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Ah, my bad Mitch. I wish you tons of good luck in looking for another job. At the very least, you don't have to put up with that colossal asshole of a supervisor anymore. I personally would have waited a year or two, then gone back and welded the dickhead's car doors shut while he slept. Zen-revenge baby! 😉
 
LOL.

Thanks for the good wishes.

The job search has been difficult, due to my age.. the somewhat lack of experience, and the fact that I'm in competition with many people, who are many years younger than me.

I'm going to keep pushing ahead of course. I send out many online resumes/replies to jobs, every day.

Hopefully, some good job will come up fairly soon.
 
Ah, okay, do you think you may have enough funds for community collage? There are some good programs that can help get you a good and affordable education (of course, by affordable I mean able to pay off the bill within ten or twenty years). Do you drive and if so, have you considered getting your commercial transport license? It depends on the state your in but I'd imagine all you'd have to take is a written test.
 
^^ Now THAT ^^ .. is some EXCELLENT ADVICE, DebonairDamsel.
As the British would say, "Good on you, Lassie ... good on you!"
 
I dont know why this thread was put to the top of the list again three months after I posted it.. but to answer Debonair's question.

No, I dont drive, and havent in almost 20 years, but in NYC one doesn't have to.. I walk and take the subway all over the place.

I dont have to go to "community college". I already have my degree.. A BA in History from a regular university, earned more than 20 years ago, at the right time.

Un fucking real how a thread started and resolved.. four months ago.. goes on, and on, and on, to the top of the page, simply because Mitch posts it.
 
Aflac is a great company. They've been great to me for years. Congrats on the group.
 
I dont know why this thread was put to the top of the list again three months after I posted it.. but to answer Debonair's question.

No, I dont drive, and havent in almost 20 years, but in NYC one doesn't have to.. I walk and take the subway all over the place.

I dont have to go to "community college". I already have my degree.. A BA in History from a regular university, earned more than 20 years ago, at the right time.

Un fucking real how a thread started and resolved.. four months ago.. goes on, and on, and on, to the top of the page, simply because Mitch posts it.

You have resolved nothing.
 
Okay Mitch:

Here is a glaring example of what I've been saying to you over the years.

This member took the time to share her ideas in order to assist you in gaining employment, and I personally think she gave you sound advice:

Ah, okay, do you think you may have enough funds for community collage? There are some good programs that can help get you a good and affordable education (of course, by affordable I mean able to pay off the bill within ten or twenty years). Do you drive and if so, have you considered getting your commercial transport license? It depends on the state your in but I'd imagine all you'd have to take is a written test.

Now, what did she get in return for taking time from her day to show you some compassion and offer you some help?

I dont know why this thread was put to the top of the list again three months after I posted it.. but to answer Debonair's question.

No, I dont drive, and havent in almost 20 years, but in NYC one doesn't have to.. I walk and take the subway all over the place.

I dont have to go to "community college". I already have my degree.. A BA in History from a regular university, earned more than 20 years ago, at the right time.

Un fucking real how a thread started and resolved.. four months ago.. goes on, and on, and on, to the top of the page, simply because Mitch posts it.

You'll be the first one wondering why the usual suspects will come in and start wailing on you or those of us who have been supportive towards you either let you have it or just bypass the thread altogether....:sowrong:

.....Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.

Moving forward, do you care to discuss what you've done so far to find work? If you're still struggling or your seach isn't leading you anywhere, you should reconsider Debonair's idea of community college. That's one I told you about several months ago; the degree you obtained 20 years ago is OBSOLETE and you have no record of employment in that field anyway. It's as if you never did it as far as today's job market is concerned.

I have a bachelors and MBA as well as many years of business experience. Would you like to know what work kis is presently doing with that expensive education and experience? Customer service call center work! That's right!! That was all I could find and I got tired of being broke hoping one day I could do the work I want! I had to suck it up and go back to my roots and start over....at age 52! My sister had to do the same thing at age 55 after living in her land of delusion for four years wanting her high paying hospital wages back....I don't think she makes over $12/hr right now with no 401K or savings to retire on. As much as you hate your father, he does support you financially so you won't end up like me or my sister...if you don't want to.

I am even considering going back to school for some certifications so I can become a paralegal. I have a MBA...why on earth would kis want to be a paralegal?? Because the one thing I've learned in the last 4+ years is that I NEVER want to be an attorney! But I'll gladly take their money and do the work their lazy asses won't! If you focus on work someone else doesn't want to do, you'll ALWAYS be able to be employed....even if that means self employment (which IMO is the best status to have).

