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Hawaiian Trip in August

@LindyHopper: So just to be clear, you're saying that there is no distinction between a pedophile using children to get off, and a tickle fetishist tickling someone for the same reason? I'm not asking this to be combative or difficult, but the fact is my question was inspired by precisely the knowledge that there are courses of action which are more conventionally objectionable--pedophilia, for example--than others, which then led me to wonder about whether or not there could be degrees of acceptability.
 
@XAsMoXDeUsX: It is an analogy, and an apt one at that. In both cases, someone is indulging in a sexual fetish, without the informed consent of the other participant, under the cover of seemingly innocent activity (namely tickling, or a taking a picture).

Ever hear of Representative Eric J. Massa? He is a former member of Congress, who had to resign, because he was tickling his staffers.

I love tickling. I do it at home. I do it out in fetish clubs and parties. I do it in couples and in groups. But I always do it only with partners who know and understand that it is a sexual fetish.
 
@ Icycle: Correct me if I'm wrong, but your explanation actually casts many, possibly even most, of the stories in this section in a more questionable light--all of those cutesy, coming of age stories about some dude tickling the most popular girl in school are every bit as 'creepy' as other members have found tkl-pen's most recent contribution to be, as in both cases the ticklee hasn't been given the full story.
 
Maybe this is a stupid analogy but I wonder if I need to tell a girl giving me food that I'm going to enjoy eating it and its going to fill my belly. Obviously, if I'm going to tickle a girl or massage her feet, I'm going to enjoy it.
 
@LindyHopper: so basically in ur analogy if a pedophile is watchin childerin in a park just o get a hard on then that is wrong, same goes for a foot fetishist who watches feet just to get a hard on...

so i guess no matter the way u look at it having a fetish of nekind regardless is wrong and should be frowned upon... so then i guess we should take down the forum since it caters to something wrong and we should all be put in jail for public indecency. u know regardless of the intentions of it, comparing tickling someone to a pedophile taking pictures of kids is just plan wrong and i take a lot of offense to that. and ask around im not one to be offended easily either

u know if u find something creepy then go ahead voice ur opinion about it, i for one am not going to listen/ read ppl bashing someone else who they dont even know and will probably never meet... oh and this discussion should be taken to the discussion baord seeing as how this thread is used to critic the story and such and not discuss creepiness and other things....

thats all i have to say so the ignorant ppl on here can shut it ty 🙂
 
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@LindyHopper: So just to be clear, you're saying that there is no distinction between a pedophile using children to get off, and a tickle fetishist tickling someone for the same reason?

Just to be clear: there is an essential difference between using children to get off, and using pictures/stories/fantasies of children to get off. The former case is reprehensible, because it involves molesting an actual child. But the latter? I actually have a hard time morally condemning someone for using their imagination, whether it's thoughts of tickling, rape, or children. It's not real, so where's the moral problem? This is just my opinion, I know not everyone agrees.

In any event, I think we should stop for a moment and consider that "immoral" and "creepy" are two different things - often overlapping, but still distinct.


thats all i have to say so the ignorant ppl on here can shut it ty 🙂

Quoted for funny. 😎

Anyway, I think the analogy stands for a variety of reasons. In both cases, the fetishist's actions are completely legal. In both cases, the unknowing subject is completely unharmed. If one's standards of morality are primarily based on avoiding causing harm to others (as mine are), then neither act is morally wrong.

The original accusation in this thread was a charge of "creepy." Staring at a woman's breasts instead of her eyes is "creepy." A 60-year-old sending PMs exclusively to 18-year-olds is "creepy." None of these things are illegal. I don't even think they're immoral. But "creepy?" In my opinion? Yes. In yours? Perhaps not. This is just an opportunity for us to explain our opinions.
 
yeah i put that part for a laugh here and there 😉 but ik where u r coming from just needed a clearer explaination is all. yes i find those things creepy as well and creepy is a base of personal opinion. i just originally posted on this thread because i didnt think it was cool to jsut start condoning pen as a creep like that.
 
MY TRIP TO HAWAII - 2010

So many people scoffed at me when I offered to tickle session in Hawaii, I
thought I would give a quick review of my tickling activities. Keep in
mind, I think about tickling every day and it’s probably beyond an
obsession for me - more like a sexual orientation - and I am always on the
lookout for a tickling opportunity.

