I admit my position is based on a theory. You shriek your as though it's a given.

Not at all. In my world most women are awesome. Of course, a glaring exception would be someone who enters a thread with no other purpose than to malign my character with outright lies and discourage others from engaging me in civil discussion.

Wow. Now THAT is what I call vindictive! 😉

Sounds like a case of one being able to dish it out but cries and lashes out in print tantrums when it comes time to take it. And there are post after post of proof of your "character"...nothing there to malign unless it's self-inflicted.

And if you call that vindictive, you best strengthen your spine because that was nothing. Then again, someone who mixes thread topics and requires pics of an unknown rape victim by comparing them to wanting pics of the death of an infamous "terrorist" as being the same.....well....some things just defy all human resources I guess. But I digress.........

The man was accused of rape.....I didn't accuse him, his victim did. Why it was pleaded down to assault...I don't know....maybe it was because he was the big man on campus athlete and she didn't have a snowball's chance in hell in getting a rape conviction. How did he catch the assault case if he didn't touch her? Yeah, right...the "vindictive bitch" made that up to huh?

Cmon' DAJT.......think fast! I'm counting on you to provide one of those classic standards you like to use. Don't disappoint me now.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

Sounds like a case of one being able to dish it out but cries and lashes out in print tantrums when it comes time to take it. And there are post after post of proof of your "character"...nothing there to malign unless it's self-inflicted.

Not at all. I was responding to your false allegation that I "think all women are vindictive bitches," when there are actually only one or two whom I find deserving of the label.

And if you call that vindictive, you best strengthen your spine because that was nothing.

Yes, I can see your propensity toward endless bitching and character assassination knows no bounds, but you're only kidding yourself if you think anything you say is of any consequence to me.

Then again, someone who mixes thread topics and requires pics of an unknown rape victim by comparing them to wanting pics of the death of an infamous "terrorist" as being the same.....well....some things just defy all human resources I guess. But I digress.........

To clarify, I asked you about the photo because you have gone on record as disbelieving something happened unless a photo was produced, despite official testimony that it indeed happened.

In this thread you are perfectly willing to believe something happened even with no photo, or any official corroboration. That strikes me as a blatantly hypocritical double standard, and one worth pointing out.

The man was accused of rape.....I didn't accuse him...

Yes, you most certainly did. Several times in fact:

The girl was raped!

She gets kicked off the cheerleading squad because she won't clap and cheer for her rapist!

Why not just bend her over and rape her again?

He thinks it's okay for a rapist to be cheered on by the cheerleader that he "assaulted."

You've not only accused him, you've tried and convicted him. So let's try and stick to the truth, shall we?

Why it was pleaded down to assault...I don't know....maybe it was because he was the big man on campus athlete and she didn't have a snowball's chance in hell in getting a rape conviction.

That's one possibility. Another equally plausible one is the scenario I presented to Flatfoot.

How did he catch the assault case if he didn't touch her? Yeah, right...the "vindictive bitch" made that up to huh?

In case you weren't aware, it's entirely within the realm of possibility for a man to assault a woman without raping her. Believe it or not, this happens all the time, especially with domestic disturbances.

Cmon' DAJT.......think fast! I'm counting on you to provide one of those classic standards you like to use. Don't disappoint me now.

Sure, I'll get right on it. Hey, you want fries with that?

 

[kis123]

Not at all. I was responding to your false allegation that I "think all women are vindictive bitches," when there are actually only one or two whom I find deserving of the label.

Yes, I can see your propensity toward endless bitching and character assassination knows no bounds, but you're only kidding yourself if you think anything you say is of any consequence to me.

To clarify, I asked you about the photo because you have gone on record as disbelieving something happened unless a photo was produced, despite official testimony that it indeed happened.

In this thread you are perfectly willing to believe something happened even with no photo, or any official corroboration. That strikes me as a blatantly hypocritical double standard, and one worth pointing out.

Yes, you most certainly did. Several times in fact:

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You've not only accused him, you've tried and convicted him. So let's try and stick to the truth, shall we?

That's one possibility. Another equally plausible one is the scenario I presented to Flatfoot.

In case you weren't aware, it's entirely within the realm of possibility for a man to assault a woman without raping her. Believe it or not, this happens all the time, especially with domestic disturbances.

Sure, I'll get right on it. Hey, you want fries with that?

*yawn*

I expected so much better from you; alas you come with your drivel. What am I supposed to do? Cry?

