Knismolagniac symbol???

[MasterPaladin]

looks a hell of a lot like a vibe going someplace to me lmao

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

So, who says pac man can't be one of us?! I demand equal rights!

Ahem! Anywhoooooo.........

 

[MasterPaladin]

So, who says pac man can't be one of us?! I demand equal rights!

Ahem! Anywhoooooo.........

that was the only game i ever beat

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

that was the only game i ever beat

So, does that mean that you lose all the tickling games you play?

BTW, it's great to see you back at active posting again!

 

[MasterPaladin]

TY so much and it feels good too I need to make a gathering soon

 

[Cavum]

After everything that has happend here I still feel like the simple neruon tree that Haribish made first is the best so far. Why make it so much more complicated? Seems like moust people here dig the Neuron tree. All the other "extras" around it can be added individual by people who want it. Thats what people does with the BDSM emblem as well. They create the background or extras to it like they want. Thats the beauty about having it as simple as possible, so people can add stuff to it themselfs to make it more personal...

 

[Capnmad]

I love all the work that is going on around here....

But...

I'm kinda lost here with some of the posts...

Why design something with the intentions of wearing it in public for the purpose of showing your love for the fetish, but then design it to make it not "too obvious"?

Why make a symbol to symbolize your love for tickling but then make it so that no one will know? Why hide behind a subliminal meaning?

It brings up the question as to if you really do love your fetish or not.

I say, if you really love the activity of tickling then you should wear the logo with truth and pride instead of trying to hide it with subliminal designs or discrete meanings.

Good point! Please now change your screenname to your real full first and last name, or begone! Otherwise you're just being coy and not really committed. 😉

Seriously, that's analogous to what you're suggesting.

Listen, the fetish isn't gonna get it's feelings hurt if you're not fully dedicated to it, or if you're seeing some other fetishes on the side... It's not going to be mad if you don't wear your wedding band to it in public, or proud if you do. And unlike marriage or other committed relationships, outwardly declaring your love of it may have unwanted social repercussions.

So, unless you don't get why spies need realistic sounding codenames and background stories, but still need to know a bit of the truth to recognize the folks in the field who are on their side, the idea behind this shouldn't totally elude you.

After everything that has happend here I still feel like the simple neruon tree that Haribish made first is the best so far. Why make it so much more complicated? Seems like moust people here dig the Neuron tree. All the other "extras" around it can be added individual by people who want it. Thats what people does with the BDSM emblem as well. They create the background or extras to it like they want. Thats the beauty about having it as simple as possible, so people can add stuff to it themselfs to make it more personal...

Good point (and that I mean without a shade of sarcasm, unlike above 🙂 ). Granted, I was initially under the impression that after a suitable number of entries had been made, there'd be a whittling-down process and a separate, polling thread to take votes from everyone on our options, but I've been under false impressions about such things before, and I shall therefore unimpress myself of such notions...

But, I hope you don't mind if I continue to add a couple of things to the thread beyond this decision, as I come to the final versions of pieces for Libertine and KittenToes, and if I come up with any other little thing I might think suitable for the topic.

It's been fun, people! 🙂

 

[Sir Bombers]

The idea of whether or the symbol is obscure or obvious is going to come down to a vote, and that's all there is to that. Maybe I'll get my way and it'll be something mysterious, maybe I won't and it'll be something more obvious. Either way, when that happens I'll have a decision to make, as will everyone else.

I really don't appreciate that you keep saying if someone doesn't want to proudly wear an obvious symbol of his or her fetish, they don't truly love it, and bringing religion into it, even as an example, is a slippery slope. You don't know what's in my or anyone else's heads and hearts regarding their fetish or their religious beliefs. I don't choose to walk around sporting a cross, but that doesn't mean my relationship with God is any less than someone who does. You can't go around making these statements about other people's feelings and judging their dedication to a cause based on what they do or don't wear.

I can but repeat what Ive said. psychology major or not, its not easy to understand that different people have different needs, but try 🙂

You cannot argue this point as I fall into the catagory, I do not want the whole world to know what im into, its not theyre business nor theyre concern, and this doesnt mean I am ashamed of my fetish. And I want a symbol to wear because *I* will know what it means, this isnt about everyone else, its about the individual.

