Destroy All Heroines

[Tenebrae]

Story 11 : "Stacking the Deck"

This story is the last one and was left unfinished, so there's no need to bother me or Lou sending reclamation e-mails.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Story 1 : "Night Flyer Grounded"

Part 1

From the second pic I can tell you this is bull shit. Burning some one, or beating them is not sexy, it's abuse. Go ahead and suspend me Jeff, I don't give a fuck!, You'd have to be one sick haness evil low life mother fucker to thing there is anything "cool" or "Sexy" about causing others pain to this degree. This shit shouldn't be aloud on the forum anymore stuff with kids.

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[Tenebrae]

From the second pic I can tell you this is bull shit. Burning some one, or beating them is not sexy, it's abuse. Go ahead and suspend me Jeff, I don't give a fuck!, You'd have to be one sick haness evil low life mother fucker to thing there is anything "cool" or "Sexy" about causing others pain to this degree. This shit shouldn't be aloud on the forum anymore stuff with kids.

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I know this would happen, since Lou's material has always been controversial among the community. Let me explain why I posted this.

First, this is a FANTASY forum. Anyone might post what they want for sharing with people who enjoy this. And yes, there are people who ENJOY this type of art, no matter how "sick" or "extreme" you might consider it. These people should be considered with much more respect than you show them, by the way.

Second, these are the works of Loupanther, a most talented artist who makes excellent tickling pics. What's above was a retrospective of some of his works I got on my HD. They are the beginning and the end of a long story which involved wonderfully sadistic tickling. The people who saw the latter on the tickling forum deserved to get the complete story here, I think.

Finally, I feel sorry it shocked you, as I was not trying to. All the more so as you seem, by the number of your posts, to be a very active member in the community. I apologize. If one of the administrators wants to put a disclaimer at the beginning of this trhead to prevent people like SlaverTickler from being shocked, I will approve the choice.

And please, Slaver, stop insulting people : it is by no means constructive.

 

[Kalamos]

My words won't be as harsh, but I too find that Lou Panther's pics are a bit shocking.
As I mentioned elsewhere, it is not bad in itself.
To each his own.

To me, graphical portrayal of [however fictional] sexual abuse is usually not arousing.
For some reason, I feel so sympathetic towards the victims that I would try and save them.
Over-active imagination, I guess.

Just don't call us bigots because we don't share similar tastes.
It is not like we can't understand a genius.
This is about turn-ons and offs.
To me, non-consensual SM "play" is usually a turn-off.

 

[Tenebrae]

My words won't be as harsh, but I too find that Lou Panther's pics are a bit shocking.
As I mentioned elsewhere, it is not bad in itself.
To each his own.

To me, graphical portrayal of [however fictional] sexual abuse is usually not arousing.
For some reason, I feel so sympathetic towards the victims that I would try and save them.
Over-active imagination, I guess.

Just don't call us bigots because we don't share similar tastes.
It is not like we can't understand a genius.
This is about turn-ons and offs.
To me, non-consensual SM "play" is usually a turn-off.

And I understand your point of view.

I am calling no one a biggot, since you're not part of any censorship organization, I believe. And you have the right not to be turned on by this sort of stuff. Just don't hate people who are and if you still do, don't insult us on these forums. Period.

By the way, know that *real* biggots, if any, are into censoring tickling stuff too. They think that people who express their fantasies on the web, like we are doing, are utterly perverted. This is for everyone who read this : be more intelligent than them. Again, critics are appreciated, even negative ones. But, honestly, I do not like being called a "sick freak" or whatever, and I believe you don't either.

 

[Kalamos]

I am calling no one a biggot, since you're not part of any censorship organization, I believe.

Not anymore.
You can sin freely.

😉

Just kiddin'.

But, honestly, I do not like being called a "sick freak" or whatever, and I believe you don't either.

Eh, that is tough matter.
I would suggest, don't fight the flow. Follow it.

 

[SlaverTickler]

First, this is a FANTASY forum. Anyone might post what they want for sharing with people who enjoy this. And yes, there are people who ENJOY this type of art, no matter how "sick" or "extreme" you might consider it. These people should be considered with much more respect than you show them, by the way..

BULL SHIT! No body who get's off on drawing pics of women being beaton and burned deseves anything from me but a sledge hammer to his fingers

Second, these are the works of Loupanther, a most talented artist who makes excellent tickling pics. What's above was a retrospective of some of his works I got on my HD. They are the beginning and the end of a long story which involved wonderfully sadistic tickling. The people who saw the latter on the tickling forum deserved to get the complete story here, I think.

