I just realised this man could have been president.

[RobAce]

You are equating Obama to Bush, and in doing so are claiming a movement towards the center? That's what I do not understand. There are elements which are kept from the previous presidency, but let's not sit here and call them mirror similarities.

Well if Bush was (is) considered far right by some, and Obama was (is) considered far left by some others...then his moves right now (moves that Bush would make and had made in the past) start placing him more center-left than far left. All I point out is that IF McCain had won, and everything else had been same (same moves Obama has made) people on the left would be pouring the 4-more years syrup down our throats telling everyone how right they were. But when Obama does it.....yet again no peeps. No outrage. Nothing.

Funny how those things work. If the other guy does it....ITS WRONG!! EVIL!!
If my guy does it, he must have a good reason. Now again..that's funny.

Then again, I would also argue that not everyone of these people wishes for a cohesive unity.

You know what you have a point. You can not get everyone on the same page for everything. So there is something to the fact that no matter what you will always have a dissenter or three.

That would indicate we were ever really on track, which I doubt we have been since the Revolution. People don't want to work together. They rather get into pissing matches. And if they win the pissing match, they laugh. And if they are losing, they throw abstract bullshit in the way.

Another decent point here. People want power, not to work together. Which is really sad. We can only hope that one day the collective morons in Washington DC figure out we can do so much more together than we can arguing over every thing.

But even so, centrist folk laughing only places them in one of those categories they apparently despise.

Not really. You can be amused from the outside without being one of those. If you pay to watch the circus and laugh at a bunch of clowns....are you also a clown? I think not.

Sometimes with all the lunacy that rampant on the left and right...that's all we can do. Laugh.

Rob

 

[chicago]

Are you kidding me? That list also shows cover ups involved during the Bush administration and that's only when others spoke out after losing a position with them, or they were caught being contradictory. You have to imagine there's more that we don't know than we do there.

 

[RobAce]

Mairead,

I do not doubt for one second (and actually know) that there is MORE dirty laundry out there on Bush and his administration.
What I wonder aloud about is where is the vocal opposition to what Obama has done (which I personally agree with) that if anyone from the other side of the political spectrum did would be posted everywhere and used as a banner against that side.

Sure a joke here and there, or maybe a quick finger wagging. But funny that if someone from the other side did the same thing...it would be hammered more than a prom queen at a trailer park.

Rob

 

[chicago]

Well in politics, there's always comparison, and I think Bush is being used as a comparison for everything. People are hesitant to criticize Obama not only because of the monumental problems he faces or the short amount of time he's been in office, but because we just came out of a depressing eight years with Bush and anything in comparison is going to be better. But if Bush is "our worst president" than any candidate is going to arguably do a better job.

I think criticism of government is important, and I think it should be welcomed in a sense no matter who is in office to get people thinking, at the very least. But right now, I kind of feel like we gotta take what we can get and hey, at least McCain and Palin aren't in office. Ha.