I love my fetish , I always have, but im not 100% comfortable with myself or other peoples opinions, a symbol that only holds meaning to those who know what it means give me the oppertunity to wear something that is important to me and represents a part of me but without everyone looking at me and knowing MY secrets.

If this makes no sense to you than its simply because are failing to put yourself in my shoes.

Are you so against something that the rest of the people in this thread clearly DO want?

Skipadeedoodah and Haribish

You both are good people for a conversation...I'm not trying to be negative or against a symbol in anyway, I plan on contributing too...

I'm not trying to judge... please take the points that I say into account.

If my comments come across as negative then I apologize. It is not my intention to start up negativity. I'm just trying to bring up an interesting point to take under consideration. I just met you guys for crying out loud! LOL

I'm just saying that a symbol is an attention grabber, a symbol is a sign for association of any type. I'm just saying that with every symbol that is mysterious and unique... people WOULD ask questions about it...

I'm saying that even though WE in the community would know it's meaning, that does not mean that someone outside of the fetish would not be able to find the meaning out sooner or later.

Once the cat is out of the bag, anybody wearing the symbol will be associated with that activity, so I'm saying, once that happens, would you still wear the symbol? How comfortable would you be wearing the symbol once it's true meaning gets out to the public?

How secretive can you be wearing something that reveals your secret?

Think about it... That's all I'm saying...

I only used the "religious symbols" part as an example I didn't mention any specific denominations to be courteous of others, I just meant that people who really love what they do, believe in what they do... wear a symbol for it...

I'm NOT saying that you have to wear a symbol to show your love... or that your love for the fetish is based off the symbol.

I'm saying that the ones who really enjoy whatever they believe in or love more than likely wear a symbol to show it. I'm not trying to start up a religious debate... just using an analogy for the use of our tickle symbol once it gets made.



Haribish-

My friend I completely understand and likewise see it from how I see it... 🙂

Picture this buddy...

You say you... "do not want the whole world to know what im into, its not theyre business nor theyre concern," and you also say... you want to go around "without everyone looking at me and knowing MY secrets."


All I'm saying is if THAT IS the case for you my friend, then a symbol would not be wise to wear in public, since like I said, from a psychological standpoint, people are naturally curious and they WILL ASK about the symbol... and also like I said...people WILL eventually know what it means at some point regardless of if we keep it a secret or not. All in all, it's meaning will no longer only be in the community, it will be in the public's eye and everyone will know about it...

If you want to be secretive... then it's foolish to have a symbol to bring attention to it...There's absolutely no way to argue around it my friends... absolutely no way.


I understand you both... I've been there before... I've felt the way you both have felt... as you say Haribish I've been in your "shoes"... 😀 I was the same way years ago...but then I been able to grow with it...


I guess I should have been more clear...

I'm not saying that you HAVE to wear a symbol, to show your love, and the love is not based on the symbol.... I'm saying that people who really enjoy the fetish, are ones who would seem to be the individuals more likely to wear a symbol since it will be out in the public's eye...Those individuals who would expose themselves by wearing the symbol would be more than able to take on the eventually questioning from curious folks and maybe the possible backlash afterward from the answer...

So once again...if you like to be secretive, a symbol would not be wise to have...as opposed to the people who don't have to be secretive and will show the symbol without anything to hide.


Please try to see it from THIS point of view I'm sorry if my earlier posts weren't clear...


I never ever said I was against anything my friends, I'm just asking you to take this point into account when making the symbol...a symbol that is to represent/show/expose/associate the tickle fetish and those who participate in it!

I mean c'mon Haribish...why would I waste time here if I was against this?! I thought that my comments would have anybody assume that I really want a symbol! 😀

 

[Sir Bombers]

Good point! Please now change your screenname to your real full first and last name, or begone! Otherwise you're just being coy and not really committed. 😉

Seriously, that's analogous to what you're suggesting.

LOL...

My friend that is my real last name! There's only a few other first names in this world that begins with "F"!

Most people have already found it out... 😉


With all due respect in the highest way...no offense to you or anyone in the community... but at least MY real last name IS HERE and not disguised by some made up screen name like mostly everyone in the community... 😉

I am committed indeed... that why I would wear the symbol in public once it is made...