Anybody who would want to see shit like shat should have their sight stripped form them for a week. What type of sick pricks get off on that. I left a forum (noting to do with the TMF) because of stuff like this.

Finally, I feel sorry it shocked you, as I was not trying to. All the more so as you seem, by the number of your posts, to be a very active member in the community. I apologize. If one of the administrators wants to put a disclaimer at the beginning of this trhead to prevent people like SlaverTickler from being shocked, I will approve the choice.

This shit is just flat out wrong, it's just as wrong as material containing minors, it may even be worse, because some contnet with minors is posted here with inosent intent. There is nothing inocent about his crap. We are fighting a war against people who feel it's ok to treat women like this. Oh and I don't care that it's women torturing women either, so get bent. Simply put (so you can understand it) this sort of violence shouldn't be aloud here, it is the TICKLING MEDIA FORUM, not the RAPE AND TORTURE MEDIA FORUM.

And please, Slaver, stop insulting people : it is by no means constructive

Construct this... FUCK YOU!!!

 

[SlaverTickler]

My words won't be as harsh, but I too find that Lou Panther's pics are a bit shocking.
As I mentioned elsewhere, it is not bad in itself.
To each his own.

To me, graphical portrayal of [however fictional] sexual abuse is usually not arousing.
For some reason, I feel so sympathetic towards the victims that I would try and save them.
Over-active imagination, I guess.

Just don't call us bigots because we don't share similar tastes.
It is not like we can't understand a genius.
This is about turn-ons and offs.
To me, non-consensual SM "play" is usually a turn-off.

Turn offs and turn on's my ass this is just digracefull. I write None Consentual stuff, and nobody ever had there feet shoved into an in door campfire. The guy who drew this stuff is evil, and this guy who posted it is not better. If I get suspended for my choice of words he should be expelled for his choice to be retched bastard.

 

[SlaverTickler]

By the way, know that *real* biggots, if any, are into censoring tickling stuff too. They think that people who express their fantasies on the web, like we are doing, are utterly perverted. This is for everyone who read this : be more intelligent than them. Again, critics are appreciated, even negative ones. But, honestly, I do not like being called a "sick freak" or whatever, and I believe you don't either.

I never said I wasn't a freak, I'm just not taking shit to that level, and I don't want the likes of you deffending me or speaking for me.

 

[Kalamos]

Turn offs and turn on's my ass this is just digracefull.

Disgraceful. If you have to disagree, at least stick with proper English.
Nothing ruins the point like broken language.

First.
Second.

If you think this stuff is "evil", WHY THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP BUMPING IT!?
Let it sink.
Bump something else.

They are not going to delete it.
Some users like LP's comics. And these are just comics anyway. You can't even say that LP hurt real ppl in the making.
He hurt some feelings. And your grasp of written English.

I mean it: cut it and start bumping something else.
It is not like you don't have other choices.
I mean, I am a drawer myself! WTF, bump my own threads, if you don't like LP's pics.

Bumping an artist you don't like is like fucking for virginity.
You are only giving him even more exposure, and odds are, more ppl are going to disagree with you, because you are making a fuss over it.

STOP. BUMPING. THREADS. YOU. DISLIKE.
Bump mine.

😉

 

[Darth Vegeta]

Well i like Lou Panther's art in itself.
I like his tickling work. Though... i was a bit dissapointed this was besides the point somewhat so to speak. (i got directlinked, didn't know it was non-tickling)
In the guy's defence... a lot more 'extreme' content has been posted in the past. So if that can go, this too. But i haven't watched all pics just a few. Which seemed rather nice. But i probably misses those that offended you all. I'll take a look later on.

 

[loupanther]

I think a little context and perspective are needed here…

1) In SAW III, a naked woman is shown tied up and doused with freezing water until she dies. This movie has grossed over $142,000,000 worldwide.
2) A recent issue of the Manhunter comic book opens with the attached pages below, depicting a hand slicing up a superhero with a scalpel while another man is forced to watch (Pg1), then the same man is shown chained up naked and covered with needles as he is fondled by a woman (Pg2). Manhunter is published by DC Comics.
3) On a 2001 WWE show, a woman (Trish Stratus) is ganged up on by 3 people, slapped, beaten, has muddy water dumped over her head, her face dunked in a bucket and a dirty mop smashed in her face. She is humiliated in front of an arena full of screaming fans. No need to tell you how popular WWE is.