In all the drama and madness I've gone through in the last five years, I finally discovered something I'm good at and have done work I can be proud of. But in order to get properly paid for it, I need the credentials. I've found myself after being lost for decades doing what others wanted me to do instead of finding my own path. I hope you do the same and stand on your own two feet proud of your own achievements and accomplishments (and getting paid for them too).
 
Oh, and another thing...

Live Ops (www.liveops.com) employs people with insurance licenses to do phone sales work. I know you have an issue with stuttering, but if you learn to manage your nerves and stress, you'll manage the stuttering. My son is learning customer service phone work and he definitely has some speech issues, but he's really smart, knowledgeable, and has a big heart. People hear that over the phone and it's not long before the voice issues become non issues.

Again, something for you to consider in your journey for gainful employment.
 
kis, I dont want this to come across as nasty, because you know I like you, and have over the years..

Your post sounds like a reprimand if there ever was one.

This thread. is.. five months old. I shared. in November.. that I had left Aflac. Why this thread was put to the front of the page, I dont know. I havent been posting rants in the main forum, and have been putting all vents in my blog.

I dont know how much you know about baseball, but I'm going to describe the Aflac experience for me this way.

I dont know if you know about the 1991 Atlanta Braves. They were a team that had been in last place for years, and last place the previous baseball season, that got to the seventh game of the World Series that year, before losing in extra innings.

That was a heartbreaking experience. I was a Braves fan back then.

The Aflac experience felt like the same thing to me. A person who had no experience in the insurance industry, passes the insurance exam,and is hired by one of the largest insurance companies in the world, only to have every roadblock thrown in his way by his supervisor, only to nearly sign a mega client, to have the client not sign, and be forced to leave the position that he worked so hard to get by passing the insurance exam., .

All I meant when I replied to Debonair was that I have my college degree. I was not looking to be nasty.

What have I done to find work? Sent out.. A thousand? resumes.. averaging dozens a week, to every conceivable type of job I could think of. I;'ve hasd interviews, and not gotten jobs. I dont post everything I do here.

I went to a speech therapist to work on the stuttering. Even though it has gotten better since I saw her, she doesnt think I should have a job with cold calling, etc.

About my father:

It really sounds like you were justifying him,. which is the thing that is most disturbing to me.

Giving someone money doesnt make them kind, loving, or caring.

I'm aware that he can throw me out of the apartment I live in. I live with that reality all the time. every day. He's more like a boss then a father.

When I came out of the nervous collapse I had following my mother's death, what is it that I did? What did my actions show?

Did I get the easy job to say "Okay, I can make up the shortfall by living off Dad".

No, I took a position in a completely unfamilar field, and passed a professional licensing exam.

I knew insurance was a difficult business, but I had every intention of earning enough money to be completely self sufficient within a year to be completely free of him. In fact, I told him this when I took the position at Aflac.

I'm still working on finding jobs. I do, every day.

The entry level jobs I apply to, I'm going up against people.. 20 years younger then me, and more than once have been asked why someone 45 years old has as little experience as I do.

I'm also working on ideas for businesses and avenues to market a business plan I have that I will not post about.

In many ways.,. the past five months have been more difficult then even the 18 months between the time I found out my mom was going to die, and the time I got the position at Aflac, because then.. I was doing nothing to help myself. That is not the case now.

I honestly dont get.. why threads that I post that are "Months old", get brought back to the forefront. to be pounded on again.

As I posted in my blog yesterday.. if there is anyone who honestly thinks I';n just sitting around, doing nothing, looking to live off my father,. they honestly dont know me at all.

This is not only because,. a 45 year old man shouldnt be living off his father but also because, in spite of the checks he writes me.., the abuse that comes along with the checks, almost isnt worth the money.

On the topic of this thread,.. the original topic. '

At the time I posted the thread.. I was told by my supervisor at the time.. "You can tell everyone that the account is signing, and you have your first mega account at Aflac".

My reaction:

Great, I solidify myself at Aflac, and get at least toward being free of my father.

The situation turned a short time later, as, for whatever reason, the law firm changed their mind, which is what led me to leave Aflac.

Whatever happens in my life now.. I will not post it here, and havent. Except for the post about the person who ranted to me on Facebook, what personal things have I posted in the main forum since November, when I said I was leaving Aflac? Anything personal goes in my blog.

I really wish this thread would have died after five months, and it isnt because "Mitch keeps adding to it"., It s because other people keep bringing it back to the front of the page.

No one stops to think.

"Gee, Mitch worked so hard to pass the insurance exam, and to be at Aflac, it must be really difficult that he was forced to leave there/. Maybe we';ll just leave it alone, unless he posts something".

