How common is women into f/m tickling? Are there any here in the TMF?

[Mark Madsen]

Dude, nobody was saying all men are trash. These women were just stating bad experiences with specific types of guys.

Somehow they left out all the wonderful experiences they've had with the "majority" of the guys out there right?

 

[Lee Ishler]

LMFAO, Trust me, you were, and every other male on this site was . Every female that participated in this thread used it as a "testimonial" to how awful their interactions with male lees are.

Honestly it wouldn't even surprise me if they made stuff up just to flex their imaginary superiority

Well I didn't see it that way, and even if I WAS trashed, it had nothing to do with me personally, but based more on what they've seen. There's no way they could've been referring to me, because they don't know me, and I'm nothing like the lees they described anyway. And I'm not just a lee either, I'm both.

 

[Candygirl]

Somehow they left out all the wonderful experiences they've had with the "majority" of the guys out there right?

Those experiences weren't "left out" . They don't exist. Because "the majority" are not like that. Sadly, as you are so eloquently proving, men of any tickling preference who treat women with equal and mutual respect are few and far between.

Some, like yourself, evident in the projecting you're currently doing, have a bad experience or two with women and then assume it's "all women". When on the flip side, what the women posted included things like "in my experience" or even in my case, acknowledging that it isn't all male lees that act this way but the ones that do are off putting for the most of us.

And as a final note, trust me when I say that no woman, on this site or otherwise, is going to make up anything to "flex superiority" over you or any other man. The guys like you already lower the bar far enough for the rest of them that we can spot you miles away and any sense of superiority you're feeling from them is only because they value their own self worth and can project enough confidence in that fact that it's clear they know they deserve better than you.

To be clear, you. Specifically. Not all men. And further more, OF COURSE we know it's not all men. But the trouble is, as your posts so clearly help point out, it can be tough to determine WHICH men. And therein lies the problem.

 

[Jezebel Lee]

Who pissed in your cereal, Mark? This thread was about F/M tickling and why it isn’t more popular. Fact is, the reason why female lers tend to hide is because of all the male lees wanting to use them as a walking tickle machine while providing nothing in return.

LMFAO, Trust me, you were, and every other male on this site was . Every female that participated in this thread used it as a "testimonial" to how awful their interactions with male lees are.

Dude, nobody trashed the OP, nor did anyone trash anyone on this site. Don’t start acting like Creftlin.

Honestly it wouldn't even surprise me if they made stuff up just to flex their imaginary superiority

I can literally show you my fetlife DMs if it helps you sleep at night. Or perhaps you’d like to hear about the non-ticklish lee I used to play with.

Somehow they left out all the wonderful experiences they've had with the "majority" of the guys out there right?

Maybe because this thread wasn’t about that? It just so happens that all my best experiences were with lers or ler-leaning switches. This thread was about male lees, so of course it won’t have been brought up.

For what it’s worth, if you’re interested in hearing women talk about good experiences with men, take a look at the thread about producers that actually make the models feel comfortable. But somehow I feel like you won’t because you don’t want reassurance, you’re clearly just trying to push an agenda.

Good luck attracting anyone with attitude like yours.

 

[MarkyisTickly]

Treat others as you wish to be treated Mark Madsen. Thats all I'm gonna say.

 

[Mark Madsen]

men of any tickling preference who treat women with equal and mutual respect are few and far between.

LMFAO! Thanks for proving my point

 

[Mark Madsen]

Treat others as you wish to be treated Mark Madsen. Thats all I'm gonna say.

True enough. Which is the advice I gave OP. There's no cardinal rule to what constitutes a female ler. Just talk to any woman that you're attracted to and who is attracted to you and try to have her indulge in what you like to do. Be honest and straightforward about it, don't dance around the subject, and you'll be surprised.

 

[3xPIN]

LMFAO! Thanks for proving my point

You don’t have a point. You’re just saying things.

Also, who hurt you?

 

[sensoryoverload]

If any women read this who are into online role playing here or on discord, you can pm me anytime. I’m not able to do sessions because I’m married and it would make my wife uncomfortable, but she isn’t into tickling nearly as heavily as I am so I use this place to get my ya yas out. I’ve written fiction for a long time, so I like detailed scenes that last a while with random characters from sci fi to celebrities to mythological creatures and whatever else seems fun. I’d love to just meet one or two women here I can befriend for a long time just to chit chat and also count on for a good time if we want to rp. Cheers!