What do these things have to do with anything, you ask?

- They are all examples of extreme brutality and humiliation depicted in hugely popular mainstream media (2 against women)
- They are all examples of brutality that, in my opinion are equal to or worse than what is depicted my comic being discussed here.
- They are all staged fiction (just like this comic is).
- They all have a place when taken in the context of the story being told.

SlaveTickler,

In your comments you make this particular comic series sound like a wall-to-wall abuse/rape/torture comic. If you did read past the first few panels (and I hope you did), you will see that this is not the case at all. Several segments feature straight-up superheroine/villain battles with no bondage or torture at all. Taken as a whole, this story is about 3 heroines that run up against insurmountable odds and get the short end of the stick. Yes, it depicts various torments of the heroines throughout, but that is what a superheroine-in-distress comic is supposed to do. The segment you reference is the opening sequence and is only 11 panels of a 118-panel comic. It presents a captor/captive scene that is very relevant to the overall storyline. You reference “burning” the victim, and how it is not sexy, etc. To that I have a few things to point out…

First, the scene depicts a ploy by the captor to put the heroine in discomfort (tying her leaning over a fire) and later to subdue her by using a weapon close at hand (hot coals). In my opinion this is not all that horrific a scene and I could have made it a lot more graphic had I chosen to. The heroine is clothed when she is leaning over the fire; and then clothed, free and fighting back when she is burned with the coals. In the context (there’s that word again) of the story, hot coals would definitely leave marks…not putting the marks on her body would have been inaccurate and a cop-out on my part. Now, if I had drawn a comic where the victim was tied up naked and helpless and was being relentlessly burned or cooked or something like that, maybe it would warrant your visceral reaction. But what I am showing is not that at all. Plus, her feet aren’t in the fire as you state, but beside it…take a closer look.

And far as this scene being “sexy”, the intent of this scene was not to make the heroine getting burned sexy or sexual, as demonstrated by the fact that the heroine’s top doesn’t tear off until after she is beaten down by the villain…again, not when she is struck with the handful of coals. If you are looking for sexiness in this scene, it would be in the heroine putting up a fight but ultimately being defeated…much in the same way that female fighting is depicted in female wrestling/fighting media. Or in WWE...Or in women-in-prison movies...I could go on.

Secondly, these are SUPERHEROINES we are dealing with here. “Super” being the key word. The underlying theme of all superhero comics is that the heroes and villains are a cut above the average human and can take what is dished out. Just as they can break thru walls and battle super-powered adversaries, they can take more punishment than the average person too. That is what is being shown here. If this was a “girl-next-door” I was depicting getting tortured in such a manner then you may have a point. But again, that is not what I am showing. And if you read on, NightFlyer is alive and kicking and beating someone’s ass later in the comic, with her scrapes, burns and bruises healed up.

Third, this is not the “good old days” when the good girl wins every time out. As such, in tickling media a good girl that loses usually gets tied up and tickled mercilessly. That, in and of itself, is a cruel form of torture...don't kid yourself (just because it doesn't leave marks, doesn't mean its not torture). And if you throw in sexual stimulation upon a helpless victim on top of that, you can make a case for sexual assault. It just so happens that tickling is a form of torture that is enjoyed by members of this Forum. And in that regard, on this site, is accepted. You write stories about it, I do drawings about it. Elsewhere, like in the real world, you would be prosecuted for tying/tickling a non-consenting woman just as quickly as some of the activities you decry in my story. So the "sick" label you are applying to my DAH story would be applied to tickling media also by some people.

As for the methods of torture chosen here, I must say that DAH was not designed as a tickling-only comic, thus the consequences for a captive lady are much more wide-ranging. This diversity of torture options for the characters leads to an evil villain torturing a super-heroine by tying her up beside a fire and beating her up. Later on it leads to tickling.


To your other points…

Does it belong on TMF? Well, that’s not for me to say. That is up to the moderators, who do a very good job of determining what is or is not allowed on. The DAH stories were placed in the “Non-Tickling Artwork” forum where they belong and have been up for about two weeks now. If there is any problem with them, I’m sure Tenebre will be notified to take them down.