They just keep adding to it.

I've posted exactly three other personal things in the main forum in the five months since this thread.

When I left Aflac

The job I almost took at Greenpeace that I decided not to take.

The expression of the person who took whatever goes on here to Facebook.

I already said, I'm not going to post about my job interviews, business plans or work.

I dont post about my father in the main forum anymore, and have tried to keep rants about him even in my blog to a minimuim.

I really hope this thread dies, but if I know it, it will be brought back to the front, and wlll go on for another five months.

That is what is truly disturbing.
 
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and be forced to leave the position that he worked so hard to get by passing the insurance exam., .

You weren't forced. You quit. Whether you were going to be fired or not, you gave up.

Honest question, but how much responsibility to you take for AFLAC not working out? How much do you think they were at fault? I'm curious about a percentage.
 
Yes, I quit. I was going to be fired. Not that its anyone's business, but.. when I started looking for other jobs, when I was still with Aflac, after the law firm didnt sign, but before the firing date would have been, I was advised by an independent career couneslor that I should resign, because such looks better on a resume then being fired.

If you're asking about a percentage.. I would honestly say..

33-33-33.

My issue with not being able to cold call because of my stuttering.. my fault/issue. Not intentional, just something I couldnt help.

Aflac and my supervisor's rules and regulations.. Every suggestion I had for clients.. my supervisor was "Oh you cant do that". I had mega clients that would have talked to us, who he wouldnt even meet with.

The law firm. They jerked us around for FIVE MONTHS from early June, to late October, 2014, with multiple meetings, calls, etc, saying they would sign, and then didnt.

If they honestly didnt want the insurance, they should have told us sooner.

I'm sure you think its 100% my fault. You also dont know the conditions I was working under.
 
Jericho, to prove how wrong you are about me "Not taking responsibility".

Another example.

I posted on here, how, in my early days in TMF, I almost got myself banned from here, by sending new female members intro messages, firing away questions about tickling, feet, and ladders, before even telling them anything about myself, or getting to know them.

Such behavior got me reported, and nearly banned.

So.. what did I do?

Not only did I take responsibility for my actions, and change my behavior, I admitted publicly in the main forum what I had done.

Nowhere did I say.

"Oh the girls shouldnt have reported me".

Or.

"I shouldnt have been threatened with a ban for my behavior".

When I'm wrong,. I say I'm wrong, and try to change the wrong behavior.

It';s my father who cant do this.

Cases in point.

He knows that his ranting about my mom, makes me very upset, and causes me seizures.

Its like.

"She's dead three years, she suffered and died of lung/brain cancer, leave her alone".

He still rants about her, even though he knows how such affects me.

He takes, no responsibility for our twenty year estrangement, and doesnt think I should have any feelings, about him getting married, creating a new family, and not giving a shit about his son. He doesnt care that it hurt me that he made this new family, before working on his relationship with me.

All I hear is.

"I had the right to get married".

My father, and those he says, have all the rights, and have no responsbility whatsoever for their hurtful behavior to Mitch.

Mitch,. however, has no rights at all to feel anything.

Mitch has no rights to have hurt feelings toward Mitch's father, or toward anyone in Mitch's father's family who has hurt Mitch.

What my father does, is to never take responsibility for his actions, and that is not what I do.
 
kis, I dont want this to come across as nasty, because you know I like you, and have over the years..

Your post sounds like a reprimand if there ever was one.

This thread. is.. five months old. I shared. in November.. that I had left Aflac. Why this thread was put to the front of the page, I dont know. I havent been posting rants in the main forum, and have been putting all vents in my blog.

I dont know how much you know about baseball, but I'm going to describe the Aflac experience for me this way.

I dont know if you know about the 1991 Atlanta Braves. They were a team that had been in last place for years, and last place the previous baseball season, that got to the seventh game of the World Series that year, before losing in extra innings.

That was a heartbreaking experience. I was a Braves fan back then.

The Aflac experience felt like the same thing to me. A person who had no experience in the insurance industry, passes the insurance exam,and is hired by one of the largest insurance companies in the world, only to have every roadblock thrown in his way by his supervisor, only to nearly sign a mega client, to have the client not sign, and be forced to leave the position that he worked so hard to get by passing the insurance exam., .

All I meant when I replied to Debonair was that I have my college degree. I was not looking to be nasty.

What have I done to find work? Sent out.. A thousand? resumes.. averaging dozens a week, to every conceivable type of job I could think of. I;'ve hasd interviews, and not gotten jobs. I dont post everything I do here.

I went to a speech therapist to work on the stuttering. Even though it has gotten better since I saw her, she doesnt think I should have a job with cold calling, etc.