 

[natscott6282]

If any women read this who are into online role playing here or on discord, you can pm me anytime. I’m not able to do sessions because I’m married and it would make my wife uncomfortable, but she isn’t into tickling nearly as heavily as I am so I use this place to get my ya yas out. I’ve written fiction for a long time, so I like detailed scenes that last a while with random characters from sci fi to celebrities to mythological creatures and whatever else seems fun. I’d love to just meet one or two women here I can befriend for a long time just to chit chat and also count on for a good time if we want to rp. Cheers!

I am on discord but I don’t rlly rp just in depth chats

 

[sensoryoverload]

I am on discord but I don’t rlly rp just in depth chats

Awesome, I sent you a pm with my discord handle.

 

[kurchatovium]

I am a male Lee. So f/m tickling is rarer but not impossible. Though I have not really found anyone. But it is out there.

 

[JosephineBlack]

I'm female and primarily a ler. I've had a bunch of people tell me it's rare, but I don't know that I really noticed that much myself. Maybe I'm just not active on here enough? I have some rough encounters, but my worst was actually as a lee.

As a ler - it feels like it would only make sense to let me take the lead and decide what pace our conversation should go. So, if you come in hot when I've not started there myself - then you probably will get ignored because we're just not on the same page. It's not a gender thing -- this would apply to anyone that reaches out.

I do know that I have been incredibly lucky in terms of the meet-ups I have had as a Ler; however, we took the time to get to know one another before we brought the fetish part into our conversations. For me, that time talking like regular people is crucial in making the rest of our interactions fun for both parties.

If the other person is willing to jump right into the fetish talk, then by all means go for it -- but it feels like the instances where people are walking away frustrated are when these expectations are mismatched from the onset.

 

[SugarSoaker]

I started out a 100% lee and now I consider myself a lee-Leaning switch who prefers to ler, if that makes any sense. I love lerring but like others have said: the typical persona/submissiveness of a male lee (or really any lee) turns me off so I prefer lerring people who are ler-leaning switches and don’t have thirsty* male lee personality (sorry y’all).

 

[Lee Ishler]

I started out a 100% lee and now I consider myself a lee-Leaning switch who prefers to ler, if that makes any sense. I love lerring but like others have said: the typical persona/submissiveness of a male lee (or really any lee) turns me off so I prefer lerring people who are ler-leaning switches and don’t have thirty male lee personality (sorry y’all).

I assume you meant "dirty" male lee personality, not "thirty"? Well that makes sense. Hopefully that's not me. I did start this thread because I'm curious about it, and I think I got some pretty good answers from those who have been down that road. I don't think I relate to or come across as what many male lee's are depicted as here, so I'm glad for that. And as it says on my profile, I'm a switch who just so happens to lean towards a lee, that's all. The ideal scenario for me would be having a switch partner, but someone who is just a ler, or just a lee is fine with me. I'm not picky! LOL!

 

[Lee Ishler]

I'm female and primarily a ler. I've had a bunch of people tell me it's rare, but I don't know that I really noticed that much myself. Maybe I'm just not active on here enough? I have some rough encounters, but my worst was actually as a lee.

As a ler - it feels like it would only make sense to let me take the lead and decide what pace our conversation should go. So, if you come in hot when I've not started there myself - then you probably will get ignored because we're just not on the same page. It's not a gender thing -- this would apply to anyone that reaches out.

I do know that I have been incredibly lucky in terms of the meet-ups I have had as a Ler; however, we took the time to get to know one another before we brought the fetish part into our conversations. For me, that time talking like regular people is crucial in making the rest of our interactions fun for both parties.

If the other person is willing to jump right into the fetish talk, then by all means go for it -- but it feels like the instances where people are walking away frustrated are when these expectations are mismatched from the onset.