I do take exception, however, with your comments relating my art to underage content. None of my characters are minors. They never have been and never will be. Adult content featuring minors is truly sick and illegal EVERYWHERE, including on the Internet, and should definitely be banned on TMF. By contrast, media depicting torture of women is NOT illegal despite the fact that some, such as yourself, do not like it. There are things I don’t care for that I come across on TMF. I’m sure that is true of anyone reading this. If this is not your type of content, that is fine, but realize that there is such a thing as freedom of speech that applies here. Be careful of the path that you are standing on, because if you start down the road of censorship it may eventually lead to the removal of some tickling-related media that you DO like around here.

I doubt this will change your mind about me or my work. If I am a sick fuck to you today, I will likely be a sick fuck to you tomorrow and the day after that, too. You undoubtedly have you mind made up along that line. Hopefully for future viewers coming to this thread to have a look, they will not take this discourse as a red flag and have a look at the art for themselves.

 

[SlaverTickler]

1) In SAW III, a naked woman is shown tied up and doused with freezing water until she dies. This movie has grossed over $142,000,000 worldwide.
2) A recent issue of the Manhunter comic book opens with the attached pages below, depicting a hand slicing up a superhero with a scalpel while another man is forced to watch (Pg1), then the same man is shown chained up naked and covered with needles as he is fondled by a woman (Pg2). Manhunter is published by DC Comics.
3) On a 2001 WWE show, a woman (Trish Stratus) is ganged up on by 3 people, slapped, beaten, has muddy water dumped over her head, her face dunked in a bucket and a dirty mop smashed in her face. She is humiliated in front of an arena full of screaming fans. No need to tell you how popular WWE is.

What do these things have to do with anything, you ask?

- They are all examples of extreme brutality and humiliation depicted in hugely popular mainstream media (2 against women)
- They are all examples of brutality that, in my opinion are equal to or worse than what is depicted my comic being discussed here.
- They are all staged fiction (just like this comic is).
- They all have a place when taken in the context of the story being told.

Your comic is 100% demeaning. I wasn;t watching WWE in 2001 but I'm sure Trish got even. I don't collect Martian Man Hunter, and never would because he is a boring chractor, and I wouldn't go to see SawIII because the first one wasn't that great.

SlaveTickler,

In your comments you make this particular comic series sound like a wall-to-wall abuse/rape/torture comic. If you did read past the first few panels (and I hope you did), you will see that this is not the case at all. Several segments feature straight-up superheroine/villain battles with no bondage or torture at all. Taken as a whole, this story is about 3 heroines that run up against insurmountable odds and get the short end of the stick. Yes, it depicts various torments of the heroines throughout, but that is what a superheroine-in-distress comic is supposed to do. The segment you reference is the opening sequence and is only 11 panels of a 118-panel comic. It presents a captor/captive scene that is very relevant to the overall storyline. You reference “burning” the victim, and how it is not sexy, etc. To that I have a few things to point out…

First, the scene depicts a ploy by the captor to put the heroine in discomfort (tying her leaning over a fire) and later to subdue her by using a weapon close at hand (hot coals). In my opinion this is not all that horrific a scene and I could have made it a lot more graphic had I chosen to. The heroine is clothed when she is leaning over the fire; and then clothed, free and fighting back when she is burned with the coals. In the context (there’s that word again) of the story, hot coals would definitely leave marks…not putting the marks on her body would have been inaccurate and a cop-out on my part. Now, if I had drawn a comic where the victim was tied up naked and helpless and was being relentlessly burned or cooked or something like that, maybe it would warrant your visceral reaction. But what I am showing is not that at all. Plus, her feet aren’t in the fire as you state, but beside it…take a closer look.

Wow, how many books did you have to read to come up with all the right answers. Sort of like the guy who wants to blame his problam on being crazy, but in reverse. If you wanted it to looke like her feet are beside the fire then you should have drawn them on the side were the reader could see them, didn't think of that responce did ya smart guy?

And far as this scene being “sexy”, the intent of this scene was not to make the heroine getting burned sexy or sexual, as demonstrated by the fact that the heroine’s top doesn’t tear off until after she is beaten down by the villain…again, not when she is struck with the handful of coals. If you are looking for sexiness in this scene, it would be in the heroine putting up a fight but ultimately being defeated…much in the same way that female fighting is depicted in female wrestling/fighting media. Or in WWE...Or in women-in-prison movies...I could go on.

