Emily Gets The Worst Tickling Of Her Life!

[badreligion]

My, my, an old thread comes back with a tzunami of critics. If it wasn't for Myriads post, I would have discarded all of this critics as trolls, after all, I can't remember any positive posts from most of these folks, but Myriads comments validates the concerns and I must clear some things up, just to keep the record straight, not that it really matters anyway, since this is the kind of issues that I don't think anybody can win.

I don't rememeber reading your posts in support of my sensual tickling videos, those that are usually attacked all the time by people saying thats not tickling, that the real tickling videos are those where the ticklee beggs for mercy and cry. I don't remember any of you posting then.

On the other hand, where are all those folks that always flamed me for doing lame tickling videos? How come they are not here defending hard tickling videos.


Check the original date of this thread and you will see that the clip in question was posted in mid august and after that Emily has come back many times, including the Addie/Emily video and the most recent Twisted and Halloween Special. So obviously things are positive between us. If I was such a creep, Addie and Tory wouldn't have returned.

Also, come one, at least make the effort to buy one video and make a concrete critic, not one based only on a free preview. The reality is that at the end those who buy clips are the ones that point my ship to its course, so if you really want me to take this critics serious buy the kind of videos that you like and make a inteligent critic about it. Then I will sail my boat in that direction.

ya know what i gather by reading what u have to say ... when the feedback is good your all "hooray for me" yet when u get feedback u dont like you deem all the people who gave u that feedback trolls

and from a buisness point of view not a good idea calling potential costumers trolls sounds to me u dont like hearing the truth

also you say that if u were such a creep why do ur models keep comming back ?

its pretty simple even Ray Charles could see it ... its an easy payday so i think they can suck up bein tickled by someone whos has been deemed creepy by a number of people on the site

but hey thats just my opinion what do i know im just an unintelligent person

 

[skelyrata]

Then another name to the list

Ok, so, now I am "Fat-Tickler Dumb Ass Wierd Creep".

Did I miss one?

 

[badreligion]

Ok, so, now I am "Fat-Tickler Dumb Ass Wierd Creep".

Did I miss one?

never called ya dumb or fat

 

[skelyrata]

Just adding

I know.

I am just adding to the list of names people have called me in this forum.

This is an debate that no matter how much I explain I think nobody can win, because it is just a matter of opinion. All I can say is that is all part of the show and the girls know this before we start.

But if you think am a Creep, you are entitled to your opinion and am gonna have to learn to live with the notion that everytime you read or see my stuff you will be saying "Oh what a Creep!".

 

[EvilTickler82]

Ok, I must say, I believe that Skelyrata's ticklees agree with him ignoring the safeword... I think it's all a question of acting, and the real safeword might be something else.

To me it seems that all those folks who criticize him are just envious that he gets to tickle pretty and very ticklish girls like Emily, and that they come back again and again...

Greetings from Germany
Tom

 

[junior__12345]

skelyrata, keep going

 

[tickledgirl]

It sounds like there are two separate issues here.

First, did skelyrata engage in unethical and likely illegal behavior by ignoring the terms of an agreement made with his model. That seems very unlikely. We haven't seen any evidence that it happened. Going after him for what he did in a video makes as much sense as going after Anthony Hopkins for all the murders him commited in "Silence of the Lambs."

The second issue is whether it's a bad thing to tell a story about ignoring safewords. I've got to admit I kinda have a problem with that. But that's personal preference. I feel the same way about stories about NC tickling. Would those who criticized him feel the same if we were read the script for this video, or a short story based on it?

Edit: I just noticed the ad running at the top of the page: "You've never seen anyone suffer like this!!" Is that advertisement any worse than this clip? Is imposing "suffering" less objectionable than ignoring a safeword?

 

[smoothacer409]

uhh

correct me if im wrong skel...but wasn't one of your marketing points for this clip emily saying if u didnt stop then she wouldn't come back...i love your stuff man but the people have mad their point...i think the best thing now is to just suck up your pride(not saying you have too much)and apologize to the people you offended

 

[BleuFetish/Mystery Hands]

Come on! You know that one bad word from a model and I am ruined!
Do you really think am gonna risk having girls walking upset out of here?
I mean is hard enough to find them, and make them show up, the last thing I want it for them to walk out with a "I will neve come back" mind.
Do you really think that Emily would keep coming back every week if we weren't in the same page?
Its all part of the show and the fact that people is actually talking about it means that I am doing a good job in doing a video that keeps people on the edge of their seat!
Read my reply to Myriads second post below.

I said TWICE in my post that people need to realize that it might just be part of your marketing...

I said:

So the point is... Skelyrata... if this is just great video making... and you and your models are all on the same page... BRAVO... and good work!

from what you have said... you agree that safewords should not be violated. So good... I'm glad you feel that way.
BUT
it's still good to have these discussions every so often because this is a bigger issue then just one person... it's something that needs to be discussed often because it's so important. CONSENSUALITY is the cornerstone of safe sane BDSM... so as I said above.. if this is just good marketing... bravo! But let everyone be reminded how serious this issue is.