That makes total sense. Like I think I said somewhere on this thread, it's definitely a two way street, and I never expect anything, or demand it. I admit I never had any real life tickling experiences, not to speak of anyway, but it would have to be the same as any relationship, or friend, it stands to reason. What ever one's desires are regarding fetish or sexual needs, the relationship itself is what comes first.

 

[Jezebel Lee]

I love lerring but like others have said: the typical persona/submissiveness of a male lee (or really any lee) turns me off so I prefer lerring people who are ler-leaning switches and don’t have thirty male lee personality (sorry y’all).

OMFG I’m exactly the same! Come to think of it, the only times where I actually get ler moods are when someone isn’t pestering me to tickle them. When someone isn’t going “so are you ready to switch yet?” every 5 minutes when I just want to rest after being wrecked. When someone is actually ticklish instead of just lying there like a smiling corpse insisting I carry on and not wanting a break.

 

[Candygirl]

OMFG I’m exactly the same! Come to think of it, the only times where I actually get ler moods are when someone isn’t pestering me to tickle them. When someone isn’t going “so are you ready to switch yet?” every 5 minutes when I just want to rest after being wrecked. When someone is actually ticklish instead of just lying there like a smiling corpse insisting I carry on and not wanting a break.

Yes!! Girl! Same! All of this. Lately I can't even talk to a lee without them pushing their preferences on me. Like "hi how are you? I'm super ticklish by the way" ....uh ok. I'm good how are you? "I'm swell. Where are you ticklish? My feet and hips are insane!!" It's a one track minded, one sided conversation with many.

Again, not ALL, but most

I'm guessing that it's because female lers are so rare compared to the rest of the community that when they do come across one they don't seem to know how to act.

Again, in my experience, what I've encountered are male lees approaching me as a ler. Asking questions that a ler would ask. Questions they ultimately don't even care about the answer to while they use it as an ice breaker.

And I've been wanting to say something that many will not like, but in the spirit of shedding some light on the matter, I'm going to say it anyway.



So, at the end of the day, for most, this is an activity that is or can be sexual in nature. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes as far as what they are and are not attracted to. Myself, I do not find strictly lee/submissive men attractive. I don't judge them, but it's not for me. There has to be some dominant side, even a small one, or a chance that they even want to "get me back" so to speak. Not all female lers are like that, but again, many I've run across in my years of befriending other females here, are ler leaning switches. Meaning they love having a helpless man at their mercy or lack there of. But they, like all, have wants and needs and desires as well and like that maybe one night every so often the tables are turned.

For myself, and the like minded female friends I have, we don't typically like engaging with male lees because we don't find ourselves attracted to that. Which should be acceptable. I get hate messages all the time from guys who feel entitled to my attention and don't think it's fair that I'm a female ler but won't give them the time or attention they want.

Again, goes back to being treated like a fetish dumpsters. Guys just wanting to take what they can from us. Give nothing back. Why is it ok for men to, for instance, have a preference on body type and say things like 'well I don't tickle big women, I'm not attracted to them." And we, as a society, accept that in general because everyone is entitled to have their own preferences on that but we are not free to weed through potential male partners to session with based on our own preferences??

Some male lees have even gone so far as to say we are fake or even "gay male lers in disguise" simply because we don't immediately want to connect with every man that wants to be tickled. Is that right? Is that justified? Is that fair? No. It is not.

Going back to the original OP question, yes. We are here, and quite common actually but it's the way we are treated when revealing ourselves as such that keeps us from waving the tickle banners so to speak.

 

[MarkyisTickly]

Yes!! Girl! Same! All of this. Lately I can't even talk to a lee without them pushing their preferences on me. Like "hi how are you? I'm super ticklish by the way" ....uh ok. I'm good how are you? "I'm swell. Where are you ticklish? My feet and hips are insane!!" It's a one track minded, one sided conversation with many.

Again, not ALL, but most

I'm guessing that it's because female lers are so rare compared to the rest of the community that when they do come across one they don't seem to know how to act.

Again, in my experience, what I've encountered are male lees approaching me as a ler. Asking questions that a ler would ask. Questions they ultimately don't even care about the answer to while they use it as an ice breaker.

And I've been wanting to say something that many will not like, but in the spirit of shedding some light on the matter, I'm going to say it anyway.



