Custom Video Etiquette Getting The Most Out Of Your Custom Video

[Erin And Di]

Here is some advice about ordering a custom that will make both you and the model feel good

I have negotiated and ordered customs from a lot of models and for the most part have been happy with every one. Here are some rules I have learned.

1: Each model has her own pricing rate and it's based on many things including location, photos, difficulty of scene, the amount to film it and the amount to send it to you. Christina Carter will charge about 2700 for an hour long video with another model. She'll use a high quality set, you have to pay for the photos whether you want them or not, it will be very high def. This will not be major BDSM and she tends to like role plays. Diana Knight, Nat Demore, SAmantha Grace same thing. Going to one model might knock off about 300 dollars. Much of your custom HERE is the location and the extremely high quality production. NO YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TALK THEM DOWN! I tend to prefer models who shoot out of their home. It keeps the price down, they tend to work with camera men who they know, vice who answered an ad. And they tend to be more comfy at home.

2: You need to write good specific scripts. Submit them to a model. I have found if I include photos of similar scenes it works out best. To be honest if the model says the script is too detailed and you write in clear english then she is not worth it. She wants easy money. Cares little for your fantasy. I send a detailed script, then at the end give a short description of each scene with it's salient points. If I know a model has shot with a certain company I'll tell her Well I want you tied like such and such. I want it to have a dungeoncorp feel to it. Also, a foot modeling scene will usually be a different price than say a suspension.

If you have a certain position in mind TELL them. Don't say I want you to hop. Tell them how if you want it a specific way.
Keep in mind, if you change some details after you pay they might want extra. Example: If you ask for a foot fetish video and they say ok I'll do a 10 minute video for 250 and after you pay they say Hey I want your feet flogged with bastinado they will probably say ok you can get THAT in another video or pay me this much more. That is valid on their part because you asked for a totally different concept.

Make certain they understand they can improvise some.

3: While discussion of the script is nice THEY ARE NOT YOUR PERSONAL SPANK BANK!! They will pick up very quickly if you are a time waster.
Send your script. Ask her if she has questions. Answer her questions. Then get your rate. If it goes much past that then they will know you are not interested. I have found models like Sabrina Fox and Gina Rae Michaels are AWESOME provided you show you are serious. Both will 100% work with you THEY WANT you to get your moneys worth. 1: They do give a shit. 2: If you like it you will probably repeat and spread the word.

4: Pay them promptly. If you agreed on a price it is total BS to say well I am going on a business trip or on vacation. I'll pay you when I get back. Thats BS. You already agreed on the price. Paypal works around the world. While you are travelling THEY can make your video. Then you'll have a great surprise when you get home.

5: Show respect. They don't want you asking how their feet smell or what they are wearing or to tell you about their best tickling experience. They want to make your video and at a fair price. Again it's NOT a cybersex or cybertickling session. Don't ask for their home address. That is their private life.


I mentioned a couple specific models as being good for the following reasons.:

1: They LIKE you. Hell Sabrina Fox posts here because she likes you!

2: Their rates are reasonable and if you buy multiple videos they'll negotiate multiple rates (Sometimes) Keep in mind I am not speaking for them.

3: They answer mail promptly (usually within a couple days) and ask good questions. Oppose this to Addie Juniper. Send more than a couple sentences she will say it's too confusing. Her rate might be a bit better but she wants to punch the video out at her convenience vice make the one you want. I'm not knocking Addie but keep in mind, virtually EVERY video you see on a website by a model is a custom and she tends to try to do the minimum for the money. You might pay a couple bucks extra a minute with others BUT damn it is worth it!

4: They keep you up to date on the status of your video.

5: They are excellent improvisers! That is essential so your video is not mechanical.

I have vids from Christina, Kobe lee, Randy Moore, Serene Isley, Gina Rae and Sabrina Fox. While all did a good job the only ones I now order from are Gina and Sabrina because they hit it right.

Keep in mind. A one hour 2 or 3 scene video is about 5 or 6 hours of work. You see the edited version.

Above all. Contact them if you are serious! Then pay them, your vid does not get made till they are paid and more importantly if you are a deadbeat THAT gets around FAST!

Any questions please PM me! Or post them here!

 

[Diana Knight]

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Thanks for a this "how to" post,.. It really explains things very simply,.. and that's all that we ask. Model/producers WANT to give you guys a product that you'll be happy with. We want you to come back for more. All we ask is that folks not waste our time. We want to work for serious collectors. 🙂

Now,.. as for the price tag. I myself,. have never produced a video for that much money.. and kudos to Christina if she is doing that kind of business. I'm sure she is.. she's very popular right now,.. and she has a loyal customer base,... but....

If interested parties just contact us, (script in hand REALLY helps)... I, for one, will make ALWAYS make an effort to work within someone's budget. They just have to let us know exactly what they want,.. AND be patient with the negotiation process while we figure out how to make it happen for them at a price they can afford.

Best to all,..

 

[samanthagrace]

Hello Asstard,

Diana Knight told me about this post. I'm glad to actually comment on it because I'm glad you are pointing this out to others who order custom videos from us. Most people do not know what goes on and they think videos magically happen. They believe that the 30 minutes of camera time took, 30 minutes to film. When in fact a lot of times a 30 minute video can take 1-2 hours.