(1) On the flight down, I was seated in the aisle seat of the front row with a
newly married couple beside me - the husband in the middle and the wife in
the window seat - my wife, son and brother-in-law were across the aisle in
the other front row. The wife, a good-looking blonde woman about six feet
tall (which I find unattractive) put her feet across the husband’s lap and into
the space between my knees and the wall - these were big feet as would be
expected. My wife, knowing I have a foot and tickling fetish, was laughing
at me since I clearly found this woman’s big feet in my space gross.

(2) In Kona, coming out of the swimming pool I put my towel in the
laundry room at the Hilton Waikaloa. It was evening, there was nobody else
around and there was a pretty Japanese tourist doing her laundry. Since I do
speak Japanese (fairly well, anyway), I got a conversation going and found
out her feet were sore from walking that day. Hello! I offered to massage
her sore feet which were fabulously soft and got a few tickles in. My wife
and her husband were both in their respective rooms at the time.

(3) In the monorail at the Hilton Waikaloa, I was sitting across from a
Latino women in her late twenties who had the nicest feet in open sandals. I
struck up a conversation, complemented her feet and had them in my hands
in no time.

(4) In Honolulu, I went to a massage therapist who was a Japanese lady in
her mid thirties for my sore hip (I have some arthritis there and it hurts). In
my 1-hour massage we talked about different things and I mentioned what
had happened to me at a massage parlor once and how I didn’t know what
her place was exactly, talked about dungeons which she said are called s-m
clubs in Japan (I knew that very well, of course). Hello! There was nobody
else there in the massage clinic, she had told me how hard it was to make
money since there are too many massage therapists and she was a single
mother, so I offered her an extra twenty dollars if she would get up on the
table and I could tickle her feet for ten minutes. She went for it and, instead
of seventy-five dollars, I gave her a hundred.

(5) Went for a drive around Honolulu and stopped at a Jack-In-The-Box, a
real treat since we don’t have it in Canada, and saw a Hawaiian girl, late
twneties, with two tote bags outside at the bus stop. This was a rural area
outside of Honolulu. My wife was still inside with my disabled son and
brother in law eating and I went out to the car. She smiled at me and came
over to offer her services. I told her I’d give her fifty bucks if I could tickle
her. That got me nearly half an hour with her seated in the passenger seat of
my rented 4x4 tickling her feet, her legs, her sides and her belly.

(6) We went to a Hawaiian store that had hula dancers who ended up
dancing for me in a special show since their regular shows were already
done but I asked the manager. It was only six dances done by the three girls
and I noticed that one had nail polish on her toes. I know quite a bit about
Hawaiian culture and I told the manager that this girl was violating a kapu
(a taboo) by doing that. It turned out this girl had been having some bad
luck and I suggested that might be because the God’s were angry. To have
it forgiven, she would have to be punished in the way Hawaiians punished
the women in earlier days by tickling her feet. With the manager and the
other two girls present, I got to tickle not only that girl but the other two as
well. I bought quite a bit at that store.

(7) At an all-day luau type place, a girl from New Zealand around 20 years
old, brown-skin, dark brown eyes, long black hair, caught my eye and she
knew it since I was filming her almost exclusively. That evening, while she
was dancing in a show and I was sitting in the fifth row, she was looking at
me almost the whole time as I was communicating with her by looks and
gestures. She met me afterwards, while my family was shopping for
souvenirs, told me she was a university student (I already knew that) - I
asked her if money was a problem and ended up tickling her in a nearby
storage room for a hundred dollars.

(8) White sitting at the show in the fifth row, with now six of us since my
son and his girlfriend had arrived, my wife was in the second seat from the
aisle and I was in the sixth seat. The seat beside me was empty. Before the
show started, a really cute Japanese girl sat in that seat and the theatre was
dark. I started a few words in Japanese including akai (cute) in reference to
the dancers. She asked me waht that meant and I found she was a Chinese
girl from Beijing named Angela Lo Tung. We got along and I mentioned
the word kusuguri (Japanese for tickle) - she asked me what that meant.
Hello! I showed her by tickling her sides and her legs as she allowed me to.
My wife, five seats away, was oblivious to it - the dancer above, who was
watching me, was not.