So, at the end of the day, for most, this is an activity that is or can be sexual in nature. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes as far as what they are and are not attracted to. Myself, I do not find strictly lee/submissive men attractive. I don't judge them, but it's not for me. There has to be some dominant side, even a small one, or a chance that they even want to "get me back" so to speak. Not all female lers are like that, but again, many I've run across in my years of befriending other females here, are ler leaning switches. Meaning they love having a helpless man at their mercy or lack there of. But they, like all, have wants and needs and desires as well and like that maybe one night every so often the tables are turned.

For myself, and the like minded female friends I have, we don't typically like engaging with male lees because we don't find ourselves attracted to that. Which should be acceptable. I get hate messages all the time from guys who feel entitled to my attention and don't think it's fair that I'm a female ler but won't give them the time or attention they want.

Again, goes back to being treated like a fetish dumpsters. Guys just wanting to take what they can from us. Give nothing back. Why is it ok for men to, for instance, have a preference on body type and say things like 'well I don't tickle big women, I'm not attracted to them." And we, as a society, accept that in general because everyone is entitled to have their own preferences on that but we are not free to weed through potential male partners to session with based on our own preferences??

Some male lees have even gone so far as to say we are fake or even "gay male lers in disguise" simply because we don't immediately want to connect with every man that wants to be tickled. Is that right? Is that justified? Is that fair? No. It is not.

Going back to the original OP question, yes. We are here, and quite common actually but it's the way we are treated when revealing ourselves as such that keeps us from waving the tickle banners so to speak.

First of all, sorry about your bad experiences and I do agree with you that these double standards are unfair.

TBH, I've just found myself being more lee than ler these days. I could do ler but its very rare (almost never actually) that I'm in the mood for it. However, I'm always respectful, do not jump into tickle discussion too quick and if a female ler refuses thats fine. Plenty more fish in the sea. I'm rarely on this site much anyway. lol You also have a point that, because male lees rarely ever get to talk with an actual female ler, how they communicate tends to be difficult, though that doesn't excuse their awful behaviour.

Its good to finally understand why female lers rarely speak and its definitely unfair. Perhaps this might help in some of us more respectful lees to approach lers with a lot more understanding.

 

[Lee Ishler]

Yes!! Girl! Same! All of this. Lately I can't even talk to a lee without them pushing their preferences on me. Like "hi how are you? I'm super ticklish by the way" ....uh ok. I'm good how are you? "I'm swell. Where are you ticklish? My feet and hips are insane!!" It's a one track minded, one sided conversation with many.

Again, not ALL, but most

I'm guessing that it's because female lers are so rare compared to the rest of the community that when they do come across one they don't seem to know how to act.

Again, in my experience, what I've encountered are male lees approaching me as a ler. Asking questions that a ler would ask. Questions they ultimately don't even care about the answer to while they use it as an ice breaker.

And I've been wanting to say something that many will not like, but in the spirit of shedding some light on the matter, I'm going to say it anyway.



So, at the end of the day, for most, this is an activity that is or can be sexual in nature. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes as far as what they are and are not attracted to. Myself, I do not find strictly lee/submissive men attractive. I don't judge them, but it's not for me. There has to be some dominant side, even a small one, or a chance that they even want to "get me back" so to speak. Not all female lers are like that, but again, many I've run across in my years of befriending other females here, are ler leaning switches. Meaning they love having a helpless man at their mercy or lack there of. But they, like all, have wants and needs and desires as well and like that maybe one night every so often the tables are turned.

For myself, and the like minded female friends I have, we don't typically like engaging with male lees because we don't find ourselves attracted to that. Which should be acceptable. I get hate messages all the time from guys who feel entitled to my attention and don't think it's fair that I'm a female ler but won't give them the time or attention they want.

Again, goes back to being treated like a fetish dumpsters. Guys just wanting to take what they can from us. Give nothing back. Why is it ok for men to, for instance, have a preference on body type and say things like 'well I don't tickle big women, I'm not attracted to them." And we, as a society, accept that in general because everyone is entitled to have their own preferences on that but we are not free to weed through potential male partners to session with based on our own preferences??

