Does this sound like border line prostitution?

[Em Es]

What consenting adults do

What consenting adults do is nobody's business unless it harms a third party. If someone wants you to pay for his or her time & favors, take it or leave it.

God knows it's hard enough to make a relationship last, let alone finding someone who shares or at least understands your enthusiasm for tickling. For that reason, sometimes I think we should all have a platonic tickle friend, someone with whom we can play, no strings attached. And for those who don't have such a tickle buddy, a dominatrix or some other such tickle-for-pay arrangement is an option.

 

[tickles]

wow....I sure see a double standard here. I have seen men in the personals section asking to pay for tickle sessions or asking to pay a woman to tickle her..."willing to pay"....I also see very little difference between this arrangement and what happens in local dungeons or foot worship parties. The mistresses and foot girls are paid to be tickled or foot sucked....or paid to reciprocate.......is any of it or All of it prostitution?
Interesting topic....but this is not an outrageous IDEA by this young lady.....we see and hear of girls being paid to be tickled a lot.

 

[rhiannon]

is any of it or All of it prostitution?

If you offer a sexual act for pay, yes, it is prostitution. And tickling, if done for sexual pleasure, IS a sexual act!

I sure see a double standard here. I have seen men in the personals section asking to pay for tickle sessions or asking to pay a woman to tickle her

Unless one of those personal ads was made by the TO, where do you see double standard?

but this is not an outrageous IDEA by this young lady.....we see and hear of girls being paid to be tickled a lot.

What is so fucked up about this situation is that the girl first met him for tickling and sexual play because she enjoyed it. And now she suddenly wants money for it. THAT is the part that's just ridiculous.

 

[tkpatience]

If a person affiliated with law tries to bate you into a situation, isn't that considered entrapment?

Granted that inchoate proof is all it takes to mess up ones life as seen on shows like 'To Catch a Predator.

Another thing to take in consideration is that, though morally the situation may be borderline, anything fetish related would be considered prostitution. Things like Fetcon, Footnight, even NEST could be considered prostitution using a particularly narrow logical view. I think consent and intent play a huge role in the argument of prostitution vs erotica.

Simply paying a model to do nude modeling does not constitute as prostitution.

This might sound a bit over the top, but it seems in the legal system of today, the only sure thing is that you get it in writing. If you draw up a contract that specifically states that both parties are consenting adults with no intention of sexual activity/penetration that it constitutes as merely a gathering of like minded individuals coming together to meet in a time, place, and manner appropriate for such a meeting.

 

[Myriads]

Prostitution means there has to be a sexual exchange that involves penetration of the male organ into an some opening of the person being paid, or the production of the payers orgasm through physical manipulation.

In short for a guy, if you pay to stick it in something, or get jacked off with a hand or boobs or whatever, then you have hired a Prostitute.

In the case of the OP he'd be hiring a person for "Professional services" much like a physical therapist, massage specialist, a sports coach, tutor, etc.

That the client becomes aroused in the interaction does not make it prostitution in the legal sense.

Myriads

 

[rhiannon]

There is a difference between legal and common sense though. 🙂

 

[TangerineTicklee]

Uhm...huh? I didn't get that!

@Haribish: Makes sense...to a point....I guess with a good lawyer you could stretch and bend things however you wanted. 🙂

What do you mean? 😕

I'm just saying that could be a possibility. I could be wrong. I am socially inept, you know.

 

[TRU]

Paying to tickle a girl? That's ridiculous, man save your money and find another girl that lets you do it for free. Unless you plan on recording the video, and distributing it, then fuck paying for it.

 

[rhiannon]

What do you mean? 😕

I'm just saying that could be a possibility. I could be wrong. I am socially inept, you know.

I honestly didn't understand what you were trying to say with your post. 🙂

 

[Fire_Sprite]

I think she was saying that the lack of clothing was to expose the OP's vulnerable spots for tickling and not in an attempt to make the situation more erotic.

 

[TangerineTicklee]

I think she was saying that the lack of clothing was to expose the OP's vulnerable spots for tickling and not in an attempt to make the situation more erotic.

