I hate TMF! Is this place any better?

[gamewiz526]

don't be bothered by trolls.
even on a site so far from the norm, you'll find them. i agree that it isn't quite woman friendly. (not that i want it to change to favor one gender over the other) if they took some of your ideas, i'm sure it would become much more balanced to that extent...

 

[tk_master_x]

i dont really post often but i thought id give some insight. bloo has a really good idea and good intentions to go along with it. however, i read the 7 page tmf thread and it saddened me she resorted to insults in the end instead of being more civilized. other than that i enjoyed her ideas and hope to see them come into reality eventually. although young and inexperienced, i would enjoy looking for a long term relationship in which tickling is an open subject in the environment in which she speaks of.

 

[QueenBeeBeeMari]

i dont really post often but i thought id give some insight. bloo has a really good idea and good intentions to go along with it. however, i read the 7 page tmf thread and it saddened me she resorted to insults in the end instead of being more civilized. other than that i enjoyed her ideas and hope to see them come into reality eventually. although young and inexperienced, i would enjoy looking for a long term relationship in which tickling is an open subject in the environment in which she speaks of.

I just skimed through the whole thing and she did a lot more insulting then on just page 7.She started off being nice and they gave some constructive criticism back and the whole thing just fell apart from there.

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Well I don't know what to tell you, because I haven't slammed anyone at all

Um...

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"actually, within the gibberish, he brings up a few points for me to address."
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"lol! I'm making perfect sense, you're just too stupid to follow what i'm saying."
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"Yikes. I posted an idea filled with "veiled insults blanketing a large number of forum members"?? I've "insulted respected members of 'the community'"? I'm sure they've got meds for whatever you've got. good luck."
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"All I did was talk about my experience with my sexuality, which I know is shared by many other ticklephiles, regarding this forum and the community at large. Reading insults into what I said takes a special kind of talent and i'm sure some sort of head trauma."
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"You are the one trolling on my thread, because you can't listen to and respect what people in this community say unless it's about women's feet."
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"That makes no sense. You're lame. *put on ignore*"
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"ah ha ha - a woman criticizes porn, and it twists your briefs so bad you call her a man posing as a woman. breaking new ground, dude - how old are you, eleven? has the internet just been invented? go to diss school sir, get your degree."
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"lol - why? I've logged on like ten times in the past three years. Did you try to hit on me? You're like forty-eight years older than me, move on."
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A tickle pimp is a guy who posts on here as says he has twelve girls, and he's taking money and appointments for you to come to his dungeon and tickle them.
So?

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Originally Posted by blootwentytoo
For the millionth time, I wasn't calling female ticklephiles *****s. Are you really this dense? Do you really think I created a thread lamenting that women aren't respected on here, identified myself as a female ticklephile, and then whipped around and called all female ticklephiles "porn actresses" as an insult?

Darling, I think you hit your pretty inflated head. You said in your own OP:

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and the fact that most of the women who do post here are not ticklephiles but tickle-porn actresses, or tickle-prostitues, and that many of the men on here are tickle pimps, make that obvious.
A prostitute is just another word for "*****", honey.

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but I really don't understand why this is so insulting to everyone.
Because you're blinded by ignorance, to be honest

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

The TMF is neither female NOR MALE FRIENDLY!!

If you cannot spot the constant emasculation that goes on in that forum, you need to take off your leather masks!!

Women have developed balls and use them on that forum more often than men now!! Just look at how many women are acting out sexually with other women, while men sit back, electronically castrated and implicitly disrespected.

Unfortunately, numerous TMF men have an odd fascination with dominating dominant women... and they don't have a clue how to do such a thing, which leaves the women ACTING dominant and not really enjoying it.

 

[tk_master_x]

I just skimed through the whole thing and she did a lot more insulting then on just page 7.She started off being nice and they gave some constructive criticism back and the whole thing just fell apart from there.

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Well I don't know what to tell you, because I haven't slammed anyone at all

Um...