About my father:

It really sounds like you were justifying him,. which is the thing that is most disturbing to me.

Giving someone money doesnt make them kind, loving, or caring.

I'm aware that he can throw me out of the apartment I live in. I live with that reality all the time. every day. He's more like a boss then a father.

When I came out of the nervous collapse I had following my mother's death, what is it that I did? What did my actions show?

Did I get the easy job to say "Okay, I can make up the shortfall by living off Dad".

No, I took a position in a completely unfamilar field, and passed a professional licensing exam.

I knew insurance was a difficult business, but I had every intention of earning enough money to be completely self sufficient within a year to be completely free of him. In fact, I told him this when I took the position at Aflac.

I'm still working on finding jobs. I do, every day.

The entry level jobs I apply to, I'm going up against people.. 20 years younger then me, and more than once have been asked why someone 45 years old has as little experience as I do.

I'm also working on ideas for businesses and avenues to market a business plan I have that I will not post about.

In many ways.,. the past five months have been more difficult then even the 18 months between the time I found out my mom was going to die, and the time I got the position at Aflac, because then.. I was doing nothing to help myself. That is not the case now.

I honestly dont get.. why threads that I post that are "Months old", get brought back to the forefront. to be pounded on again.

As I posted in my blog yesterday.. if there is anyone who honestly thinks I';n just sitting around, doing nothing, looking to live off my father,. they honestly dont know me at all.

This is not only because,. a 45 year old man shouldnt be living off his father but also because, in spite of the checks he writes me.., the abuse that comes along with the checks, almost isnt worth the money.

On the topic of this thread,.. the original topic. '

At the time I posted the thread.. I was told by my supervisor at the time.. "You can tell everyone that the account is signing, and you have your first mega account at Aflac".

My reaction:

Great, I solidify myself at Aflac, and get at least toward being free of my father.

The situation turned a short time later, as, for whatever reason, the law firm changed their mind, which is what led me to leave Aflac.

Whatever happens in my life now.. I will not post it here, and havent. Except for the post about the person who ranted to me on Facebook, what personal things have I posted in the main forum since November, when I said I was leaving Aflac? Anything personal goes in my blog.

I really wish this thread would have died after five months, and it isnt because "Mitch keeps adding to it"., It s because other people keep bringing it back to the front of the page.

No one stops to think.

"Gee, Mitch worked so hard to pass the insurance exam, and to be at Aflac, it must be really difficult that he was forced to leave there/. Maybe we';ll just leave it alone, unless he posts something".

They just keep adding to it.

I've posted exactly three other personal things in the main forum in the five months since this thread.

When I left Aflac

The job I almost took at Greenpeace that I decided not to take.

The expression of the person who took whatever goes on here to Facebook.

I already said, I'm not going to post about my job interviews, business plans or work.

I dont post about my father in the main forum anymore, and have tried to keep rants about him even in my blog to a minimuim.

I really hope this thread dies, but if I know it, it will be brought back to the front, and wlll go on for another five months.

That is what is truly disturbing.

I only read the first three lines of your post above and already see where this is going

If you took it as a reprimand, it would only be from the standpoint of Debonair's post and your response to it. She was giving you sound advice and you basically responded inappropriately, IMO.

The rest was my attempt to give you some solutions if you are still struggling with gainful employment.

My skin is like a rhino's rear end when it comes to this place so you'll be very hard pressed to offend me. Actually after all the life altering things I've gone through (and still going through) in the last seven months, not too many people in this forum can easily offend me anymore.

Stop wearing your feelings on your sleeve and use that energy you spend complaining and defending yourself to finding solutions to your life issues. I'm not being nasty, but it's time to get real! No one....and I mean NO ONE has ever succeeded doing anything positive to improve their quality of life like that.

Peace
 
I see your point.

As for wearing my feelings on my sleeve, I've stopped posting about personal issues on the main forum, as I said.

I see your point about solutions, and if it was meant to be productive. I thank you.

As I said before, i'm working on things, many of which I'm not going to post here.

Hopefully things will get better soon.
 
I see your point.

As for wearing my feelings on my sleeve, I've stopped posting about personal issues on the main forum, as I said.

I see your point about solutions, and if it was meant to be productive. I thank you.

As I said before, i'm working on things, many of which I'm not going to post here.

Hopefully things will get better soon.

It was meant to be constructive and productive....and you're welcome!