Since we're on the issue of being analogous... then my name being up here... out in the open... can be the perfect testament to me being open about the fetish... as with the symbol when it is brought into the real world... like BDSM when it caught the public's eye... 🙂

Not to say everyone is the same way... I understand that not everyone shares the same view of being open...

Listen, the fetish isn't gonna get it's feelings hurt if you're not fully dedicated to it, or if you're seeing some other fetishes on the side... It's not going to be mad if you don't wear your wedding band to it in public, or proud if you do. And unlike marriage or other committed relationships, outwardly declaring your love of it may have unwanted social repercussions.

Exactly my friend...

I'm not saying the fetish would be tarnish or uplifted in any way...

I'm just saying, if the case comes to hiding a secret that could bring "unwanted social repercussions" when exposed, then why would you have a symbol that would LEAD to the secret you are trying to hide? That's all I'm saying...

Why have a secret if you're gonna draw attention to it with a symbol?

So, unless you don't get why spies need realistic sounding codenames and background stories, but still need to know a bit of the truth to recognize the folks in the field who are on their side, the idea behind this shouldn't totally elude you.

That's understandable... and the idea does not elude me, but I doubt that most people here have the discipline of a spy... which brings me to the point that the secret of the mysterious symbol that we're going to have, has a very strong chance of being found out by the non fetish society, and then like I said in the past comments...the cat will be out of the bag... and then what? Not to say that the love is based on the symbol or measured by it...

I'm just saying that once a symbol of the secretive get's out to the public's knowledge, then the public WILL attribute the people wearing the symbol to the secret... and you can bet by then, that it will be foolish to wear the symbol if you don't want people to know about the secret once it's been called out... 😉

I'm not trying to be negative to anyone! If you don't know by now... I WANT A SYMBOL.... I just want to bring up a point that if you don't want the secret out... it would be silly to draw attention to it wearing a symbol for it... vice versa for people who do...


Think about it my friends! 😀

 

[Ledega]

I have been reading the comments on this subject,and with all do respect,I think some are kind of overdoing it a bit.I mean just vote on some symbols and if one is chosen then great.Once a symbol is established people can make a decision of wether or not to sport it ya know.I for one,like this idea so maybe I can spot others into tickling and allow them to spot me as well without feeling so uncomfortable.That would be cool.Tis just me ; )

 

[-Hari-]

Haribish-

Picture this buddy...

You say you... "do not want the whole world to know what im into, its not theyre business nor theyre concern," and you also say... you want to go around "without everyone looking at me and knowing MY secrets."


All I'm saying is if THAT IS the case for you my friend, then a symbol would not be wise to wear in public, since like I said, from a psychological standpoint, people are naturally curious and they WILL ASK about the symbol... and also like I said...people WILL eventually know what it means at some point regardless of if we keep it a secret or not. All in all, it's meaning will no longer only be in the community, it will be in the public's eye and everyone will know about it...

If you want to be secretive... then it's foolish to have a symbol to bring attention to it...There's absolutely no way to argue around it my friends... absolutely no way.


I understand you both... I've been there before... I've felt the way you both have felt... as you say Haribish I've been in your "shoes"... 😀 I was the same way years ago...but then I been able to grow with it...


I guess I should have been more clear...

I'm not saying that you HAVE to wear a symbol, to show your love, and the love is not based on the symbol.... I'm saying that people who really enjoy the fetish, are ones who would seem to be the individuals more likely to wear a symbol since it will be out in the public's eye...Those individuals who would expose themselves by wearing the symbol would be more than able to take on the eventually questioning from curious folks and maybe the possible backlash afterward from the answer...

So once again...if you like to be secretive, a symbol would not be wise to have...as opposed to the people who don't have to be secretive and will show the symbol without anything to hide.


Please try to see it from THIS point of view I'm sorry if my earlier posts weren't clear...


I never ever said I was against anything my friends, I'm just asking you to take this point into account when making the symbol...a symbol that is to represent/show/expose/associate the tickle fetish and those who participate in it!

I mean c'mon Haribish...why would I waste time here if I was against this?! I thought that my comments would have anybody assume that I really want a symbol! 😀

I understand the point that you tirelessly make, but I totally disagree with you. I can wear that symbol and if someone spots what it is than I really aint that fussed, in the extreamly rare occasion that some random person happens to actually know what that symbol means then they will do one of a few things,

*walk past and not give a monkeys

*make some stupid comment, which wont bother me because im proud of it.