MJ

 

[lordoftheunion]

First of I have said good and bad things about your videos. So do not go generalizing about all people critiquing. Second I agree that a lot of what is said here is opinion but you have to respect others opinions no matter the implications. Third, she screams way more then she ever laughs that’s not opinion (I have several of her videos by multiple companies). And last but not least, safe words are special and very important and should not be used as marketing gimmicks. Why, because anything to do with safe words can be as Master J put it “going down a slippery slope.”

 

[skelyrata]

First of I have said good and bad things about your videos. So do not go generalizing about all people critiquing.

You are right, and I apologize to the people here for that initial reaction.
I got a little carried away.

 

[indianapolis]

What the..?

Okay, I'm not a regular poster on here, nor am I very harsh on things, but alot of people that have replied to this thread have either 1 of 2 things.
1) brain damage
or
2) no brain at all

skelyrata has politely replied to the situation in question, yet some idiots on here just don't seem to listen and argue for the sake of it, it's quite sad really.

IF he did breach any kind of agreement between the 2 i am 100% certain that the model in question would not have returned, don't you? I mean, you guys are getting so worked up about it, if the agreement was broken, how p!ssed do you think she'd be? A hell of alot more than you guys, that's for sure. And would she have continues the video if she was angry with what he did? I think not.

I'm with skelyrata on this one, it's nothing to do with him not wanting to hear the truth or that he's deeming you all trolls. It's easy for me to see you're just trying to get a rise out of the guy. This is not directed at all the people who've opposed this, respected members such as Myriads are just concerned. Others just seem to be childish in my view.

If you haven't got anything intelligent to say, and just go off arguing and insulting without any substance to you post, don't bother. You're just making yourself look sad, c'mon guys, arguing over the internet? How low can you get.

Keep up the good work skelyrata!

 

[cape444]

Okay, I'm not a regular poster on here, nor am I very harsh on things, but alot of people that have replied to this thread have either 1 of 2 things.
1) brain damage
or
2) no brain at all

skelyrata has politely replied to the situation in question, yet some idiots on here just don't seem to listen and argue for the sake of it, it's quite sad really.

IF he did breach any kind of agreement between the 2 i am 100% certain that the model in question would not have returned, don't you? I mean, you guys are getting so worked up about it, if the agreement was broken, how p!ssed do you think she'd be? A hell of alot more than you guys, that's for sure. And would she have continues the video if she was angry with what he did? I think not.

I'm with skelyrata on this one, it's nothing to do with him not wanting to hear the truth or that he's deeming you all trolls. It's easy for me to see you're just trying to get a rise out of the guy. This is not directed at all the people who've opposed this, respected members such as Myriads are just concerned. Others just seem to be childish in my view.

If you haven't got anything intelligent to say, and just go off arguing and insulting without any substance to you post, don't bother. You're just making yourself look sad, c'mon guys, arguing over the internet? How low can you get.

Keep up the good work skelyrata!

Good post. i loved that clip and i will buy the video he went far but he did not go over the limit the girl could take it stop buging him he is doing a good job keep it up

 

[lordoftheunion]

You are right, and I apologize to the people here for that initial reaction.
I got a little carried away.

Thank you skelyrata. I think this whole thing got out of hand. Keep making videos and good luck with them. I look forward to you next video.

 

[ReyaFet]

Actually, it really pissed me off when you did that to me, Sky.

He was using a vibrator on my nipples and it hurt because I have really sensitive nipples and I held out as long as I possibly could and then said RED when I needed him to stop IMMEDIATELY. It wasn't as though I said RED as soon as I felt a little uncomfortable, I needed him to STOP. He said it was "part of the scene".

You remember how pissed I was? You really gotta stop doing that shit.

My, my, an old thread comes back with a tzunami of critics. If it wasn't for Myriads post, I would have discarded all of this critics as trolls, after all, I can't remember any positive posts from most of these folks, but Myriads comments validates the concerns and I must clear some things up, just to keep the record straight, not that it really matters anyway, since this is the kind of issues that I don't think anybody can win.

I don't rememeber reading your posts in support of my sensual tickling videos, those that are usually attacked all the time by people saying thats not tickling, that the real tickling videos are those where the ticklee beggs for mercy and cry. I don't remember any of you posting then.

On the other hand, where are all those folks that always flamed me for doing lame tickling videos? How come they are not here defending hard tickling videos.

Check the original date of this thread and you will see that the clip in question was posted in mid august and after that Emily has come back many times, including the Addie/Emily video and the most recent Twisted and Halloween Special. So obviously things are positive between us. If I was such a creep, Addie and Tory wouldn't have returned.

Also, come one, at least make the effort to buy one video and make a concrete critic, not one based only on a free preview. The reality is that at the end those who buy clips are the ones that point my ship to its course, so if you really want me to take this critics serious buy the kind of videos that you like and make a inteligent critic about it. Then I will sail my boat in that direction.

 

[tickledgirl]

Actually, it really pissed me off when you did that to me, Sky.