That's it. 😀 Thank you.

It's all good. 😎

 

[Musicroxmysox]

What is so fucked up about this situation is that the girl first met him for tickling and sexual play because she enjoyed it. And now she suddenly wants money for it. THAT is the part that's just ridiculous.

I totally disagree that this is screwed up. The first time she decided that she wanted to have a session and it perhaps went a bit father then she thought. Maybe she really enjoyed it and thought hey, I could make some kind of career out of it how many models and producers here have made careers out of their love of tickling?

What is ridiculous is that a simple no (if the poster in question felt like he didn't want to session) would have sufficed. Furthermore, I see nothing wrong with someone saying that they offer a service but this is how much it will cost. If the person offering enjoys what they are doing and they are formulating it into some kind of career (main or otherwise) they why should they not get paid for their services. Equate it to something regular, if you walked into a coffee shop the person who is serving the coffee (providing the service) expects to get paid for giving the coffee.

The argument of this being prostitution is also ridiculous because no where was it ever stated that she was offering to do sexual acts. As repeated multiple times before prostitution is only linked to sexual acts. If you view tickling as sexual that is fine, but no where has anyone stated they will be engaging in sexual acts. And furthermore just because she may have done some sexual stuff before does not mean she will this time.

 

[Sandisk444]

as it's been said alot, no it's not the same when you have to pay them for tickling, not as fun as if you were doing it for fun

 

[Fire_Sprite]

The argument of this being prostitution is also ridiculous because no where was it ever stated that she was offering to do sexual acts. As repeated multiple times before prostitution is only linked to sexual acts. If you view tickling as sexual that is fine, but no where has anyone stated they will be engaging in sexual acts. And furthermore just because she may have done some sexual stuff before does not mean she will this time.

If it's a sexual act to him and she knows it then this is easily comparable to prostitution. The current legal definitions of "prostitution" only constitutes things like penetration and mutual masturbation because those are the most commonly practiced activities amoung the populus during sex. If the law had to branch out to encompass all paraphilias then everything would be banned.

The point is, if you're paying someone so that they'll give you sexual gratification, it's a form of prostitution. Saying it doesn't count because you don't bump uglies is just hiding behind a technicality.

 

[Gadilici]

It's only prostitution if there is contact with the genitals for the purpose of sexual gratification ('jaculation), or maybe less if you're state's laws define it as such. I remember back in the 90's, a kissing booth was technically prostitution in Ohio.

I've paid for tickling before. As long as the girl was ticklish it was fun. Of course that was something of a rarity for me to stumble across.

It seems from most of the answers, tho, it's being treated philosophically. Philosophically for me, it's as I said at top.

Legally, well, that depends on what your state says. If being tickled by or tickling a naked girl is not defined as prostitution in the statutes, then the question is strictly the philosophical one.

I for one don't think it is prostitution.

Christopher

 

[rhiannon]

I totally disagree that this is screwed up. The first time she decided that she wanted to have a session and it perhaps went a bit father then she thought. Maybe she really enjoyed it and thought hey, I could make some kind of career out of it how many models and producers here have made careers out of their love of tickling?

That's the point. She enjoyed it. She enjoyed being with the guy and enjoyed what was done to her. And now she suddenly wants money from him. Sorry, that is screwed up! If I now told my ler "hey, next time we'll meet I will charge you", he'll probably tell me - and rightfully so! - that I am crazy! If she charged him from the get-go, okay. But why start now?

Furthermore, I see nothing wrong with someone saying that they offer a service but this is how much it will cost.

She didn't offer a freaking service, she was meeting up with him to play! That's like if I go out with a guy for dinner and a movie, and next time he asks me to go out with him, I'm like "Yeah cool, but this time the night will cost you 200 bucks because, hey, I am offering an escort service from now on". Ridiculous, right?

Equate it to something regular, if you walked into a coffee shop the person who is serving the coffee (providing the service) expects to get paid for giving the coffee.

Sorry, that equation would only work if he met her in a dungeon where they gave away free samples!