*or ask me about it, and I will either be comfortable with telling them, or I wont be, itl be my choice and I dont HAVE to talk to them.

The vast majority of people wanting this symbol, dont want it to be obvious so thast they can have that choice.

Take the BDSM symbol, its widely used and the BDSM community if huge compared to ours, yet I have it tattooed on my arm and all ive ever had is "hey nice tat" or "is that some kinda yin yan thing?" to which I tend to reply "hmm sorta" and thats it, but in some cases I will rarelit say n"nah, its ites the bondage symbol" it really does depend on who it is and where it is.

You say its not wise, I say it is, we can disagree with eachother till we`re blue in the face 😛 but it wont make a difference, the symbol wont be obvious except to those who know what it is, thats how most people want it and its for the reasons ive stated.

Besides, theres clearly alot of intelect floating about in our community, it would almost be an easy way out to go with something obvious and generic like a feather on a foot. Somethign with a deeper and more cryptic meaning would suit far better.

As a side not, do you feel as tho the bondage symbol should perhaps be changed to a person tied up? so that its not to subliminal?

 

[MasterPaladin]

To use the tree alone might spark questions to use a background in it gives you the option to explain it however you wish if you don't want the person asking to know about it. Example the one I made with the one hand could be explained the symbol in the hand represents nerves and has a hand looking like steel meaning nerves of steel. If you wish to be able to explain it I would say use a background. This is only my opinion.

PS oh I don't hide behind a screen name My Real Name is Thomas Franchesco Petrozza

 

[Tiger.Lily]

After everything that has happend here I still feel like the simple neruon tree that Haribish made first is the best so far. Why make it so much more complicated? Seems like moust people here dig the Neuron tree. All the other "extras" around it can be added individual by people who want it. Thats what people does with the BDSM emblem as well. They create the background or extras to it like they want. Thats the beauty about having it as simple as possible, so people can add stuff to it themselfs to make it more personal...

I have to disagree with you. While I do think that the neuron tree is striking in appearance, I still think it leaves something to be desired as far as conveying "tickling". Neuron = sensation, not necessarily tickling. I also don't like the idea of the tickling emblem being about the TMF. Perhaps I'm misreading the message, but I don't quite understand the idea behind the tree concept of "branching out" unless it's specifically talking about the TMF and how we're a growing community. And I don't think that the emblem should focus on the TMF, it should focus on the tickling fetish as a whole.

The neuron is lovely, but I think that SOMETHING should be added to convey "tickling fetishism", and not just an enjoyment of sensation. I think it's definitely on the right path, though.

 

[Tiger.Lily]

Good point (and that I mean without a shade of sarcasm, unlike above 🙂 ). Granted, I was initially under the impression that after a suitable number of entries had been made, there'd be a whittling-down process and a separate, polling thread to take votes from everyone on our options, but I've been under false impressions about such things before, and I shall therefore unimpress myself of such notions...

I completely agree that this is how it SHOULD be -- not just settling on a BASIC emblem that so many feel is lacking in something.

But, I hope you don't mind if I continue to add a couple of things to the thread beyond this decision, as I come to the final versions of pieces for Libertine and KittenToes, and if I come up with any other little thing I might think suitable for the topic.

I really hope that you will. Most of what you've shared I've liked just as much as the neuron -- specifically the tri-feather, and the feather/stomach circle. I think if there was a way to make it into just TWO feathers of opposites it would be more appropriate to the fetish. Does that make sense?

 

[MasterPaladin]

I have to disagree with you. While I do think that the neuron tree is striking in appearance, I still think it leaves something to be desired as far as conveying "tickling". Neuron = sensation, not necessarily tickling. I also don't like the idea of the tickling emblem being about the TMF. Perhaps I'm misreading the message, but I don't quite understand the idea behind the tree concept of "branching out" unless it's specifically talking about the TMF and how we're a growing community. And I don't think that the emblem should focus on the TMF, it should focus on the tickling fetish as a whole.

The neuron is lovely, but I think that SOMETHING should be added to convey "tickling fetishism", and not just an enjoyment of sensation. I think it's definitely on the right path, though.

