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grudges- how long is healthy???

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in ur fine opinions how long is it healthy to hold a grudge before it gets to the point where u should really just get over it???

basically iv got good reason (but not really exciting enuff to bore u with) to be very angry and reap divine vengence on a certain some1 but to be honest i thought i was over it...until last week where im at work doin one of those borin tasks where ur mind drifts and i found myself imagining this persons death in many different scenarios and it got me thinkin...after about a year and a half should this be put 2 bed now???
xxxxx
 
After a year and a half?? probably so...or you wouldn't be askin' 😀

Have you talked to this person since whatever happened?
 
that would be the answer i prob new deep down lol. nah its a bit complicated. basically i no this person did something and im pretty sure they no i no they did it but its never been spoken and since im not one to forgive and forget its been bubbling away ever since
 
Why don't you talk to them? you might not want to but until you do it'll eat you up and drain your energy...you could be thinking about tickling or somethin'
 
It may be easier said than done but the sooner you put it to rest the sooner it will stop eating at you.
 
good god sir ur right!!! iv been wasting valluable brain space that could be taken up thinking about all things tickling. ive...ive been such a fool!!!

lol but seriously i no what ur saying but talking isnt really an option. they would prob just deny it and that would then make me look the mug. i no its all very vague without goin into the whole story but thanx for your help anyways santa!
xxx
 
That’s a very difficult question to answer without specifics. I can think of some scenarios that could radically alter the discussion; i.e. was this individual responsible for the death of a loved one? Was there significant damage done to you financially or professionally? Or is this strictly a hit to you emotionally?

The question you may want to ask yourself is how long do you want this individual to have some level of control on your life? Truthfully answering that question is a good way to gage how long is long enough.
 
some thoughts for you to ponder

Hmm... I don't think it's ever "healthy" to hold a grudge per se, but then again a lot depends on how grievous was their sin.

Also, I don't beleive in "vengeance," because it has a way of coming back to get you. Judging by the way you "text type" (which makes it a little hard to read BTW) I'm probably a lot older than you~I've been around long enough to have seen firsthand that sooner or later, the universe exacts its own revenge on those who deserve it~I could write a book with some of my own real life stories on it. And trust me on this one because I can't say it loud enough:
THERE ARE SOME FATES FAR WORSE THAN DEATH.

Now, how much of this is consuming you? Are you losing sleep, self medicating, crying over this person 24/7, what??

Finally I'm not a big fan of the "just get over it" speech. Everyone's different. Some people can grieve things for years, others, not so much. Also, that's somebody else discounting your feelings, telling you they think they're more important than you and it's a shitty thing to say. "I'll get over it when I feel like getting over it and not when you tell me to," is something I've had to tell people many times.

And I kind of agree with Jeff (Santa Fe) and Tony~look, if you truly can't talk to them about this (and why not, BTW? Will they blow up into a million tiny pieces?? It's just talk), then maybe you might want to forget about them and go on with your life, chalk it up, yanno? There's some people that just aren't worth your pain.

I beleive it was the amazing Dalai Lama who wisely once said, "Even if you lose, don't lose the lesson."
XOXO

in ur fine opinions how long is it healthy to hold a grudge before it gets to the point where u should really just get over it???

basically iv got good reason (but not really exciting enuff to bore u with) to be very angry and reap divine vengence on a certain some1 but to be honest i thought i was over it...until last week where im at work doin one of those borin tasks where ur mind drifts and i found myself imagining this persons death in many different scenarios and it got me thinkin...after about a year and a half should this be put 2 bed now???
xxxxx
 
The question you may want to ask yourself is how long do you want this individual to have some level of control on your life? Truthfully answering that question is a good way to gage how long is long enough.

Quoted for truth.
 
I've noticed that a certain type of person holds grudges forever, and others just brush it all off. Depends on your personality really.

I'm the kind of person who can't hold one long. That person comes over and talks to me, I'll talk with them. My not wanting to talk to you at all, for good, means just that- we were never cut out to be friends. No hard feelings. I wish you well. That kind of thing.
 
your right of course... i just go through a little see-saw motion where i think: ok ill swallow this time but then it comes back and i think nah why should i? but anyway im sure thing will work out they usually do
xxxxxx
 
Depends on what the person did to earn the grudge in the first place.