The fact that he touched her at all was wrong. The fact that she had to drop the rape charges doesn't mean she wasn't raped. It means she couldn't prove to a court of law that she was raped. That could be for many reasons including washing away DNA evidence in advance of a rape kit. If I'm a teenage girl and Mr. Jock athlete forces himself on me, I'd want to wash it off too.

Neither of us were there; unlike you, I don't pretend to have a solid answer to her court case.

Besides, this thread wasn't to determine whether she was raped or not. Nor is it to determine whether she was a "vindictive bitch." Just to remind you, it's about her getting sued for $45,000 from a school system that punished her from the very beginning with no attention paid to her "alleged" rapist. Hey expelling her from the cheerleading squad wasn't enough, let's countersue her too. She's a child; I understand her reasoning. But the school? That was no more than a message to her and those who'd be attacked by star athletes in the future; be quiet and play along or else!

Yeah, you're right; a frivolous lawsuit was filed......but not by her.

I'd pay them a dollar a week until she dies; as long as she's paying, they can't touch her.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

*yawn*

I expected so much better from you;

Catch many flies with that yawn? FYI, I'm not concerned with meeting your expectations. When you print lies about me, I'm going to challenge them. You can expect that.

alas you come with your drivel. What am I supposed to do? Cry?

I'm not here to tell you what to do, kis. Given your demeanor, I'm sure you have no shortage of people telling what to do or where to go. But when you accuse this guy of rape and then lie about having done so, yeah I'm going to challenge it.

The fact that he touched her at all was wrong.

A fact that nobody here has challenged. He committed the crime and was duly punished for it.

The fact that she had to drop the rape charges doesn't mean she wasn't raped.

But it does mean he's NOT GUILTY of rape, nor can his guilt be assumed just on her accusation, which is what you've done extensively in this thread.

It means she couldn't prove to a court of law that she was raped. That could be for many reasons including washing away DNA evidence in advance of a rape kit. If I'm a teenage girl and Mr. Jock athlete forces himself on me, I'd want to wash it off too.

That's one possibility. Another equally plausible explanation is the one I presented to Flatfoot.

Neither of us were there; unlike you, I don't pretend to have a solid answer to her court case.

Perhaps you've stopped pretending. But you certainly were pretending when you said these things...

The girl was raped!

She gets kicked off the cheerleading squad because she won't clap and cheer for her rapist!

Why not just bend her over and rape her again?

He thinks it's okay for a rapist to be cheered on by the cheerleader that he "assaulted."

That sounds to me like you've decided he's guilty.

Besides, this thread wasn't to determine whether she was raped or not. Nor is it to determine whether she was a "vindictive bitch." Just to remind you, it's about her getting sued for $45,000 from a school system that punished her from the very beginning with no attention paid to her "alleged" rapist. Hey expelling her from the cheerleading squad wasn't enough, let's countersue her too. She's a child; I understand her reasoning. But the school? That was no more than a message to her and those who'd be attacked by star athletes in the future; be quiet and play along or else!

Must be a really powerful school board to sway two local courts and a federal appeals court to also "play along."

Yeah, you're right; a frivolous lawsuit was filed......but not by her.

Well...by her and her parents, I'm assuming.

I'd pay them a dollar a week until she dies; as long as she's paying, they can't touch her.

They've already touched her. She is kicked off the cheerleading team. She lost the court battle and every subsequent appeal. She'll have this massive government debt looming over her head for the rest of her life. Buh bye good credit score and home buying eligibility.

 

[kis123]

Catch many flies with that yawn? FYI, I'm not concerned with meeting your expectations. When you print lies about me, I'm going to challenge them. You can expect that.

I'm not here to tell you what to do, kis. Given your demeanor, I'm sure you have no shortage of people telling what to do or where to go. But when you accuse this guy of rape and then lie about having done so, yeah I'm going to challenge it.

A fact that nobody here has challenged. He committed the crime and was duly punished for it.

But it does mean he's NOT GUILTY of rape, nor can his guilt be assumed just on her accusation, which is what you've done extensively in this thread.

That's one possibility. Another equally plausible explanation is the one I presented to Flatfoot.

Perhaps you've stopped pretending. But you certainly were pretending when you said these things...

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That sounds to me like you've decided he's guilty.

Must be a really powerful school board to sway two local courts and a federal appeals court to also "play along."

Well...by her and her parents, I'm assuming.

They've already touched her. She is kicked off the cheerleading team. She lost the court battle and every subsequent appeal. She'll have this massive government debt looming over her head for the rest of her life. Buh bye good credit score and home buying eligibility.