I told you this a long time ago; some of us have to build (or rebuild) our lives over again and it's a tough process. But you have to start somewhere. You took an insurance exam and passed; that's great! I told you the world of insurance is all but cannibalistic and it'll eat you alive if you aren't careful. Now you've had a taste of what I was talking about right?? Now, you find a plan B for your life and try other things until something sticks and resonates with you....oh and it has to make sense for you to invest your time into it.

Please, please, please consider the option of community college. The main one in my state also has what's called "corporate college." It's a lot of business courses that are non credit, but can lead to certain certifications. You're right, you already have a degree so unless you are dramatically changing your skill set, another degree may not be necessary.

The employer needs to see what efforts you're willing to make in order to change your circumstances. When it comes to mature workers, the road ain't easy and you'll spend a lot of time paving that road proving yourself to bosses half your age. My current manager is 23 years old; he's younger than my youngest child! He has a lot to learn about life, but at this moment he happens to know enough about his job to be my boss and I have to respect that. It's the way things are nowadays; simply just is what it is......

I wish you the best of success with your pursuits. Don't give up, just change lanes and shift gears until you find something you feel comfortable with or are willing to make the challenges and sacrifices to achieve.

Peace
 
Moving forward, do you care to discuss what you've done so far to find work? If you're still struggling or your seach isn't leading you anywhere, you should reconsider Debonair's idea of community college. That's one I told you about several months ago; the degree you obtained 20 years ago is OBSOLETE and you have no record of employment in that field anyway. It's as if you never did it as far as today's job market is concerned.

I have a bachelors and MBA as well as many years of business experience. Would you like to know what work kis is presently doing with that expensive education and experience? Customer service call center work! That's right!! That was all I could find and I got tired of being broke hoping one day I could do the work I want! I had to suck it up and go back to my roots and start over....at age 52! My sister had to do the same thing at age 55 after living in her land of delusion for four years wanting her high paying hospital wages back....I don't think she makes over $12/hr right now with no 401K or savings to retire on. As much as you hate your father, he does support you financially so you won't end up like me or my sister...if you don't want to.

I am even considering going back to school for some certifications so I can become a paralegal. I have a MBA...why on earth would kis want to be a paralegal?? Because the one thing I've learned in the last 4+ years is that I NEVER want to be an attorney! But I'll gladly take their money and do the work their lazy asses won't! If you focus on work someone else doesn't want to do, you'll ALWAYS be able to be employed....even if that means self employment (which IMO is the best status to have).

If I were you, I would not go back to school. If you have years of business experience, why do you not reach out to a former business associate and attempt to find a better job. In all honesty, why would you want to spend more money to become a paralegal? Most attorneys hire paralegals not because they are lazy, but because they are busy and paralegals are cheaper than hiring another attorney. How cheap? I know many paralegal with several years of experience making $16-18/hr with no benefits. You could make more at a bigger firm, but unless you have an "in" that is going to get hard to get. Moreover, your MBA and years of experience is not a plus for a paralegal job. You'll look like a flake. Look, I am not trying to shit all over your hope and dreams, so if your "dream job" is to be a paralegal, then go for it; however, if it just a means to an end to obtain a job, then do not do it.
 
iggy, I appreciate your insight, and how you presented it. I understand that you arent trying to "shit all over my hopes and dreams" as you say.

All I'll say is a general statement..

I'll take all options into consideration.
 
Actually, my post was not directed to you. Others have already posted what I think about your situation, and it makes no sense for me to double up and pile on.
 
Bemused, what, within my control was anyone else';s fault?

Also, its unreal how I thread I posted.. five months ago.. was put back to the top of the page, twice, simply because I posted it.

I already said, I'm working on things that I'm not going to post about.. period, because, anytime I make posts about something, it turns into a weeks long thread.,. that gets pushed back to the top of the page, multiple times, and, while I know some people, like kis, etc, mean well, it also turns into a thread for attacks that are unproductive.. such as the potshot like the one you made.

"Mitch only took responsiblity for the things he couldnt control, the things he could control he takes no responsibility for".

I've already said, what gets me is this..

If I post a thread. on a certain day, that is pounced on.

"IE, my father did this to me, today".

Fine.. I'm asking for whatever I get then.

A thread.,, posted, five months ago, about a situation that everyone knows was resolved, gets brought back to the top of the page, for more and more discussion, and many times, attacks.

That is what really gets under my skin.

People dont think.

"Gee, Mitch left Aflac, that was difficult for him, after how hard he worked to pass the insurance exam. We';re just going to leave it alone. Losing someone's job is a difficult thing, especially when one works to pass a professional licensing exam".

It just goes, on, and on, and on, for discussion, and attack, even if it isnt "called" an attack.

I'm sure this thread will go on for another five months, and be brought back to the top of the page multiple times.
 
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