Something small id say yeah get over it and try again.
If like me a friend stole 3k from you and used it to go on a dream shagging holiday in Australia for a month ... id continue planning those scenarios 🙂
 
After a year and a half?? probably so...or you wouldn't be askin' 😀

^Bingo.

The single most useful piece of advice I've ever given that is applicable to damn near any situation is this:

Move in the direction of your doubt.

That is to say, the moment you question something, or instinct or "that little voice" raises an objection, it's an indicator of doubt. Listening to your doubt and moving accordingly is far more often than not the safest of your options.

You're questioning your actions. You should listen to why you question.


Beyond that, on the matter of grudges, I have a different view than most. While I agree that unnecessary stress presents a problem, I do not think a grudge must always induce this.

It would be nice if we could always just give up grudges, and things would be happy, but the human being did not so evolve. People keep grudges because there is survival benefit in them. They are evidence of a lesson well-learned that an object or person presents a threat.

The problem then becomes, how do I retain the survival benefit of the lesson, while discarding the survival deficit of undue stress? It takes some practice, but it's a matter of processing and compartmentalizing. Just as there is "hot-blooded" and "cold-blooded" murder, so are there hot and cold-blooded grudges.

Most people process a grudge hot-bloodedly. This is their failure. They become obsessive, their blood pressure rises at the mere mention of a person, etc. They do themselves damage in this way.

I can process grudges cold-bloodedly, I've found, with no ill effects, but the ability to smile a bit when one against whom I hold a grudge has a personal failure. My grudges are passive, cold. It's not exactly Buddhist of me, I know, but maybe a bit Taoist -- I appreciate the rebalancing of things.

ADDENDUM: Most people wouldn't even consider what I do to be holding a grudge, it's so minor and innocuous. It's really just the next best thing to not caring at all, but to be honest with myself (and you), I can never say I'm totally apathetic to someone else. So if I smile once in a blue moon at someone's well-deserved failure, I don't consider it a big deal, I consider it human, and it requires no energy to maintain.

To hold an active grudge would just wear me out. Don't do that.
 
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Holding a grudge is pointless. At least in my opinion anyways. If you don't want to have anything to do with this person then simply don't. But don't waste time being angry with them. Chances are that person hasn't given this a second thought.
 
Well my 2 cents is you really can't give a certain time limit to holding grudges.
You'll get over it when you feel you are ready.
You can't be like "Oh well it's been 1 week, 3 hours, and 2 minutes I think it's time for my grudge to be over!"
I mean ... it takes so much more than that.
Acceptance ... patience... forgiveness. I just think you can't put a time limit on that.
 
Its one of my biggest downfalls as well. I have a HUGE chip on my shoulder, and for some reason, I can never forget, or forgive. I wish I could though.
 
I'm pretty easy to sway. I could be furious at a person but if they come talk to me or especially if they come confront me about it I can forgive them pretty easily. It's why if I ever make someone mad with something I do or say, I try to confront them as soon as possible. Because I know with me, if someone just leaves things as they are I can pretty well dislike them forever. I've never actively hoped death on someone before, but I've sent some pretty decent hate rays in their general direction.
 
I am more of a forgive but NOT forget type of person. Holding a grudge does not do anything for me but raise my blood pressure🙂 Forgiving (or moving on maybe?) does not mean forget what happened. Forgetting can allow it to happen again, but letting it eat away at you can give ya an ulcer🙂
 
Forever. Nevar forgive. Nevar forget. Wrath is holy and vengeance divine, beware the wrath of a patient man and all that jazz.



No but seriously I think you should be sore about something for as long as it's still sore; either bring it to a head and get some resolution or let it hurt for as long as it's going to while you work past it.
 
The very best advice I have ever been given was this...

Choosing to NOT forgive someone only hurts you and not them. Why would you want to hurt yourself? Now rememberance runs deep and you don't have to forgive BUT for your own sanity... forgive yourself.
 
As someone who bottles things up, I can tell you it's not healthy to hold grudges, at all. Resentment can eat at your insides like battery acid, and probably cause ulcers. However, when you bottle it up, the pressure builds over time, to the point where there's no constructive way to vent it without exploding on the person in question (Unlike wine, old problems don't get better with age!), so I couldn't tell you a good way to get over it. If you figure out the answer, let me know!
 
in ur fine opinions how long is it healthy to hold a grudge before it gets to the point where u should really just get over it???


u shood never get ovur it hertz. u shoood hold onto it unil teh dae u die.

kill them twice 4 mee.:scream:
 
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