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"actually, within the gibberish, he brings up a few points for me to address."
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"lol! I'm making perfect sense, you're just too stupid to follow what i'm saying."
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"Yikes. I posted an idea filled with "veiled insults blanketing a large number of forum members"?? I've "insulted respected members of 'the community'"? I'm sure they've got meds for whatever you've got. good luck."
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"All I did was talk about my experience with my sexuality, which I know is shared by many other ticklephiles, regarding this forum and the community at large. Reading insults into what I said takes a special kind of talent and i'm sure some sort of head trauma."
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"You are the one trolling on my thread, because you can't listen to and respect what people in this community say unless it's about women's feet."
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"That makes no sense. You're lame. *put on ignore*"
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"ah ha ha - a woman criticizes porn, and it twists your briefs so bad you call her a man posing as a woman. breaking new ground, dude - how old are you, eleven? has the internet just been invented? go to diss school sir, get your degree."
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"lol - why? I've logged on like ten times in the past three years. Did you try to hit on me? You're like forty-eight years older than me, move on."
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A tickle pimp is a guy who posts on here as says he has twelve girls, and he's taking money and appointments for you to come to his dungeon and tickle them.
So?

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Originally Posted by blootwentytoo
For the millionth time, I wasn't calling female ticklephiles *****s. Are you really this dense? Do you really think I created a thread lamenting that women aren't respected on here, identified myself as a female ticklephile, and then whipped around and called all female ticklephiles "porn actresses" as an insult?

Darling, I think you hit your pretty inflated head. You said in your own OP:

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and the fact that most of the women who do post here are not ticklephiles but tickle-porn actresses, or tickle-prostitues, and that many of the men on here are tickle pimps, make that obvious.
A prostitute is just another word for "*****", honey.

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but I really don't understand why this is so insulting to everyone.
Because you're blinded by ignorance, to be honest

yea i read the whole thing as well. i just stated how many pages it was for clarification purposes.

 

[Holy Bovine]

"We reviewed it. We read it as sarcasm speaking to the concepts you outlined in your OP. We polled some female users and they read it as sarcasm."

I wonder which female member's he ask 🙄lol

 

[Sss_sushi]

With that in mind, the owner of the particular piece of property - in this case, the web space - gets to make the rules. As much as I love my freedom of speech, they can control yours and mine (directly and indirectly). Don't like it? Well... you're free to harp about it to no avail, or leave.

This is absolutely true. However, I do believe debates and statements like bloo's are necessary in the development of the so-called "community".

Exactly what statement as a community do they push? By doing a public statement, it'll make it clearer for others who do not wish to be a part of it. Or, it could possibly make the admins change a perspective, if enough people are eloquent about the issue. (Newgrounds, for example, had some drama around 2006 and dissenters posted well-reasoned arguments against a well-respected mod and were still allowed to exist and be respected as the community... I wish a lot of others followed their example but as you say, the owner is free to do as s/he wishes)

This actually sealed the TMF a bit for me. There is strange attitude about M/M that really killed my taste for the forum. "If you want money, you'll start putting chicks in there" and such showed me that my tastes won't be found in that community.

I do agree with you that if harping doesn't work, move on.

 

[solleticoso1]

This looks like the place for me. :wub

🙂 I'm glad of hearing that! 🙂

 

[QueenBeeBeeMari]

yea i read the whole thing as well. i just stated how many pages it was for clarification purposes.

Oh,well,I think she should be happier here.I rarely see any fights or insulting going on.

 

[AngelOfDarkness]

I'm inclined to say it is but that's debatable, based on your pov.

Either way, your thread on TMF is ridiculous. "TOO MUCH SEX!" What do you expect....it's a forum dedicated to a paraphilia (not fetish- a fetish is an attachment to an object, like shoes or leather). As for your issue with it not being female-friendly. I'm a female and I've *NEVER* felt unwelcome.

Secondly, your women's corner idea wouldn't fly. Once upon a time, there was a gender-limited forum that was an offshoot off TMF for the ladies. Guess what happened? it died off.

 

[revboy]

I dont believe tickling is a sexuality...but I'm not gonna go and embarrass you by suggesting you get "tickle-raped"

what a tool

I'm sure you'll find people here who will be more willing to debate rather than flame you here. Best of luck!

 

[PurpleStyle]

This is absolutely true. However, I do believe debates and statements like bloo's are necessary in the development of the so-called "community".

I guess, but her follow-up to the approach left much to be desired.

Exactly what statement as a community do they push? By doing a public statement, it'll make it clearer for others who do not wish to be a part of it. Or, it could possibly make the admins change a perspective, if enough people are eloquent about the issue. (Newgrounds, for example, had some drama around 2006 and dissenters posted well-reasoned arguments against a well-respected mod and were still allowed to exist and be respected as the community... I wish a lot of others followed their example but as you say, the owner is free to do as s/he wishes)

This actually sealed the TMF a bit for me. There is strange attitude about M/M that really killed my taste for the forum. "If you want money, you'll start putting chicks in there" and such showed me that my tastes won't be found in that community.

