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How come under 18 material is band?

I agree with Auklandtklr---and think about it from the kid's pov. to pose for somethin like that, you'd better be mature enough to know what ur gettin into. I know a lotta people here talk big about being into non-consensual, but there's a limit to it!!!!

And just as an aside to the several people who said that they're legal and still pass themselves off as kids---me too!:happy:

KAREN
 
PsiRedEye22 said:
You are my idol. I wish I could use large words to debate as well, I think you pretty much summed up how 99.9% of the people at this forum feel.

I'm assuming you're talking about me. LOL ^^

Thanks. :happy:
 
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aucklandtickler said:
Well at least I know my posts get read at long last!

I agree ... underaged tickling (clothed or not) and child pornography are heavily mingled. Something innocuous, like the example of the tickling in the car mentioned above, might end up on a camera somewhere and in someone's private photo album.

That is fine - no problem with it. Once it ends up in the Gallery on an ADULT TICKLING FETISH forum, then we have a serious problem. The context has changed, and the pic is now there with the intention that it will be viewed and someone will use it for sexual gratification. Now, I'll admit that I like looking at LEGAL tickling pics. But I also see the moral dilemma inherent in doing so - the whole "degrading to women/viewing them as objects of sexual gratification" theme.

So when I do look at tickling media, I want any moral dilemmas I face to be minimised. This means that any bondage should be respectful to the ticklee (I prefer not to see them bound in overly compromising positions) and it means that the ticklee should not be in obvious pain or underage.

Is that all too much to ask? Again, I call for you thoughts.


Don't worry, I read them. Sometimes people say they don't read my posts because they're too long (usually the same people that say this to try and insult me), but I know thats a lie alot of the time, because how did they know how to respond to specific things if they didn't read it? If they skimmed it, thats still reading. LOL

I think people will always have in an interest in honest discussion like this, so they commit to the viewing and reading and if they don't agree with what people are saying.

I touched on your same point briefly in my posts, in that people just want to feel comfortable here. Even if underage pornography were not illegal, the moral values of people would be more apparent here and things would be deleted anyway. The reason we don't see an uproar over this is because the law is taking care of the majority of it already, so we need not really do anything.
 
I see where Supernaught is coming from, but I agree with Vlad and Auck! ^_^

It truly is in the eye of the beholder. What may not be porno to one man, might be porno to another!

And because this website is a tickle based one, any form of tickling can be seen as pornographic, even innocent, non-sexual stuff.

So if pictures of children under 18 are tickled on this site it can be seen as pornographic, then considered paedophelia and that's it, we're in trouble.

Now the hilary case is no exception. It is a foot tickling scene featuring two underage (not now, but in the clip) people being posted on a website made specifically for people with a tickling fetish. Now just picture that in a court of law. No excuse we give will hold up in court!

That's the way I see it, and it's only my opinion. 😀

And let me just thank the MODs for doing a great job! XD
We love you all! 😀
 
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Budweiserbob! said:
And let me just thank the MODs for doing a great job! XD We love you all! 😀

Here here! *raises a frosty in their honor*
 
Vladislaus Dracula said:
Your hypothetical situation is unfair and built in such a way that you know I cannot honestly speak against it.

Yes I guess I did build that in a way you couldnt really respond negatively to lol. I guess I just went to the opposite extreme from a photo designed to cause arrousal to just random chance. You answered me very well though, and yes I can see that the place the image would be posted has a lot to do with what the image is considered. I understand what you mean much better now, sorry I had to make an unfair situation to do it =P lol. I hope I didnt annoy or agrivate you with my example, it was just something I thought together in my head in a few moments. Thanks to everyone who replied also, its fun to debate about things in an orderly non-trolling manner =D.
 
shadowscurse said:
Yes I guess I did build that in a way you couldnt really respond negatively to lol. I guess I just went to the opposite extreme from a photo designed to cause arrousal to just random chance. You answered me very well though, and yes I can see that the place the image would be posted has a lot to do with what the image is considered. I understand what you mean much better now, sorry I had to make an unfair situation to do it =P lol. I hope I didnt annoy or agrivate you with my example, it was just something I thought together in my head in a few moments. Thanks to everyone who replied also, its fun to debate about things in an orderly non-trolling manner =D.

No need for you to worry or apologize about anything. You didn't agrivate or annoy me. I like to think I have alot of patience with people as long as they're not rude. And you weren't rude, so that made answering you a lot easier and pleasant.

I prefer to let people explain exactly what they mean so no one has to repeat themselves and theres less confusion. Part of the reason my posts are so long is because I want to make sure I cover every aspect of what I'm trying to get across in one swoop so I don't have to keep repeating myself or getting into a dragged out conversation when one post is usually enough.

One post usually includes my basic statement, the discussion of it, my opinion of it, and my final thoughts on it. It usually just springs forth from my mind. Its alot easier for me than it sounds since these thoughts just come to me and typing them is even faster.

It can be difficult sometimes to compress all of that into a couple paragraphs though, and some people think it would be more well served if I tried that, but then I wouldn't be me. I have my own style of doing it, and I know enough people appriciate it (dispite the longevity) because enough people respond and thank me or whatever (in public and private). So...I must be doing something right! LOL! 😛

So whatever ammount of effort I put in is almost always worth it. Plus, when people see that you care enough to put effort into it, they return that consideration back and give you the same so that it goes full circle. And thats what real discussion is about. I'm glad we did this. :happy:
 
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It is nice to see that some people still have the patience and ability to right a decent post with whole sentences and punctuation. Not the memo type of thing you to often see.
 
Budweiserbob! said:
I see where Supernaught is coming from, but I agree with Vlad and Auck! ^_^

It truly is in the eye of the beholder. What may not be porno to one man, might be porno to another!