The point is, if you're paying someone so that they'll give you sexual gratification, it's a form of prostitution. Saying it doesn't count because you don't bump uglies is just hiding behind a technicality.

Exactly my thoughts!

 

[tkpatience]

Prostitution means there has to be a sexual exchange that involves penetration of the male organ into an some opening of the person being paid, or the production of the payers orgasm through physical manipulation.

In short for a guy, if you pay to stick it in something, or get jacked off with a hand or boobs or whatever, then you have hired a Prostitute.

In the case of the OP he'd be hiring a person for "Professional services" much like a physical therapist, massage specialist, a sports coach, tutor, etc.

That the client becomes aroused in the interaction does not make it prostitution in the legal sense.

Myriads

Myriads has spoken. Let it be known. If there's anyone that I trust on this forum it's an admin. The only other admin who probably just as believable would be MTP Jeff himself.

 

[milagros317]

What is ridiculous is that a simple no (if the poster in question felt like he didn't want to session) would have sufficed. Furthermore, I see nothing wrong with someone saying that they offer a service but this is how much it will cost. If the person offering enjoys what they are doing and they are formulating it into some kind of career (main or otherwise) they why should they not get paid for their services.

What consenting adults do is nobody's business unless it harms a third party. If someone wants you to pay for his or her time & favors, take it or leave it.

God knows it's hard enough to make a relationship last, let alone finding someone who shares or at least understands your enthusiasm for tickling. For that reason, sometimes I think we should all have a platonic tickle friend, someone with whom we can play, no strings attached. And for those who don't have such a tickle buddy, a dominatrix or some other such tickle-for-pay arrangement is an option.

I agree with the two I've quoted above. There is nothing whatsoever morally wrong with offering a service for a fee, just as a Domme does. You are free to go ahead or say no thanks.

 

[mass1926]

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[seanwoj]

Well man, I'm only gonna say what everyone else is basicly doing:

You do what YOU think is right. Pay or dont pay.

Theres my two cents -- seanwoj

 

[Musicroxmysox]

Well if you had bothered to read any of my other posts, she has taken the intiative in the past to progress to sexual endeavors. Furthermore, if a person gets aroused from the tickling, it is sexual stimulation and thus can be considered receving a payment for derived sexual pleasure. Again, this is a person I have met and talked with frequently, and I know this person gets sexual arousal from this sort of stuff.

1. I read all of your other posts, so don't assume I didn't (you know the saying about that I hope.)

2. If she took the initiative and you were not comfortable then why didn't you say stop. Oh wait, cause duh, you liked it and were happy to have someone gratify you. Don't complain now that she doesn't want to get you off because you feel she should.

3. Again, if you don't want to have sessions just politely tell her no thank you. I would rather not play when I have to pay.

 

[mass1926]

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[WheresThe Clip?]

How many women have you dated, that will continue to have sex with you if you never: take them out anywhere nice, spend some money on them, buy them gifts etc. etc. Does that make these respectable women prostitutes ? Wise up people, most sexual encounters have some sort of financial or material goods transaction attached to them. After all how many drop dead beautiful women, do you see dating and giving it up, to poor unemployed guys. This is how the world goes round.

in this particular case however the lady' s approach does sound a little crass, so I would suggest you stay away. However don't moan about it too much either, you refused so leave it at that.

 

[mass1926]

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[WheresThe Clip?]

I agreed with you up to the point where you took the offensive and accused me of moaning. I simply posted this thread initially to see if other people viewed it as prostituion. What is up with the "keyboard toughguys" that ridicule people in unjust manners. I basically wanted to determine if others out there consider it prostitution. I never had any intention on paying this girl to tickle her, nor do I give a shit if she is gets horny from it. All I wanted to know in the first place was if people think its prostitution if you paid to do a nonsexual act, that could result in stimulation.

Man I think the problem here is that you seem hypersensitive.

However to try a different approach, suppose we all turn round and agree with you and say yes this is definately prostitution. What is your next move/reaction then ? Do you want this person to be banned from the TMF, are you going to call the Police ?