Knismolagniac symbol???

[Capnmad]

So then I agree the neuron tree thing is the best design so far, BUT, my only concern with it, is that it could easily represent any fetish involving sensation... pain, for example. What about it says tickling, and not just touch?

Concur.

 

[-Hari-]

What about it says tickling, and not just touch?

We do, thats the beuty of it 😉

if we say thats what it symbolises, the it does, whatever we choose in the end will be a community decision and that desicion will give it the strengh.

 

[Ledega]

We do, thats the beuty of it 😉

That's just what I was thinking.You all said it yourselves,the symbol can be anything we want it to be.It does'nt need to have a feather in it,or look like one,just a symbolic picture of some type to let other people with the same interest know who we are.

 

[-Hari-]

in theory it could be a completely random image, btu i think we can find a nice balance between meaningful and subtlty

 

[Mephistopheles]

So then I agree the neuron tree thing is the best design so far, BUT, my only concern with it, is that it could easily represent any fetish involving sensation... pain, for example. What about it says tickling, and not just touch?

Well, isn't tickling all about touch? A special kind of touch, but still touching the person you're tickling, be it with your fingers, a feather, or an electric toothbrush.

It's the meaning we give to an image that makes it a symbol.

 

[Capnmad]

Well, isn't tickling all about touch? A special kind of touch, but still touching the person you're tickling, be it with your fingers, a feather, or an electric toothbrush.

It's the meaning we give to an image that makes it a symbol.

Agreed, but not only could it mean any kind of touch, but the neuron is a fairly modern discovery/symbol that already comes with meaning which doesn't specifically align with tickling, and more importantly, immediately and readily relates to assorted but specific meanings pertaining to studies of the brain (psychology, neuropsych, neurology, etc....) that seem to compete for meaning (and win) in this writer's mind.

The triskele is an ancient symbol the meaning of which has been made rather hazy by time and is limited to a handful knowledgeable folks, so it doesn't suffer the same challenges as would a neuron when someone tries to repurpose it.

Not saying another triskele is necessarily the way to go, but it's important to illustrate why some would say it succeeded as a symbol for BDSM, and why I'm rather averse to the neuron, however compelling an image it makes. It doesn't seem a bad fit for a social networking site, mind you -- the justification offered there with branching like trees and whatnot sounds a good fit, as is the fact that a social networking site involves the trade of ideas (wherein we return to the neuron). I just don't see tickling in it...

More ideas and modifications to come.

 

[subtle_feather]

As the originator of the neuron tree notion, I don't want to argue my position too strongly, as I think that would seem self-serving.

Still, I do want to say, about the bdsm triskele-based designs, that they are extremely cool looking, but I feel like they piggy-back onto the bdsm culture. That is all well and good, but I, personally, would not want that for two reasons.

First, not everyone who is into tickling is into bdsm, and having a symbol related to BDSM might send a mixed message.

Second, I would really love for the tickling community to strike out on its own, as it were. Why not create something that is uniquely us?

Of course, I like my own idea, but even if mine is ultimately passed over, I would hope that we make something of our own.

This thread has really taken on a life of its own--thanks to everyone who is making an effort!!! 🙂

 

[Wildtime]

...We, however, are in a unique position, as the feather has long been a universal symbol associated with tickling... I would tend to think that some variety of feather symbolism -- something that indeed lends itself to tickling -- would be important in this... Further, I'd be less in favor of a symbol that could just apply to anything than one that seems could be directed toward something...

...I also was very sceptic about the use of a feather, but in my eyes you acculy managed to do this very well...

The feather is universally associated with tickling, so why not adopt it as our international symbol? It really doesn't make sense to create some obscure masonic-like logo that needs explanation. Besides, with a template symbol you limit the creative possibilities of incorporating it into other designs (i.e. jewelry); not everyone will like the 'official' symbol and competing designs will also show up; and finally, no one can copyright something as simple as a feather™.

 

[MasterPaladin]

why can't I get into tmf ?

 

[MasterPaladin]

is anyone here ?

 

[Mephistopheles]

The feather is universally associated with tickling, so why not adopt it as our international symbol? It really doesn't make sense to create some obscure masonic-like logo that needs explanation. Besides, with a template symbol you limit the creative possibilities of incorporating it into other designs (i.e. jewelry); not everyone will like the 'official' symbol and competing designs will also show up; and finally, no one can copyright something as simple as a feather™.

True, but a symbol that requires an explanation rather than something with a feather gives people showing that symbol an option to either tell the truth or come up with some bogus explanation if you don't want the person asking to know.

 

[Capnmad]

As the originator of the neuron tree notion, I don't want to argue my position too strongly, as I think that would seem self-serving.

I understand that, but listen, bro -- if this is even successful, in the long run, what, maybe a dozen or two folks will remember or even care who came up with the symbol? The rest, with luck, will just be using it. If someone gives me an idea I think is worthy of execution and I have time and think I can do it justice, I'll take a shot at it, and make sure folks know whose symbol it is. The triskele is really Libertine's idea -- I wouldn't have done it were it not for him -- but I'm still working on some variations to better fit his vision. But really, any personal gain is shortlived and negligible, because the symbol's meant to represent a whole community. It's a community thing.