What a great post! You are correct that we want to produce videos that make our fans happy. We want you to come back and be loyal customers. You really do get it. I also get you guys want your fantasies to become reality. The reason my videos cost more is, fantasies are always much better then reality. 🙂 I want to create a world without pimples, clutter and stuff we see in the real world.

Thank you so much for the kind words. We really do like shooting high quality videos and try to produce the best out there. I use "we" because I do tend to use production staff and the best talent in the business (Thanks to my models, camera person and editors). I shoot in HD this is very true. I use a camera person who works in the real Hollywood movie industry. I often edit my own videos but sometimes, I hire someone to edit if I am traveling. Since, I tend to focus more on production quality my videos do tend to cost a little more. I also, tend to shoot a lot of videos on a nice set, I often build my sets. Sometimes I rent a studio location, depending on the storyline. My goal as a producer is to produce the best video possible. To make your fantasy a reality without all the clutter of the real world. Let's face it, the real world isn't as pretty as the fantasy I like to create. ;-)

I've only produced two videos at the $2,000 rate. But those two videos required a heavy amount of BDSM, I had to hire more then one model or there was a lot of sexual penetration. The talent also needed to be tested for STDs because of the sexual nature of the video. I charge more for videos where me and my talent must be tested.I charge more for videos with penetration and sexual contact. I also require all the talent to be tested if there is any sexual contact in video. I also, charge more for longer videos. I charge more for locations. I charge more if I have to hire an editor.

You also have to be specific if you are looking for a professional style video or an amateur style. I do charge less for the amateur style. Like the location is my home without all my lighting equipment. However, just because it is amateur style doesn't mean I will charge less for videos with a heavy amount of sexual contact. If the video requires sexual contact with two girls or penetration. The video will include both my hourly rate and the other models, for an adult scene. If there is penetration, expect to pay a model's full rate. Keep in mind I am located in Los Angeles and we are the porn capitol of the world. I have access to almost any LA adult star you can think of but these names often do come with a high price tag.

My rates for videos vary. The lowest cost video I have produced was an amateur video with little to no nudity at $50 and only about 5 minutes. My highest price was over $2,500 and it was a full production hardcore BDSM scene with penetration and girl/girl sex.

I try to get back to emails promptly. I will admit the first email might take a bit of turn around. My goal is to reply back within 72 hours. It doesn't always happen. Such as this past week. I was preforming for the Dallas Fetish Ball and had many travel days away from LA. Then this weekend was Thanksgiving. So, I've been busy. My turn around this week would be longer because I have about 800 emails backed up. But normally, I get back within 72 hours.

Anyways, Thanks for this great post!

Samantha Grace
http://www.samanthagracelive.com

 

[Erin And Di]

Thanks Samantha

BTW Someone thought I was talking down Diana and the others in the first paragraph. I was not or did not mean to.
They are professionals and they do things a certain way with definitive production qualities. At one time I was negotiating a video with Miss Knight we exchanged a lot of emails and even after I decided no, she was extremely gracious and said if I changed my mind I was welcome to contact her.
I also lumped her on the higher end which isn't entirely true. She would be above average on the price thing so I apologize.

The bottom line every one I mentioned I had a pleasant experience with even though I did not buy vids from all of them. Miss Knight even emailed me a few weeks later asking if I enjoyed the video I had ordered from someone else.

TBH if I ever get a custom I will most likely approach Diana.

Samantha is VERY good about posting when she cannot answer email. Quick word of advice, check their twitters or homepages. All the great ones, Diana, Samantha, Christina post when they cannot answer email.

ALSO, don't try to be their Boyfriend, Lover or Confidante. THEY ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE FILLING THAT ROLE!

 

[samanthagrace]

BTW Someone thought I was talking down Diana and the others in the first paragraph. I was not or did not mean to.
They are professionals and they do things a certain way with definitive production qualities. At one time I was negotiating a video with Miss Knight we exchanged a lot of emails and even after I decided no, she was extremely gracious and said if I changed my mind I was welcome to contact her.
I also lumped her on the higher end which isn't entirely true. She would be above average on the price thing so I apologize.

The bottom line every one I mentioned I had a pleasant experience with even though I did not buy vids from all of them. Miss Knight even emailed me a few weeks later asking if I enjoyed the video I had ordered from someone else.

TBH if I ever get a custom I will most likely approach Diana.

Samantha is VERY good about posting when she cannot answer email. Quick word of advice, check their twitters or homepages. All the great ones, Diana, Samantha, Christina post when they cannot answer email.

ALSO, don't try to be their Boyfriend, Lover or Confidante. THEY ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE FILLING THAT ROLE!

Hello Asstard,

I agree all the ladies are very gracious and I always hear wonderful things about them. We hear about each other on both ends it seems. I loved your feedback by the way Asstard. It's great to hear what you have to say. Were our strong points are.

Yes, I always am honest about how many emails I am behind. Today it's 500. I answered 300 over the weekend. 🙂 Don't let my amount of emails intimidate you either. A lot of emails aren't just customs. But shoots, in person sessions, models and other business emails.

Haha... that is so true about other people filling the roles of lover, ect. You guys can be fans and friends. 🙂 I love interacting with everyone on forums.

 

[Erin And Di]

Thank you and Diana for participating. It means a lot to your fans and forum members in general.