If you have any Ideas at all post one I will try it I did try it twice with hands in a lobster claw but it was shot down. Give me some Ideas here lol

 

[MasterPaladin]

you posted before I did and gave me an idea lol 2 feathers one on either side of the stem of the tree

 

[-Hari-]

I have to disagree with you. While I do think that the neuron tree is striking in appearance, I still think it leaves something to be desired as far as conveying "tickling". Neuron = sensation, not necessarily tickling. I also don't like the idea of the tickling emblem being about the TMF. Perhaps I'm misreading the message, but I don't quite understand the idea behind the tree concept of "branching out" unless it's specifically talking about the TMF and how we're a growing community. And I don't think that the emblem should focus on the TMF, it should focus on the tickling fetish as a whole.

The neuron is lovely, but I think that SOMETHING should be added to convey "tickling fetishism", and not just an enjoyment of sensation. I think it's definitely on the right path, though.

The Neuron tree, by my understanding when subtle_feather came up with it, symbolises a few things,

1, One thing vital to our fetish be you a ler or a lee and no matter what your preference, its the neurons that make it possible, so it symbolizses the realisation of that.

2, The ongoing growth of the tickling community as a whole, not just the TMF, we certainly dont rule the tickling world, but we are one of many brances from the core that is "the people" and there are many others in the shape of other forums, and of course the offline community which is made up of people who choose not to take theyre fetish to forums like we do and people who simply havent found us yet.

3, The interaction between lee and ler, this is the circle in the middle, the symbol itself is the sensation and the circle is surronded by that sensation. you need one to have the other or the circle wouldnt be there.

As I said as some point....not sure when but im sure I said it, due to everyones seporate preferences, for a symbol of our fetish to be valid, it cannot involve things that arnt applicable to everyone involved. So using the tree as an example, it covers the community growth, the realisation that sensation is what tickling is all about and that we need the lee and the ler and the interaction between the two.

Im not sure what else you can add to make it more about tickling without pushing it into realms that make it invalid to a portion of the community, and also, do we need to? for instance how would you make it more focused on tickling? you cant add fingers or a feather or a ticklish area because peopels preferences on those things differ so much.

I think that the symbol, be it the tree or something else, should focus on the points I mention above.

It would work if you look at it this way,

say its done, and we have our symbol:

Stranger "what is that?"

Me "its the symbol for tickling fetishism"

Stranger "really?, how so?"

Me "Well it relates to tickling in this mannor(blah blah blah) and so it symbolises the things important to me and everyone else in the community about tickling.


I hope that made sense 😛

 

[Cavum]

I have to disagree with you. While I do think that the neuron tree is striking in appearance, I still think it leaves something to be desired as far as conveying "tickling". Neuron = sensation, not necessarily tickling. I also don't like the idea of the tickling emblem being about the TMF. Perhaps I'm misreading the message, but I don't quite understand the idea behind the tree concept of "branching out" unless it's specifically talking about the TMF and how we're a growing community. And I don't think that the emblem should focus on the TMF, it should focus on the tickling fetish as a whole.

The neuron is lovely, but I think that SOMETHING should be added to convey "tickling fetishism", and not just an enjoyment of sensation. I think it's definitely on the right path, though.

When did I say the neuron was gonna be a icon for the TMF? Looks like you think thats what I mean. I still think the simple neuron tree is the best so far and I don't understand why so much more have to be added on it. Take the BDSM emblem for example. It's simple and don't have alot of extras. The way you expain the neuron tree would be like adding a picture of a whip, ropes etc on the BDSM emblem. It's not nessesery. Why create something with so much extras that makes it less appealing to people? Take the feather for example. Some people here loves the feather like theyre own mother, wile others hate it like the pluage...yet both kind of people like tickling. Why would something like the feather then be added on the symbol? Im not saying Im gonna deside how it's gonna be like and I agree people should vote on it, but I just don't see the point on adding so much (sorry the term) crap to it just to make it more obvious that it stands for tickling...

 

[-Hari-]

Also thought it best to point out, im not necessarily rooting for the tree (pun-tastic) But it serves as a good example of what I believe we should be aiming for as it covers all of the aspects I have so far been able to agree with that should be symbolised, of course im open to more things and will pick at them the best I can cause...well...im likely to arnt I but we really should be fussy about this concept so if theres a hint that somethings being symbolised that doesnt apply to everyone then im gonna argue its validity 😛

I would LOVE to see other designs that cover the the things that are valid for the symbol.