You came up with an idea, it's a very strong graphic, so by all means, don't feel shy about standing behind it. No one's going to get universal agreement on a symbol anyway -- we're just looking for the nearest thing to consensus. Support and critique where you see fit. All engaged in this want a strong design to represent us.

Still, I do want to say, about the bdsm triskele-based designs, that they are extremely cool looking, but I feel like they piggy-back onto the bdsm culture. That is all well and good, but I, personally, would not want that for two reasons.

First, not everyone who is into tickling is into bdsm, and having a symbol related to BDSM might send a mixed message.

Second, I would really love for the tickling community to strike out on its own, as it were. Why not create something that is uniquely us?

I actually concur with both these arguments. Still, I'll be completing a couple of triskele variations for Libertine, 'cause he's a friend, it is a powerful graphic itself, and it can appeal to those for whom there is a crossover between these two interests. Universal? Maybe not, but it has its appeal as well.

Of course, I like my own idea, but even if mine is ultimately passed over, I would hope that we make something of our own.

This thread has really taken on a life of its own--thanks to everyone who is making an effort!!! 🙂

Agreed, and I hope this spurs more entries -- I know we've got some wonderful artists in this community more than capable of contributing something fantastic to this effort...

The feather is universally associated with tickling, so why not adopt it as our international symbol? It really doesn't make sense to create some obscure masonic-like logo that needs explanation. Besides, with a template symbol you limit the creative possibilities of incorporating it into other designs (i.e. jewelry); not everyone will like the 'official' symbol and competing designs will also show up; and finally, no one can copyright something as simple as a feather™.

Actually, let me stop you... I appreciate the support of feather-oriented designs because I think it's rather integral myself, but there is an importance to at least a degree of obscurity. If you've noticed, folks with this fetish are really rather loathe to publically announce it (rather expected of most anything that may tie to one's personal or intimate life), and so it's important that they feel it's a symbol that won't be readily recognized by "outsiders", but still has meaning to them... Those are the primary axes for widespread adoption of this thing, I think, so let's not diminish the need for subtlety in the symbolism, brother.

Keep the support, critiques, thoughts and entries coming, folks! And please, I want to see more of our community's artists jump in with their ideas!

 

[venray]

I think the neuron symbol is the one. both in it's subtlety and simplicity...

I may have to get my first tat ever if this becomes a symbol for the community...

 

[♡AimLEE♡]

I LOVE the neutron symbol Hari made ... very simple, but very meaningful.
If you guys give me a few days to think this over .. I can try to think of a symbol and have it drawn out.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Still, I do want to say, about the bdsm triskele-based designs, that they are extremely cool looking, but I feel like they piggy-back onto the bdsm culture. That is all well and good, but I, personally, would not want that for two reasons.

First, not everyone who is into tickling is into bdsm, and having a symbol related to BDSM might send a mixed message.

Second, I would really love for the tickling community to strike out on its own, as it were. Why not create something that is uniquely us?

I agree. I'm fascinated by and interested in BDSM, but not so much that I'd want the TK symbol to mimic that of BDSM.

The feather is universally associated with tickling, so why not adopt it as our international symbol? It really doesn't make sense to create some obscure masonic-like logo that needs explanation. Besides, with a template symbol you limit the creative possibilities of incorporating it into other designs (i.e. jewelry); not everyone will like the 'official' symbol and competing designs will also show up; and finally, no one can copyright something as simple as a feather™.

I, personally, disagree with the use of a feather. Like Hari mentioned, alot of folks don't use and/or aren't responsive to feathers, and for that reason the symbolism might be lost for those individuals. Also, like Capnmad and others have said, a symbol a bit more mysterious is likely what most people are going to prefer, so they have the option to explain it in truth or not, depending on the circumstances of who is asking about their new ink, necklace, tshirt, whatever.

 

[EcEu]

im going to think of something and will post it up very soon. I love the idea how having a discreet but very cool symbol for this and i'll definitely put some thought into it 🙂

 

[-Hari-]

I think the neuron symbol is the one. both in it's subtlety and simplicity...

I may have to get my first tat ever if this becomes a symbol for the community...

tis in the back of my mind too man, im selfishly rooting for it as ide quite like a good reason to get a tattoo of it :d

As it stands tho, Whatever the symbol ends up being, I will probabl have a tattoo of it 😀

 

[-Hari-]

im going to think of something and will post it up very soon. I love the idea how having a discreet but very cool symbol for this and i'll definitely put some thought into it 🙂

I LOVE the neutron symbol Hari made ... very simple, but very meaningful.
If you guys give me a few days to think this over .. I can try to think of a symbol and have it drawn out.

Im lookin forward to what you two come up with, great to see more members getting theyre claws into this 🙂

 

[Capnmad]

im going to think of something and will post it up very soon. I love the idea how having a discreet but very cool symbol for this and i'll definitely put some thought into it 🙂

I LOVE the neutron symbol Hari made ... very simple, but very meaningful.
If you guys give me a few days to think this over .. I can try to think of a symbol and have it drawn out.