And because this website is a tickle based one, any form of tickling can be seen as pornographic, even innocent, non-sexual stuff.

So if pictures of children under 18 are tickled on this site it can be seen as pornographic, then considered paedophelia and that's it, we're in trouble.

Now the hilary case is no exception. It is a foot tickling scene featuring two underage (not now, but in the clip) people being posted on a website made specifically for people with a tickling fetish. Now just picture that in a court of law. No excuse we give will hold up in court!

That's the way I see it, and it's only my opinion. 😀

And let me just thank the MODs for doing a great job! XD
We love you all! 😀

It actually sounds like you agree with my points Bob. Your argument is exactly what im saying. If a guy has a fetish for 10 year old girls and on his way home he observes them walking home from school and simply takes a look as hes on his way home...what can you do? Its not against the law to look at underage girls and as for how it stimulates him thats his buisness. As long as hes not breaking any laws which he isnt there is nothing you can do about it. You know how many brilliant leaders had wacko fetishes? J. Edgar Hoover ring a bell? Should I tout out a list of Roman Emperors? If a man gets off on something as long as he isnt breaking the law to do it thats it. The coppers cant do crap. Pornography is in your mind people. Like I said in this politically correct, repressed America that this country turned into, soon Playboy will be banned. See the movie V For Vendetta...a bit far fetched but their portrayal of England is going to be what America is gonna be like in 25 years. :sigh:
 
taragohn said:
It is nice to see that some people still have the patience and ability to right a decent post with whole sentences and punctuation. Not the memo type of thing you to often see.

I know...some of us are actually pretty good at debates it seems...are there actually INELLECTUALS around here? :wooha:
 
In my experience, when you bother to go the extra mile for somebody else they feel compelled to do the same for you. And if you have a relationship like this with the people you talk to, you're going to have better, stronger, and more worthwhile conversations and discussions often. Not typical, chit chatter. This just as much applies to our offline lives as well.

It may seem like obvious statement, but too many underestimate this and have weak and poor discussions and poor social skills because of it. Oh, how much we could learn about someone else if we'd try to listen more intently.

We live in an age where 'I needed my information yesterday!', and everyone is in some hurry, jumping from conversation to conversation like its the end of the world, running around like a chicken without a head. Rather than evolving and learning, they devolve an regress.

They need their talks to be shorter, faster, quicker, and less complicated. If its more than 3 paragraphs they exagerate and complain that it's a book or something and they don't have time for it (but when you add the time they're spending on the net anyways with these hit and run comments, it adds up to more than that one conversation would have cost them). People have literally lost their tolerance and patience and have trained themselves to not be able to visually digest larger ammounts of information and I think they're poorer for it.

It makes them intolerant, easily set off and intimidated and dismayed, and they see it as a challenge rather than an opportunity to share their opinion and possibly make an impression or gain respect. A converstation becomes an obstacle, and an opinion becomes a weight they have to lift.

I guess what I'm saying is, the internet and its 'stop and go IM chit chat, talk to you later I've got tons of other $hit to do culture' is robbing us from truely enjoying eachother's company, and its creating a slow, dim-witted people (who abbriviate everything and are barely talking english because they're lazy) who don't exercise perhaps the greatest gift of all among humans- communication. People get to express themselves this way more fully and when they get to express themselves in a more deeper way, they're more happy because they got to get it off their chest exactly as they wanted to and in a way they can be proud of. They don't feel cheated or like they had more to say but lost their chance.

We need to slow down and enjoy the moment and spend time with it, not run an internet marathon around it. It's quality of time spent on the net that matters, not quantity.
 
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Vladislaus Dracula said:
You're using an example of something I don't disagree with though. I did not once insinuate what you are saying. Your sarcasm is unnecessary and your troll-like attempt on my religious beliefs are petty.

And, if you didn't want to get involved, you shouldn't have said anything. You weren't big enough to not take offense to it, so you did it to yourself, I didn't make you post. So....in actuality...you're the one wasting my time, not the other way about. 🙂

Vlad, I apologize for my trolling attempts in this thread that were directed at you. You have a right to your opinion as do I and it was wrong of me to harrass you because we dont agree. Looking at the previous post I see we didnt disagree on what I thought so it only once again shows my ignorance. Please accept my sincere apology and I hope to read more of your posts in the future.
 
Supernaught said:
Vlad, I apologize for my trolling attempts in this thread that were directed at you. You have a right to your opinion as do I and it was wrong of me to harrass you because we dont agree. Looking at the previous post I see we didnt disagree on what I thought so it only once again shows my ignorance. Please accept my sincere apology and I hope to read more of your posts in the future.

Apology accepted. I haven't held anything against you and really, its not like what you said was at all personally hurtful. I've heard worse, and from people that really mean what they're saying. But even they are forgivable.

It took alot to admit you were wrong though. Alot of people simply don't bother to respond or are too proud or embarassed to. So, good for you. It shows you have a good character. 🙂

(I also got your PM, and rather than respond to it, this messege will do.)
 
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Vladislaus Dracula said:
Apology accepted. I haven't held anything against you and really, its not like what you said was at all personally hurtful. I've heard worse, and from people that really mean what they're saying. But even they are forgivable.

It took alot to admit you were wrong though. Alot of people simply don't bother to respond or are too proud or embarassed to. So, good for you. It shows you have a good character. 🙂

Thank you Vlad, that means a lot to me. Im glad we can be friends instead of needless enemies you see so much on these boards. 😀
 
I think to use the term "enemies" is an exageration of things, but yeah, LOL, enemies are pretty unnecessary. 😛
 
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