Yeah you could go on, but then you might slip and say the wrong thing, and then we would all know you rubbed you're self off watching "Ilssa: She Wolf of the SS"

Secondly, these are SUPERHEROINES we are dealing with here. “Super” being the key word. The underlying theme of all superhero comics is that the heroes and villains are a cut above the average human and can take what is dished out. Just as they can break thru walls and battle super-powered adversaries, they can take more punishment than the average person too. That is what is being shown here. If this was a “girl-next-door” I was depicting getting tortured in such a manner then you may have a point. But again, that is not what I am showing. And if you read on, NightFlyer is alive and kicking and beating someone’s ass later in the comic, with her scrapes, burns and bruises healed up.

Your so modest, you said you didn't do cop outs, but your almost good at it.

Third, this is not the “good old days” when the good girl wins every time out. As such, in tickling media a good girl that loses usually gets tied up and tickled mercilessly. That, in and of itself, is a cruel form of torture...don't kid yourself (just because it doesn't leave marks, doesn't mean its not torture). And if you throw in sexual stimulation upon a helpless victim on top of that, you can make a case for sexual assault. It just so happens that tickling is a form of torture that is enjoyed by members of this Forum. And in that regard, on this site, is accepted. You write stories about it, I do drawings about it. Elsewhere, like in the real world, you would be prosecuted for tying/tickling a non-consenting woman just as quickly as some of the activities you decry in my story. So the "sick" label you are applying to my DAH story would be applied to tickling media also by some people.

Your point is moot here simply because of the violence in this comic. The only violence in my story's (when there is any) is when the female lee turns the tables on a male ler. In my oppinion (and they are like ass holes I know) this is the only way a woman would be able to turn the tide like in Intensley Anistan or Revenge part 3. Wow this is so much fun it's almost evil.

As for the methods of torture chosen here, I must say that DAH was not designed as a tickling-only comic, thus the consequences for a captive lady are much more wide-ranging. This diversity of torture options for the characters leads to an evil villain torturing a super-heroine by tying her up beside a fire and beating her up. Later on it leads to tickling.

Yep, I can see how beating someone with a wip could lead to tickling. Then a beer, maybe acid in the face... I could go on.

To your other points…

Does it belong on TMF? Well, that’s not for me to say. That is up to the moderators, who do a very good job of determining what is or is not allowed on. The DAH stories were placed in the “Non-Tickling Artwork” forum where they belong and have been up for about two weeks now. If there is any problem with them, I’m sure Tenebre will be notified to take them down.

Mods aren't gods, they don't see everything, but don't worry, they know now.

I do take exception, however, with your comments relating my art to underage content. None of my characters are minors. They never have been and never will be. Adult content featuring minors is truly sick and illegal EVERYWHERE, including on the Internet, and should definitely be banned on TMF. By contrast, media depicting torture of women is NOT illegal despite the fact that some, such as yourself, do not like it. There are things I don’t care for that I come across on TMF. I’m sure that is true of anyone reading this. If this is not your type of content, that is fine, but realize that there is such a thing as freedom of speech that applies here. Be careful of the path that you are standing on, because if you start down the road of censorship it may eventually lead to the removal of some tickling-related media that you DO like around here.

The fact that a guy like you does like it is why god gave women like my sisters older brothers who are willing to kill and die to protect them.

I doubt this will change your mind about me or my work. If I am a sick fuck to you today, I will likely be a sick fuck to you tomorrow and the day after that, too. You undoubtedly have you mind made up along that line. Hopefully for future viewers coming to this thread to have a look, they will not take this discourse as a red flag and have a look at the art for themselves.

You know what lou, I would really like to see this from you point of view, but unfortunetly I just can't get my head that far up my ass.

By the way those manhunter pics aren't anywhere nears as brutal as your stuff. I'm done, your entire argument stems from your beliefe that beating women is ok. Well it's not I tore you a new one at every turn. You have no Game as the saying goes. I won't be back.

 

[Kalamos]

The fact that a guy like you does like it is why god gave women like my sisters older brothers who are willing to kill and die to protect them.

Ahem... Wouldn't you consider toning it down a bit?
Lou Panther is not threatening your close family.
You can kill him later, when he'll do.

But now... he is just drawing comics.
And some ppl out there even pay him to draw more.
I don't think yours is the best course of action, if you really dislike his works.

As I mentioned before, if you dislike somebody over the web, you should STOP replying, and deny said person *exposure*.
When you reply, you bump his thread, and allow him to reach new ppl and customers.

They are right about the censorship thing.
You can't get a producer or an artist banned, because you think they create "evil" scenes.
If you dislike somebody, find someone diametrally different, and bump him or her instead.

...