It really will be a whittling down and vote type thingymabob, but we need some more solid ideas first.

I really do erge people to steer away from things like feathers tho... I cant stress enuf how much of a contradiction it would be for people like me who dont have any interest in involving feathers in theyre fetish, I know its classically a tickling thing but that wasnt our choice as a community, tickling is a sensation between two people and I believe the symbol should reflect that as plainly and as simply as possible without casting assumptions about how we choose to cause that sensastion.

 

[Cavum]

here is one more example on why things are good simple.

Here is the BDSM emblem...simple and alone

And here is some examples of how people have made it more personal to themself:

Making a finishes resault full off extras ain't nessesery...
People can add extras if they feel like it themself so it get's more personal.

 

[MasterPaladin]

these are for skipadeedoodah the key inside the keyhole needs to be clearer I did this fast

 

[Cavum]

these are for skipadeedoodah the key inside the keyhole needs to be clearer I did this fast

What does this represent?

 

[MasterPaladin]

I don't know skipadeedoodah wanted to see it ask her LOL

 

[Cavum]

I don't know skipadeedoodah wanted to see it ask her LOL

ah..hehe ok 😉

skipadeedoodah what does it mean???

 

[Tiger.Lily]

Hari -- It all makes perfect sense. And like I said, I can follow along with the concept so far, but I still think it lacks a certain something to direct it specifically to tickling. So far all it says is "sensation" and "community". I don't see "tickling" anywhere in it...with the exception of, perhaps, the T that Myriads so perceptively pointed out.

Im not sure what else you can add to make it more about tickling without pushing it into realms that make it invalid to a portion of the community, and also, do we need to? for instance how would you make it more focused on tickling? you cant add fingers or a feather or a ticklish area because peopels preferences on those things differ so much.

Well...hmm. I suppose we could start with a word association and go from there. I'm just going to ramble and go from there so excuse me. 😛 For example, when I think of tickling I think of laughter, feathers, sensuality, connection ... to name a few. If we're eliminating words that don't apply to the community as a whole, I'd eliminate feathers. I would say that sensuality and connection are already addressed so far with what we have. That leaves laughter. What kind of icon could convey laughter or happiness? A smile would be my first thought. Not necessarily a blatant smile...but maybe a curvature subtly placed to represent it.

I don't know if I'm getting across what I'm wanting to. I'd really appreciate it if people would throw out some words for a word association. When you think "tickling" what words or concepts come to mind?

When did I say the neuron was gonna be a icon for the TMF? Looks like you think thats what I mean. I still think the simple neuron tree is the best so far and I don't understand why so much more have to be added on it. Take the BDSM emblem for example. It's simple and don't have alot of extras. The way you expain the neuron tree would be like adding a picture of a whip, ropes etc on the BDSM emblem. It's not nessesery. Why create something with so much extras that makes it less appealing to people? Take the feather for example. Some people here loves the feather like theyre own mother, wile others hate it like the pluage...yet both kind of people like tickling. Why would something like the feather then be added on the symbol? Im not saying Im gonna deside how it's gonna be like and I agree people should vote on it, but I just don't see the point on adding so much (sorry the term) crap to it just to make it more obvious that it stands for tickling...

I didn't say that you specifically were wanting the neuron to be an icon for the TMF. It's just what the idea of the "tree" was conveying to me was a focus on the TMF. I completely understand what you're saying about the BDSM emblem. But adding something like a "whip or a rose" isn't what I'm saying at all. I like the style in general, but I think that all we have thus far for the neuron is "sensation" and "community" -- not "tickling". I'm not looking for a feather, or a pair of hands. I'm looking for something that conveys laughter, or ........ something that directly relates to tickling. Not JUST sensation. Because when I think "sensation" PLUS "laughter" (etc.) I THINK tickling. Whereas you could see "sensation" plus "frowning" equals pain.

The only thing that I'm stuck on is WHAT conveys tickling that doesn't eliminate the preferences of the community? The only thing I can think of is laughter or smiling, but I'm hoping that someone else can shine some light because I'm failing miserably. 🙂

But that is what I think would make the perfect emblem -- "sensation", "community", "laughter" ("smiling", "_____", etc.)

I really hope I'm making sense. Blarg. xD