Are you really serious?

Yeah, I personally think the jock slob raped her, but for whatever reason, she was unable to prove it in court. Again I wasn't there, but I think she had a crap lawyer; a good one would've gotten a better conviction than assault. But he's a Texas good ol' boy athlete and they can do no wrong huh? And if you've never entangled with a school board that is pro-athlete, you have no idea of what you speak. They'll do anything to win including throwing a cheerleader under the bus. I have personal experience of that, but my personal experiences mean nothing around here (unless and until I personally use them that is) so I won't bore anyone with the gory details. But I will say it ain't very pretty if you're not on their good side.

You're so concerned about her credit? I know you're not; it's just a weak and feeble attempt to turn a knife in an already gaping wound for her and her family. Your compassion still knows no bottom........I mean bounds! She has absolutely NOTHING to worry about; when she's ready to buy a house, car, or anything else she wants in her life that she can afford to pay for, I (and my resource partners) know just how to get it. I've been in the business of credit since 1997; not too many people can do it like me and I know what I'm talking about. And while I'm at it, we'll get the lawsuit removed from her credit report too. Why do you ask? Because this is what I do and I haven't lost yet!!

She doesn't even need my efforts; there are resources all over the country that can assist her in getting credit on anything she can prove to afford. So I'm not overly concerned about her credit situation....not nearly as much as you considering you're the one who brought it up.

When I'm done, everyone (including you) will ask "how the hell did she do it?" This will not impede her in the least, especially in today's economy. Besides as long as she's paying on the debt or hasn't filed bankruptcy by then, no one can touch her.

She can pay them a dollar a week....well maybe 10.00/week. By the time she reaches $45,000, all parties will be dead!

 

[Babbles]

Ok, the paint's dry already.

Kis, you're too patient yourself 😀

This does not sound like the faked Duke football player case --- in THAT case the bitch & her lawyer & the DA who went after those innocent boys belong in jail, a hell of a long time. Thankfully that was cleared & the real criminals were held accountable ----- and I think they needed much more jail time, again. MALE OR FEMALE ---

BUT THIS GUY pleaded assault, as others pointed out, there had to be evidence, something significant there and it's more likely he did more damage. Even if not --- he assaulted her, and there is no way she should be cheering for an abusive bastard.

Any sort of abusive bastard.
Men complain about the legal system but it's very difficult to prove rape as has also been pointed out. But assault was proven.

Was she already on the cheerleading team when she was attacked? I thought she was --- why should she leave due to the above-mentioned shit?

Innocent until proven guilty --- totally. Again, apparently assault was proven. Nothing "frivolous" there.

But IF he's more, a bastard rapist and it just can't be proven --- Simple, she should get even. 😀 Cut his dick off with piano wire & force feed him beef stew.
Oh, there's no evidence left? What a pity 🙄 Problem solved.

 

[DontAskJusTckle]

Kis, you're too patient yourself 😀

This does not sound like the faked Duke football player case --- in THAT case the bitch & her lawyer & the DA who went after those innocent boys belong in jail, a hell of a long time. Thankfully that was cleared & the real criminals were held accountable ----- and I think they needed much more jail time, again. MALE OR FEMALE ---

BUT THIS GUY pleaded assault, as others pointed out, there had to be evidence, something significant there and it's more likely he did more damage. Even if not --- he assaulted her, and there is no way she should be cheering for an abusive bastard.

Any sort of abusive bastard.
Men complain about the legal system but it's very difficult to prove rape as has also been pointed out. But assault was proven.

Was she already on the cheerleading team when she was attacked? I thought she was --- why should she leave due to the above-mentioned shit?

Innocent until proven guilty --- totally. Again, apparently assault was proven. Nothing "frivolous" there.

But IF he's more, a bastard rapist and it just can't be proven --- Simple, she should get even. 😀 Cut his dick off with piano wire & force feed him beef stew.

Sure, that'll work...

...if she happens to be Wonder Woman or Buffy the Vampire Slayer

 

[natural tickler]

Everything about this story is bullshit. And I wouldn't have just stood there. I would have stuffed my fucking pom-poms up his ass. Over-achieve that shit.

^this

is why I love you

 

[Babbles]

Drug his beer, hire a few goombas, so many choices when there's no doubt but no proof

Sure, that'll work...

...if she happens to be Wonder Woman or Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Two words: Lorena Bobbitt.

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