He was using a vibrator on my nipples and it hurt because I have really sensitive nipples and I held out as long as I possibly could and then said RED when I needed him to stop IMMEDIATELY. It wasn't as though I said RED as soon as I felt a little uncomfortable, I needed him to STOP. He said it was "part of the scene".

You remember how pissed I was? You really gotta stop doing that shit.

Ummm...can I retract my comment above, where I said this was all fantasy and I was sure skelyrata wasn't really doing something truly non-consensual? Based on this...at minimum skelyrata's got some explaining to do. There's a line between NC fantasy and NC reality, and it sounds like he's crossed well over that line into some pretty ugly territory.

 

[1golfer]

get a clue kids....

A-c-t-i-n-g

 

[meangry]

Actually, it really pissed me off when you did that to me, Sky.

He was using a vibrator on my nipples and it hurt because I have really sensitive nipples and I held out as long as I possibly could and then said RED when I needed him to stop IMMEDIATELY. It wasn't as though I said RED as soon as I felt a little uncomfortable, I needed him to STOP. He said it was "part of the scene".

You remember how pissed I was? You really gotta stop doing that shit.

That is one hell of a statement to make. I mean, coming from the perspective of someone who has gone through with it (Addie, the model), if there is a problem then it should be something that is dealt with. It is not acceptable and gives people within the BDSM community a bad name. We trust each other with our lives...our partners lives...this stuff is not dangerous.

There is so much trust, that violating the safeword is very much akin to...well...rape. I am sorry, but the fact remains that the code of conduct was violated. It goes beyond Addie having her nipples played with in that manner...she said clearly she could not take it anymore and I suppose you continued on?

I mean, I am not here as a faceless critic, as some of these commentaries on your videos have been childish. But this is a serious offense, I must say. And, given photo spreads and the like for Addie, you can tell that she isn't little miss softie. I am sure she can handle quite a bit and will bite her tongue.

But it's safeword violation that will get you in trouble...if for no other reason than the fact that your model base will dry up.

 

[kdakmmt]

There have been "no consent" vids out there for years. Is ignoring a safeword any different than hiring a someone and tickling them without permission? I agree that ignoring the safeword is very bad but If the models arent pressing charges and they arent hiring someone to break kneecaps or even holding a grudge over it, then its all done. skelyrata I do believe that you should be a little more mindful of what you are doing when filming. I like what ive seen in alot of your vids but you seem to get lost in the moment and forget what youre really doing there.


*we have a brain and a penis but only enough blood to run them 1 at a time.*

 

[tickledgirl]

A-c-t-i-n-g

That was my thought too. But read Addie's post.

There have been "no consent" vids out there for years. Is ignoring a safeword any different than hiring a someone and tickling them without permission? I agree that ignoring the safeword is very bad but If the models arent pressing charges and they arent hiring someone to break kneecaps or even holding a grudge over it, then its all done. skelyrata I do believe that you should be a little more mindful of what you are doing when filming. I like what ive seen in alot of your vids but you seem to get lost in the moment and forget what youre really doing there.


*we have a brain and a penis but only enough blood to run them 1 at a time.*

It's "over and done" in the sense that no one here can sue/charge him for what's been done. But do you want to support something that you characterize as "very bad." Do you want to give him money for doing it? Recommend that others do so?

I'd very much like to hear from the man himself on this. But I can't help but notice that he never said, "No, this didn't happen." In fact he said, "If I was such a creep, Addie and Tory wouldn't have returned." That convinced me...until I read Addie's post.

 

[lordoftheunion]

Wow thank you Addie for speaking your mind. I will vouch for Addie being nothing but fair-minded and honest. This really disturbs me as a paying customer and a tickle lover. I know from experience that it is difficult to get such beautiful ladies to do this. So it makes me angry to know that some one is actively betraying trust. I ask for skelyrata to reflect on this and stop it. For if he doesn’t stop betraying trust and ignoring save words, I suggest a boycott. This can not be ignored or overlooked for the sake of the tickling community. Please what do other people think?

 

[jkb]

I thought it was a great video. I still do, and now I'm considering purchasing the clip after reading this conversation.

I don't know about Addie, but as for Emily, apparently it wasn't that big a deal because she's been back many times since then. And honestly, that clip looked like all the other clips he did with her. He did the same thing with Alexis Capri and she was perfectly fine at the end of the clip. Some people, like Myriads and Master J, et al, seem to be genuinely concerned. Others seem to be coming down on Skelyrata just for the sake of it.

Oh, and prolonged thigh tickling? AWESOME!!!

 

[ninefive]

I agree with lordoftheunion, this company should indeed be boycotted

 

[drew70]

In my opinion, the safeword issue ought to be between the tickler and the victim, and is none of my business.

 

[skelyrata]

Sorry Addie

Instead of going emotional and saying something that I might regret later, or
trying to explain in arid words what happened with Addie, I prefer to show you folks the footage of that scene so that you guys can come to you own conclusion.

"That wasn't cool!"

This footage belongs to a video that hasn't been released yet.

Sorry again Addie.