Some male lees have even gone so far as to say we are fake or even "gay male lers in disguise" simply because we don't immediately want to connect with every man that wants to be tickled. Is that right? Is that justified? Is that fair? No. It is not.

Going back to the original OP question, yes. We are here, and quite common actually but it's the way we are treated when revealing ourselves as such that keeps us from waving the tickle banners so to speak.

Interesting. I don't think I'm that way, but I'm not surprised at all. For one thing, I don't have a lot of confidence, and rarely reach out to anyone on TMF. Most of the time I tried in the chat room here I got no response at all. The few times they did, they seemed to be just lee's, and I'm OK with that, because I'm a switch anyway. And I did meet a few female 'lers in chat too. It seemed to go OK, but then I only recently became active here, so I'm still getting to know everyone. But no, I didn't push anything. I simply responded to what ever they wanted to give. One of them I talk to mainly on the main chat, and we're getting to know each other as friends, so I think that's definitely the right approach. I probably did better as a ler, RP'ing that is, because once I knew that's what they wanted, I did my best to give it to them. How well that actually works in text, well, I don't know. I try, that's all. As a lee in chat, all I can do is respond.

Ultimately, I'm sure the best scenario would be IRL. I don't know if that will ever happen, but it might. Seek and you shall find, as they say...

 

[duderino84]

That's funny! I think it's fairly obvious that's a favorite spot, since the whole thing is a big sexual turn on anyway. Do they really have to "guess"? I'm sure they all find out in due time...

I'm guessing some guys both want to indicate their interest or start from a position they're comfortable from. That being said I've mostly encountered women that were straight up not into any of it or talked to women who liked the completely sadistic side. It would be nice to see the Nurse Mercy (there's a throwback for you) archetype that can mix. . Also, neurological discussion, guys that aren't cut tend to have more sensitive nerve endings to work with anyhow. Like a hairjob for me was on that fine line between continuous light stimulation and tickling that was fun.

 

[Lee Ishler]

I'm guessing some guys both want to indicate their interest or start from a position they're comfortable from. That being said I've mostly encountered women that were straight up not into any of it or talked to women who liked the completely sadistic side. It would be nice to see the Nurse Mercy (there's a throwback for you) archetype that can mix. . Also, neurological discussion, guys that aren't cut tend to have more sensitive nerve endings to work with anyhow. Like a hairjob for me was on that fine line between continuous light stimulation and tickling that was fun.

That makes sense. I'm not familiar with the "Nurse Mercy" but I can imagine! As for guys who aren't cut (I assume that means not circumcised), I never knew, because I am, and I'd still say that's an extremely sensitive area for me. I'm sure many guys couldn't handle it, but I'm one who definitely could. But then I guess that's what loving to be teased and tickled is all about; being driven crazy and sexually stimulated at the same time.

 

[Candygirl]

....do you not see what's happening here?! This is exactly why female lers are not super outgoing about their tickle tendencies!! You start out asking if we are here on the TMF and wondering how common we are and it took you guys all of 3 pages to change the conversation to how ticklish your dicks are

 

[Lee Ishler]

....do you not see what's happening here?! This is exactly why female lers are not super outgoing about their tickle tendencies!! You start out asking if we are here on the TMF and wondering how common we are and it took you guys all of 3 pages to change the conversation to how ticklish your dicks are

Well, I see your point, but it was duderino84 who brought that subject up, otherwise it's not the kind of thing I would've mentioned. I admit I didn't feel comfortable replying, but felt obliged to anyway. No, I would not have disclosed that kind of info to a female ler, not unless she asked me, and hopefully it would be in private, not a public post such as this. Maybe I just should've ignored his comment, but I try to reply to everyone, if possible.

 

[Jezebel Lee]

Well, I see your point, but it was duderino84 who brought that subject up, otherwise it's not the kind of thing I would've mentioned. I admit I didn't feel comfortable replying, but felt obliged to anyway. No, I would not have disclosed that kind of info to a female ler, not unless she asked me, and hopefully it would be in private, not a public post such as this. Maybe I just should've ignored his comment, but I try to reply to everyone, if possible.

It’s okay to have your own boundaries too. If you don’t feel comfortable talking about dicks, you don’t have to reply and it’s fine.