I do agree with you that if harping doesn't work, move on.

I think it's slightly different in this case. Porn, and the pursuit of it, has always been in higher demand than everything else since the inception of the internet. This much is blindingly obvious. Frankly I don't blame the TMF, the members, and especially the admins. They go where teh moneyz is. That's just how we apes operate. Although it is nice - there are those of who have other passions. Sometimes they can mesh, but when insults are deployed, that chance is completely ruined.

If there's anything I've learned from trying to push atheism on people, it's this: don't. :lol People are stuck in their ways, and will not be forced to change. Sometimes it's good, and sometimes it's bad. Getting hostile will expose the bad. Her posting at the TMF is a beautiful example of that in action. Now I actually visit the chatroom often, and there are quite a few M/Mers there. I'm not sure if that's what you're after though. I've never really looked at the content - like I've stated before; all of my "forum time" there is spent jabbing at religion. :lol

Secondly, your women's corner idea wouldn't fly. Once upon a time, there was a gender-limited forum that was an offshoot off TMF for the ladies. Guess what happened? it died off.

If I had to guess, I would say it's because the vast majority of REAL women are not into F/F stuff. From my experience, the pretenders are easy to spot, and the idea of a forum dominated by them is beyond creepy.

 

[QueenBeeBeeMari]

I think a forum dominated by pretenders like that would be my worse nightmare.Well,one of them lol.
Anyway,when she started insulting everyone,any chance of them hearing her out,was completely destroyed.When you start offending people they stop thinking about everything,but coming up with an equally or worse insult to you.Any chance of a productive debate then,flies out the window.

 

[Sss_sushi]

I guess, but her follow-up to the approach left much to be desired.

LOL! No doubt! That's why I was careful to put "well-reasoned argument". NG insulted the crap out of the mods, but hey, that was how the forum rolled and well-reasoned could be interspersed with the LULZ. TMF doesn't tolerate it because for the most part, everyone must be respectful.

Frankly I don't blame the TMF, the members, and especially the admins. They go where teh moneyz is. That's just how we apes operate. Although it is nice - there are those of who have other passions.

I completely agree that people go to the money. I was more or less expanding on the idea that creating a forum of many interests or even a community with a variety of tastes is NOT easy. Sort of like "freedom isn't free". It's easy to block off the minority for the pursuit of the majority and probably more economically sound and is easier for identity purposes.

But it's not wrong to call them out on it. If they're not in it for all tastes, then people should absolutely say "this is not what I was looking for" (again, respectfully). Define the community.

If there's anything I've learned from trying to push atheism on people, it's this: don't. lol People are stuck in their ways, and will not be forced to change.

This is where we diverge, ha ha. As I said before, even if it causes waves, I think it's absolutely important to discuss if not for anyone else, for oneself to really know if one belongs there.

:Sometimes it's good, and sometimes it's bad. Getting hostile will expose the bad. Her posting at the TMF is a beautiful example of that in action.

Getting hostile and discussing the community's limitations are two different things. I completely agree that her attacking was wrong, because it was neither clever nor eloquent.

Speaking of which, we must go to two different forums because in TMF chat, all I get are invitations to cyber and all discussions are about M/F and F/F. :lol M/M videos are dissed when the title clearly says "M/M". There's also a lack of M/M stories and art. Like I said, my tastes likely wont' be found there 🙂

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

the hollywood brother think that there is a great group of people here at the grandest website for all tickling on the internet. the reality is that the hollywood brother gives this forum two hollywood brother thumbs up and hopes you do as well

 

[omnimegatickler]

When you call female members of a fetish forum "tickle prostitutes and tickle pornstars" and troll someone who's trying to engage you in a civil debate , by responding to them like this :

lol! I'm making perfect sense, you're just too stupid to follow what i'm saying.

You can very well expect to be trolled back . Which blootwentytoo was willfully oblivious towards . And the aggressive and somewhat hostile nature of the OP's responses to various posters on that thread clearly gave an appearance of it being flamebait .
Not to mention that spamming at least 2 other forums with a stupid whining complain like this one isn't going to help your cause either blootwentytoo .

 

[dalekfire]

This discussion ended back in '10. -_- Please let old discussions die. Bloo hasn't even been back here since April of last year.

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