Heath Ledger found dead

[duck171]

I want to make this thread go one more day just to see exactly what Timewarp is threatening to do...

Gotta say, I'm intrigued...

Don't worry, Bashiku, I won't...I do, however, like to learn from the past to hopefully make the future brighter...and take the memory of loved ones, who are no longer alive, with me...always with me in spirit...🙂

I am curious as well. I am sure it will be memorable!

 

[alwayssilver]

You know Timewarp you have problems. My suggestion is YOU move on. Maybe you don't give a fuck but the rest of the world does. NOW MOVE THE FUCK ON!!! Moron!

I got a better suggestion....move on.

People die every day, and we don't give a damn
So when it someone we saw for 7.00$ all of the sudden the world stops?

F*** that bs and move on. I swear if this thread goes on one more day...

 

[Timewarp]

Oh i'm sorry, was Heath such a big star? I wasn't even aware of his existence until the 24 hour coverage on fox news. You see this is what happens when people idolize Hollywood way too much. Oh really what was his world amazing achievement? Getting **** in Brooke back mountain?

I give respect were respect is due. Yes it's sad he died but he isn't the only person who died that day. Just look in your local obituary for that day. Where were all those people's front page headliner or extensive coverage. What I don't respect is how shallow we become when we lose something or someone you have no personal relationship to unless it was through the tv.

I didn't care when that fat girl died, whatever her name was and I don't care about this heath whatever.

When everyone gets the chance to have the whole world cry for them, i'll start caring, until then may he rest in piece and everyone else just look to the next motion picture. I'm sure you'll have someone else to worship soon enough.. I hear Larry the Cable Guy is getting a new movie.

Bite me silver and bite me hard.

 

[duck171]

He shoots He scores!

 

[alwayssilver]

Says the loser who keeps posting! Telling everyone he doesn't care! Wow really showed me... It's called 'Empathy!' He doesn't have to be a big star to get some of that! It's called being HUMAN! Showing compassion! Not being a pompus ass like you! And bite you? Bite you hard? What are you some two year old? Next your going to call me a poopy head and tell me all about how your dad could beat up my dad.

Oh i'm sorry, was Heath such a big star? I wasn't even aware of his existence until the 24 hour coverage on fox news. You see this is what happens when people idolize Hollywood way too much. Oh really what was his world amazing achievement? Getting **** in Brooke back mountain?

I give respect were respect is due. Yes it's sad he died but he isn't the only person who died that day. Just look in your local obituary for that day. Where were all those people's front page headliner or extensive coverage. What I don't respect is how shallow we become when we lose something or someone you have no personal relationship to unless it was through the tv.

I didn't care when that fat girl died, whatever her name was and I don't care about this heath whatever.

When everyone gets the chance to have the whole world cry for them, i'll start caring, until then may he rest in piece and everyone else just look to the next motion picture. I'm sure you'll have someone else to worship soon enough.. I hear Larry the Cable Guy is getting a new movie.

Bite me silver and bite me hard.

 

[alwayssilver]

Oh and I guess this is what you had in mind, huh? This post lasted one more day and the great thing you had in mind is!!!! Continuing your little rant. Great job.

 

[alwayssilver]

Oh and let me tell you this! Since you bring up Christianity than you should know that when they buried Jesus they didn't just forget him. They actually grieved long after his death. You know I think we still do.

I have one recommendation... let dead rest in peace. Just by talking about them by Christianity you are committing a sin, for he did not disappear, he is just in hands of God.

 

[Wade1]

Oh i'm sorry, was Heath such a big star? I wasn't even aware of his existence until the 24 hour coverage on fox news. You see this is what happens when people idolize Hollywood way too much. Oh really what was his world amazing achievement? Getting **** in Brooke back mountain?

I give respect were respect is due. Yes it's sad he died but he isn't the only person who died that day. Just look in your local obituary for that day. Where were all those people's front page headliner or extensive coverage. What I don't respect is how shallow we become when we lose something or someone you have no personal relationship to unless it was through the tv.

I confess your reasoning seems a little strenuous to me. It's not realistic to expect everyone to feel exactly the same about every single person who dies; nor is it humane to expect everyone to feel nothing about anyone who dies. I'm likely to care more about the death of someone I know and love than about the death of someone I know; more about the death of someone I know than about the death of someone I merely know of; more about the death of someone I know of than the death of someone I've never heard of; and so on. And of course the circumstances of those deaths are relevant as well; each death is going to arouse a different complex set of responses based on the age, lifestyle, personality, and family situation of the decedent.