Seriously, I am an artist myself, I get just so many replies, then my threads slip down the list.
Then I see ppl like you giving FREE exposure and support to artists you DO NOT LIKE.
Makes me mad.

 

[Darth Vegeta]

After looking all pics i must say i liked many of them.
Though those like the ones with the 'rods' weren't my style. (though it was so abstract and weird i couldn't really see it as... well real)
I really don't see the big deal.
Some things on this board really really disgusted me... but nobody complained about those.
Heck story-rapes or men being forced into sex with other men has featured in stories but i just didn't read it or when i found out at the end just never returned. Some people apparently enjoyed it and well that's their call.
It's not my board.
But to go so all out agressive against the author isn't right.
He didn't break any rules as far as i can see.

 

[Tenebrae]

Ahem... Wouldn't you consider toning it down a bit?
Lou Panther is not threatening your close family.
You can kill him later, when he'll do.

But now... he is just drawing comics.
And some ppl out there even pay him to draw more.
I don't think yours is the best course of action, if you really dislike his works.

As I mentioned before, if you dislike somebody over the web, you should STOP replying, and deny said person *exposure*.
When you reply, you bump his thread, and allow him to reach new ppl and customers.

They are right about the censorship thing.
You can't get a producer or an artist banned, because you think they create "evil" scenes.
If you dislike somebody, find someone diametrally different, and bump him or her instead.

...

Seriously, I am an artist myself, I get just so many replies, then my threads slip down the list.
Then I see ppl like you giving FREE exposure and support to artists you DO NOT LIKE.
Makes me mad.

Wise words. This counts for you and Lou. I have nothing more to add. Except...

See Slaver ? It was all written in English (yes, that strange class you attended in school !).

Hey Lou, I loved Saw III. The scene you described was my fav and I felt so excited ! Wow, it was amazing !!!

Oh, Slaver, one last thing : I LOVED ILSA, but honestly the torture scenes were too short and not close enough to my personal fantasies "to rub myself", as you say. There was no force feeding, for instance. But I did on the #2, wich I suggest you watch. Maybe you'll choke to death with your own venom, who knows ?

Like Kalamos said, go bump someone else.

 

[laughinggaszone]

I'm coming into this at the tale end (and I certainly hope it's the end), but a little perspective is in order. Slaver, I can understand your view. The brutality depicted in some of Lou's work is extreme, but I have seen much worse. There are folks who would consider Lou's work rather tame in comparison. It's all relative to ones exposure to this kind of graphic work.

Men and women have a wide spectrum of fantasies ranging from the tame to the extreme. What one views as innocent (going to strip clubs and oggling at busty models) another views as deplorable (mysanthropic and robbing women of their respect). My personal favorite is one I see a great deal on these very forums. One tickler (who likes tickling hefty women) berating another tickler for liking liking furry tickling. It's all relative.

Does this mean the extreme artist is absolved of being a brutalizer? Not necessarily. There are artists and fans with deep emotional issues, who fantasize about extremes as well as practice them in real life. However, neither you nor I know this person and it is not our place to decide if this is a harmless (if violent) fantasy or something more sinister.

Men and women have real life pain and extreme fantasies such as gaspers (largely women as receivers) and fem dom (largely men as receivers), but it is something they want. You and I may never want these things, but when done concentually, there is little harm in it (although some might argue the moral decay and so forth).

I know many artist who depict things I find distateful, but have no real world ties to these subjects. An innocent example, Invader Zim. I enjoy most of that show. I do not care for the scatological and vomitory references. It really nauseates me. I doubt very much that the entire writing staff were scatologically motivated. They just liked pushing buttons. In the same respect, I enjoy Lou's capture and tickle fantasy aspect, but give a pass on the more extreme stuff.

When an artist depicts something extreme, it isn't the act depicted that is malicious or even the artist, it's the intent. The intent of the artist and the intent of the viewer. If the art is simply a fantasy base outlet then they are not "evil." If, however, if the artist or viewer uses the art to compliment an already malicious life style, then they may be considered "evil." But the art never is, it's just art. If you doubt this, run a poll on this board and ask who views tickling in a strictly sexual way and a strictly non sexual way. You might be surprised at how many people view it completely non sexual, but still
consider it a fetish. Art is only complete when it has been viewed. It is the viewer that defines the meaning and purpose, even if that meaning and purpose are contrary to what the artist intended.
webmaster joe

 

[korn_ste]

Strange but nice little sets of pics........... torturous!!!!!!!!