Excellent! And especially so that we have a female artist taking a shot... I was more than a bit worried about the legitimacy of the whole enterprise for lack of female participation in the thread beyond Lyz... I look forward to all forthcoming ideas! 🙂

 

[MasterPaladin]

I see it really on a roll now. I have all entries saved and added the artist name to the name of the symbol. I had an Idea tell me what you think. if you rotate the 1 symbol 90 degrees clockwise it looks like a cup make the cup a tad smaller and add hari's tree in it so it looks like its growing out of the cup also symbolizing the growing of this community. Just a Thought you could also add one of the feathery ones inside the center circle of the tree

 

[MasterPaladin]

ok like this. the feather in the center didn't come out so well because of how small I had to shrink it it needs just to be darker

 

[Heather Feather]

This is by far one of the most interesting discussions I've read yet! As a student of both the graphic arts and psychology, I've come up with some of my own opinions.

First of all, I don't think it's possible to create something from an archetype of tickling that isn't immediately recognizable by the public. Tickling is a core activity of humanity, it uses our hands and skin. It is an act that, at least I think, is significantly visually distinct from all other forms of touch. It's aggressive and tender at the same time, and I've never mistaken a tickling picture for another action.

That said, the feather should be an abstraction, but because of its popularity in the history of tickling and general sexual eroticism (especially in the arts), creating a symbol or emblem from its visual nature automatically links it to its erotic nature--unless it is directly linked with its original origin (birds).

Then there's the neuron, which I find so interesting to be abstracted as a "tree" by this community as someone who's studied some neuroscience in college. It is something more like a chain in its functionality, and as such I never realized that its dendrites do create a tree-like appearance. It really does work...as a tree, but for me it doesn't scream facial expressions or that tender tingling I associate with tickling...it's just a little too sharp around the edges.

So unfortunately, because the majority of you recognize that this symbol would need some anonymity in terms of its visual imagery...I'm not sure how this is possible using the body parts that you'd need to include to provoke a symbol for tickling, or a feather, ooor other tickling apparatus for that matter. And I'm afraid a neuron strikes me all the wrong ways visually. Conceptually it's begging for more attention...so I think it might have some potential if you brainstorm more ideas.

Then again, sometimes hiding things in plain view is the best way to go. For instance, FedEx includes a right-ward arrow in its logo that many people overlook. But maybe you might want to go with something more emblem-related...maybe you just need to research into the history of tickling before our time? Since that is where BDSM has derived that three-part circle.

I guess I'm just ramble-brainstorming myself. Wow, I thought I'd be too shy to say anything here!

 

[MasterPaladin]

Heather there is no need to be shy here you are among friends and by the way awesome post and something to think about. I thank you for your insight and thoughts on this endeavor

 

[-Hari-]

ok like this. the feather in the center didn't come out so well because of how small I had to shrink it it needs just to be darker

I really like the idea but I wonder whether its a little too much, whether we should try and keep it as simple as posible?

 

[-Hari-]

This is by far one of the most interesting discussions I've read yet! As a student of both the graphic arts and psychology, I've come up with some of my own opinions.

First of all, I don't think it's possible to create something from an archetype of tickling that isn't immediately recognizable by the public. Tickling is a core activity of humanity, it uses our hands and skin. It is an act that, at least I think, is significantly visually distinct from all other forms of touch. It's aggressive and tender at the same time, and I've never mistaken a tickling picture for another action.

That said, the feather should be an abstraction, but because of its popularity in the history of tickling and general sexual eroticism (especially in the arts), creating a symbol or emblem from its visual nature automatically links it to its erotic nature--unless it is directly linked with its original origin (birds).

Then there's the neuron, which I find so interesting to be abstracted as a "tree" by this community as someone who's studied some neuroscience in college. It is something more like a chain in its functionality, and as such I never realized that its dendrites do create a tree-like appearance. It really does work...as a tree, but for me it doesn't scream facial expressions or that tender tingling I associate with tickling...it's just a little too sharp around the edges.

So unfortunately, because the majority of you recognize that this symbol would need some anonymity in terms of its visual imagery...I'm not sure how this is possible using the body parts that you'd need to include to provoke a symbol for tickling, or a feather, ooor other tickling apparatus for that matter. And I'm afraid a neuron strikes me all the wrong ways visually. Conceptually it's begging for more attention...so I think it might have some potential if you brainstorm more ideas.

Then again, sometimes hiding things in plain view is the best way to go. For instance, FedEx includes a right-ward arrow in its logo that many people overlook. But maybe you might want to go with something more emblem-related...maybe you just need to research into the history of tickling before our time? Since that is where BDSM has derived that three-part circle.

I guess I'm just ramble-brainstorming myself. Wow, I thought I'd be too shy to say anything here!

Very epic post, I dont know about everyone else but youve got my mind rolling abit more. 🙂