I admit I was surprised that I had any emotional reaction at all to Ledger's unexpected death, since my only knowledge of him was through his films. But there was a response there, and I suspect it was because it was an untimely death coupled with the knowledge that he was talented, that he had a child, and that he didn't seem to live like, say, Chris Farley.

Since in this century so much of what we know of the world is vicarious, it's probably unrealistic to expect people to be able to divorce their emotions entirely from the people who engineer that vicariousness.

I will agree, however, that the media circus is grotesque, but then my disgust at that is driven in part by the same feelings that made me respond to the news of Ledger's death (and also in part, however, by the conviction that all those reporters ought to be in, say, Kenya instead).

 

[Camel26]

Calm down, folks...no need for name calling, cursing, or other unpleasantries...

Death sucks, no matter who it is...and I agree with Wade that the reason I'm so baffled/affected is because of exacrly what Wade said--here's a guy who wasn't a Lohan/Hilton. He stayed out of the public eye, raised his kid, only took on roles he could respect, and had no previous history of drug use...so why is it, not to wish death or harm on anyone, that he passes and the aforementioned drug/booze/carcrash queens with all the world at their feet choose to do what they do and are still alive and not behind bars?

Bottom line: Death hurts, no matter what your status is...and, sometimes, it just doesn't make any sense.

 

[Bashiku]

I am a little annoyed by alwayssilver... is it not in your faith that all good people go to heaven to stay with God himself? If that your belief I don't see a single problem with it then... why grief?
My friend killed himself and yet I didn't let one drop of my tear... and he was a great friend...
And I just don't understand why do you have a urge to put ! everywhere were you can... no point in yelling. Your point has been taken, but there was no need to insult my or anyone else's intelligence by yelling and acting like a man who leaps before he thinks...
And about Son of God... yes I know about him, about all grief and even about his resurrection... that is probably a thing that everyone in world know about... as you remember the later part of the story everyone rejoiced for him for going into his Father's kingdom...

 

[Camel26]

Can we please not make this a religious discussion? No one shares the same views, even from the same supposed faith...so please, keep the religious views to ourselves...this is a religion-free forum...let's keep it that way...less flame wars and spamming...

 

[Bashiku]

If that is your wish... I have nothing to say against anyways... arguing is pretty boring to me...

 

[Timewarp]

I confess your reasoning seems a little strenuous to me. It's not realistic to expect everyone to feel exactly the same about every single person who dies; nor is it humane to expect everyone to feel nothing about anyone who dies. I'm likely to care more about the death of someone I know and love than about the death of someone I know; more about the death of someone I know than about the death of someone I merely know of; more about the death of someone I know of than the death of someone I've never heard of; and so on. And of course the circumstances of those deaths are relevant as well; each death is going to arouse a different complex set of responses based on the age, lifestyle, personality, and family situation of the decedent.

I admit I was surprised that I had any emotional reaction at all to Ledger's unexpected death, since my only knowledge of him was through his films. But there was a response there, and I suspect it was because it was an untimely death coupled with the knowledge that he was talented, that he had a child, and that he didn't seem to live like, say, Chris Farley.

Since in this century so much of what we know of the world is vicarious, it's probably unrealistic to expect people to be able to divorce their emotions entirely from the people who engineer that vicariousness.

I will agree, however, that the media circus is grotesque, but then my disgust at that is driven in part by the same feelings that made me respond to the news of Ledger's death (and also in part, however, by the conviction that all those reporters ought to be in, say, Kenya instead).

Thx man. It's nice that people can see logic over feelings...at least most of the time. I think it sucks too he died. But you have to move on. Cause in the end, there's nothing you can do about it. I know, I lost my Grandfather when he suffered a freak accident from leg surgery and died from a clot. I miss him but what can I do? I'm not God, I can't turn back time. My only peace I can find is through my religion, knowing he's no longer in a world of suffereing. And I know he wouldn't want me crying for his passing but to honor him. In fact I think he would be pissed how much money was spent on his funneral cause he was that kinda guy. 😛

You see, i'm not heartless. I just don't let feelings take over. I just wish the world would do the same.

So rest in peace Heath. and damn your media blitz.

 

[Sar_Casm]

WOW! All this discussion, all this coverage, I wonder if such a fuss was made by members here when mother Teresa died.
Oops....religion free forum.....How about Mr. Hooper from Sesame Street.

He lived, he died.....we can mourn, we can move on.