(9) On the flight home, I had the front row aisle seat again and a girl who
had hurt herself in a moped accident was in the middle seat and she had to
stretch her legs. I ended up with her naked feet on my lap, massaging and
occasionally tickling them.

10) tkl-pen wakes up as the pilot announces the beginning of his plane's descent into Hawaiian airspace. He feels a warm, damp sensation in his underwear, and the dirty looks from the passengers around him confirm his fears. Ever prepared, tkl-pen excuses himself, pulls his backup underwear from his carry on bag, and heads for the lavatory.
 
10) tkl-pen wakes up as the pilot announces the beginning of his plane's descent into Hawaiian airspace. He feels a warm, damp sensation in his underwear, and the dirty looks from the passengers around him confirm his fears. Ever prepared, tkl-pen excuses himself, pulls his backup underwear from his carry on bag, and heads for the lavatory.

If tickling was sexual to me, you might have a point. After the 9th part, I was back home dreaming of the day I could return to Hawaii.
 
Spiffy, you really want to discredit me and that's fine - a sexual orientation does not in and of itself denote sexual activity or sexual thinking - a gay man has a need to be in the company of other man rather than women because he is comfortable there - for me, I don't consider tickling to be sexual but rather power and control. I don't know how to explain it any further than that.
 
It's enough, kid, and in the immortal words of Rachel on Big Brother 2010 'I'm so over you' - go tickle your little girlfriend and have fun - meanwhile, I'll go and tickle those girls I want to tickle - I'm not a young kid like you and I have to be a lot more aggressive and innovative to get to tickle a girl in her twenties than you do - all the best!
 
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It's enough, kid, and in the immortal words of Rachel on Big Brother 2010 'I'm so over you' - go tickle your little girlfriend and have fun - meanwhile, I'll go and tickle those girls I want to tickle - I'm not a young kid like you and I have to be a lot more aggressive and innovative to get to tickle a girl in her twenties than you do - all the best!

I know plenty of older men who don't have to be creepy in order to tickle girls, even ones in their 20's. You're trying to play the older man that uses his cane to lift up girls skirts because that's the only way he thinks he can get anything. Nothing is preventing you from acting like a normal human being and forming some level of a normal relationship with a girl, and then from there seeing where you can get as far as tickling goes. But that's of course not what you care about. You're simply doing this to get your rocks off.
 
Seems you are catching some hell on this amigo when you are just trying to relay an experience. Sounds like you have enough intelligence to put this in the fiction category if it is such so why should I doubt your word. Sounds like you had a helluva good time and took advantage of that which was available. We should all be so industrious.

I just wanna hear more about the Hawaiians using tickling as whatever.
 
Mr. Pen, I approve of your message and methods because when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, you're doing things that others only fantasize about or wish they had to guts to. My hat goes off to you sir.

Keep posting.
 
tkl-pen, is your wife ticklish but can't stand to be tickled or does she not like the idea of a tickle fetish? Did you have any successful tickle times with your bride that you can share? Thank you for the stories.
 
Just went through reading this story as well as the entire thread......wow. First off, tkl_pen, I'd really like to work with your budget!! Secondly, I don't think your actions are creepy, I think it's the same thing vanilla folks do. When the opportunity presents itself, seize the moment.......I mean, the prostitute in the car while your family was in Jack in the Box, me personally I wouldn't have done but aside from that, do what you do. You've broken no laws, you've molested no one in the name of tickling, so it is what it is.
 
...if this much acrimony characterizes actual forum gatherings then I think I'd prefer tickle-it-up in the relative safety of Afghanistan! #toofar #banned
 
I wanna say one thing... Spiffy... I agree with you wholeheartedly. Honestly, the fact that you were with your WIFE, brother in law and son on a trip to hawaii and you couldn't contain your fetish for the time you were there is a little ridiculous. I am pretty sure most people are here because they share the same fetish, we all have that quality, its what brought us to the forum. But the way you are looking at it Tkl-Pen is horribly wrong. Yes you were helping somebody out, yes you gave them money when they needed it, but I am assuming... that 1) they didn't know it was a fetish and 2) that you were there with your wife and kid. And by they didn't know it was a fetish I mean that you didn't tell them specifically that what you did turns you on because regardless if you were talking about someone's feet with them or not, there is no way somebody can make the assumption that you just wanted to tickle them for fun. But in the end, Spiffy you are right... a little overboard and creepy if you ask me.
 
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