Get my girlfriend to be turned on by tickling?

[brotherted]

Maybe you misunderstood my post. Obviously humans can be conditioned, but when its your girlfriend who knows you very well she can clearly see what you're doing its not going to work like a new puppy. And you dont see whats wrong in referring someone to a dog training website for a relationship issue? Thats what my issue is here. Since this isnt a dog you dont have to creepily go behind her back and try to manipulate her mental state, believe it or not you can just tell her you want to link pleasure with tickling and that would be much more effective and honest. How happy do you think she would be if she knew you were trying to train her literally like a dog, from a dog training website?

It's incorrect to assume that because someone "can clearly see what you're doing," then therefore "it's not going to work." The subconscious mind works very differently than the conscious mind.

Countless studies have shown that even when someone's conscious mind is well aware of attempted conditioning, or that they've "seen through" to the underlying logic of what's happening, the suggestion to the subconscious is still happening anyway, very unrelated to how conscious reason works:

https://www.wired.com/story/can-placebos-work-even-when-patients-know-theyre-fake/

The placebo example is a lot like hypnosis, where the hypnotic suggestions can be completely effective, even for the subjects who remember 100% of their session and "can clearly see what you're doing."

Also, the dog reference isn't pejorative -- it's simply the Pavlov reference with which people are already familiar. All people, including you and me (and all dogs, for that matter) develop conditioned responses all the time, and yes, usually without us being aware it's happening. But again, even when we are aware of it, it generally happens anyway.

Here's an over-simplified example: If someone said to you, "I want you to develop a conditioned response. From now on, whenever I blow this air horn, I'm them going to smack you in the face." (Let's imagine you couldn't get away, etc.) Even though you were quite aware that the person was intending you to develop a conditioned response -- it wouldn't matter -- each time they blew the air horn, your heart would start racing anyway.

 

[Soles_Scream]

Hey everyone!

So I have a tickling fetish, and my girlfriend of over 2 and half years doesn't. She doesn't really mind being tickled, but I always feel bad because I'm not sure if she is just humoring me and really doesn't like it.

Anyways, recently she said that we could try classically conditioning her to like tickling with sexual actions. Basically, in this way, she will start to connect tickling with sexual pleasure, thus liking it, and being turned on by it!

I'm just wondering, has anyone else tried to like tickle someone while doing something sexual to them?

Any tips or advice would be great! 🙂

Thanks!

You will not get your girlfriend to have a tickle fetish most likely. However, by making sure she receives pleasure in ways that appeal to her, you both can win. The fact that she is open and exploring is a huge plus. Make sure you're putting the same effort in as well.

 

[clm13]

It's incorrect to assume that because someone "can clearly see what you're doing," then therefore "it's not going to work." The subconscious mind works very differently than the conscious mind.

Countless studies have shown that even when someone's conscious mind is well aware of attempted conditioning, or that they've "seen through" to the underlying logic of what's happening, the suggestion to the subconscious is still happening anyway, very unrelated to how conscious reason works:

https://www.wired.com/story/can-placebos-work-even-when-patients-know-theyre-fake/

The placebo example is a lot like hypnosis, where the hypnotic suggestions can be completely effective, even for the subjects who remember 100% of their session and "can clearly see what you're doing."

Also, the dog reference isn't pejorative -- it's simply the Pavlov reference with which people are already familiar. All people, including you and me (and all dogs, for that matter) develop conditioned responses all the time, and yes, usually without us being aware it's happening. But again, even when we are aware of it, it generally happens anyway.

Here's an over-simplified example: If someone said to you, "I want you to develop a conditioned response. From now on, whenever I blow this air horn, I'm them going to smack you in the face." (Let's imagine you couldn't get away, etc.) Even though you were quite aware that the person was intending you to develop a conditioned response -- it wouldn't matter -- each time they blew the air horn, your heart would start racing anyway.

Buddy, you're responding to an almost decade old post with an essay. Ironically when you couldn't even be bothered to read the much shorter post you're responding to properly.

Despite it almost being a decade old I still remember how creepy the dude was who I responded to. His posts were deleted by the looks of it. But that should have been obvious if you actually read what I wrote and used some common sense, instead of being blindly eager to try and give someone a psychology lesson that even the average high schooler would know... So let's go over what you missed so you can avoid embarrassing yourself in the future.

"Not going to work like a new puppy"
Nothing you wrote has anything to do with it being the same as that. It won't ever be the same. That was the point of that sentence but instead you just took one part out of context and ran with that for paragraphs.

"Also, the dog reference isn't pejorative"
Uh you weren't here, and there is no more dog reference in the thread. So where is the so called pejorative dog reference you're talking about? I don't even think you know what that word means. You're likely looking for "hyperbolic".

My post even says:
"And you dont see whats wrong in referring someone to a dog training website for a relationship issue?"

I meant that literally, and it reads that way so I don't see how you could be confused other than you just not bothering to actually read my post before responding to it. The guy was literally recommending dog training websites.. hence why I wrote that's what he was doing. Do you see anyone linking websites in the comments before I said that? No you don't. So what does that tell you?
He said some creepy things on top of that as well, which is why I replied to him because he was being a total weirdo. No surprise he got his account deleted or whatever happened to him.

Then it even says:
"How happy do you think she would be if she knew you were trying to train her literally like a dog, from a dog training website?"

It even says "literally". I literally cannot get more clear.
So how did you magically miss all of those other things in the post and just lock on to like 5 words out of the first sentence?

 

[brotherted]

Buddy...

Well, I certainly feel owned that my 243-word comment was an "essay"... by your 403-word response... that happened to include the word "ironically." 🤣🤣🤣

 

[Libertine]

My ex-wife became "conditioned" in the way that's been described; often, it was incorporated during sex, or oral, and she eventually started to enjoy it. Got to the point to where she was able to orgasm during tickle sex, and she'd beg me to tickle her feet often. I've had one other previous girlfriend who was able to get turned on by tickling, but since she was already a tactile-oriented person, it didn't take much.

This is how I introduced KT to things almost two decades ago. Slowly, patiently and gently does it. It also won't work with every woman, humanity being unpredictable but it's certainly a good way to start.