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Love Hina Weekend Update (F/F, upperbody)

:drool:😱 uuuuuuuuuuuuu.....😛 Nessy and HDS, sitting ona tree....😛
 
Doing much, much more than that. You could write a romance novel with what they've done.
 
:wooha: and just how do YOU know....oh wait, never mind.🙄 mr bat probably flew in to get a 1st class view.😛
 
the darkside, I sense in you....🙄what suprise, that is, huh? 😛
 
What investigation are you on now? The Case Of The Missing Watson? 😛

He's your partner, so you'd better get on it.
 
I see. So thats why.

I don't mind if my forum threads are bumped up regardless of age. I wouldn't consider that wrong or ill advised being that my forum is outside of the other forums, so I'm not "bumping down" anything by responding to you here. 😛
 
sweet! :drool:

What have you heard of the Revenge of the Sith DVD? Anything special?
 
I haven't looked into really. Its going to have the usual extras, and probably a few we don't expect. The main one is probably the explaination of the Prophecy of Anakin as the Chosen One and give a more definite answer to that.

I'm more interested in listening to the dvd commentary during the movie though during key scenes so George can explain those. I'm mostly looking forward to seeing how he explains the Sidious/Windu duel and the Sidious/Yoda duel. These two duels have a lot of controversy about them (such as did Sidious truely throw his duel with Windu because he knew Anakin was coming and he needed to look like the victim so Anakin would be forced to make a decision to save him, or did Windu legitimately beat Palpatine and the rest is true and Palpatine just took advantage of the new situation).

Palpatine fans, such as myself think of what happened in two different ways:

Palpatine set the entire event up, starting by revealing to Anakin who he really is knowing that Anakin, still loyal to the Jedi Order, would tell any available Master of this news.

Palpatine didn't necessarily know who would come to arrest him, but he knew some would, and that it would be more than one and some or all of them would be Masters.

This shows us that Palpatine clearly wants to eliminate as many high-ranking Jedi as possible before he executes Order 66. If more of them are dead before the order is executed, then theres less of a chance for the Jedi to fight back effectively (whichever ones survived order 66 and/or any that remained on the capitol and jedi temple.)

Palpatine knows that they know now he's the Sith Master, and he doesn't hesitate to use the Force immedietely after the arrest attempt in his office. He leaps over his desk and kills 3 of the Jedi Masters (all council members as well) in mere seconds and forces Mace Windu back. A favorted tactic among powerful Sith is to save the strongest opponent for last.


Most people, regardless of what their opinions are, will not disagree with what's happened thus far.

Now, this is where there are two opinions in the Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious fan group:

1.) The duel itself. Palpatine was superior to Windu and was simply toying with him, buying time for Anakin to get there because he's already tempted him to show up. He parrys with Windu rather than going for a kill for this reason. He puts himself in a life-threatening situation with the Jedi Master by allowing himself to be disarmed at the right time in the duel but knows that Windu will still try to arrest him (Windu even still wants to at this point) "You are under arrest, my lord!" He (Palpatine) needs Anakin to be there to make a choice and he's confident Anakin will side with him when it comes to Palpatine dying (Palaptine can't be allowed to die because Anakin believes that Sidious can save Padme).

or

2.) They are equal or Sidious is superior, but his form of saber fighting versus what Mace uses keeps Palpatine from putting an end to the fight (if he wanted to, but he didn't so this theory doesn't need to be tested). The duel is balanced much like the Yoda/Sidious duel therefore, and neither man gain an edge over the other or can at this point. Sidious doesn't even need an edge over Mace, because he knows what will happen anyway. Its not until Mace Windu delivers the spinning back kick to the face that causes Palpatine to lose his saber and be backed into the corner. Sidious forfeits the duel in order to win the prize- Anakin Skywalker.


The Mace Windu fans believe it a different way for the following reasons:

Palpatine could not have possibly forseen that Anakin would show up at the necessary time or that any of these precise events could have been planned. He's simply not that powerful in the Force. Therefore the entire confrontation with the Jedi, while intentional, was not predictable in his eyes, and while able to kill three masters, he could not kill Windu without Anakin's help so long as Windu had his lightsaber (though many will admit that Palpatine's lightning was so powerful that Windu couldn't hold him for much longer at that his saber would fail him).



As a Palpatine fan it will be a blow for sure if Lucas says that Windu legitimately defeated Sidious because either he's the better swordsman or he merely beat him this time (in other words, if they faught more than once, then hypothetically the result may not be the same).

I think its clear through that the Force was stronger at this point toward Palpatine and his usage of it, which fuelled Palpatine, while in the future, the Force aided Luke.
 
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well, I'm a jar-jar fan, so.....😛😛

All this star wars got a question in my mind; and I think a sidious fan is the one to answer it!😀 Did Sidious actually FORSEE that Quigon will find and take anakin? (Episode 1). If he didn't then what was his origional plan? Kill all Jedi and take over the Universe?
 
I'll answer your second question first. In order for Darth Sidious to claim the galaxy as his own he had to remove the two remaining threats: The Jedi Order and the remnants of the beauracracy and democracy of the Old Republic. The Jedi represent the physical opponents, and the Republic itself represents the technical opponent.

Obviously he makes a very true statement to Mace Windu during the confrontation in his office.

"What you're saying could be construded as treason."- Palpatine (to accuse and arrest Palpatine)

"That is for the Galactic Republic and the Senate to decide!"- Windu

"I am the Senate!"- Palpatine (using his actual, deeper voice as Sidious)

So basically, he already gained control of the Republic, but the Jedi were a necessary target to eliminate, which is why Order 66 is so important. In the confusion of battle, the Jedi can be killed and the Republic will be none the wiser. The Masters and Knights left on Coruscant were left to Darth Vader and Darth Sidious to deal with.

The whole coup was meant to claim everything in one fell stroke, and it succeeded obviously, with the exception of Kenobi and Yoda surviving.


As for your first question, that too is hard to answer, especially if it's just an opinion. This is why that extra footage and commentary is going to be so important on the dvd. It will explain the origins of Skywalker, hopefully.

But several viable opinions have been created. And one of them is that Palpatine is in fact Anakin's father. Not his biological father, but by means of Palpatine being the one who created him in Shmi's womb. It's possible that Darth Plagueis is the father/creator, and that would explain part of why Sidious kills his master in his sleep, in an attempt to take the child and have it raised to serve him as a Sith.

This would mean that Sidious already knew about Tatoonie and Shmi Skywalker and why Maul so easily was able to track the Queen to the planet. I don't think he anticipated a Jedi Knight would ever come into contact with his son, but it worked to his benefit obviously. Sidious would not have the time to train Anakin from birth, plus he had Maul at the time and that will have broken the rule of two. He aqquired Tyrannus not too long after Maul's death. So it was just better that he allowed the Jedi to train him all the while corrupting him on the side.

Anakin was subjected to the Dark Side from the very beginning. He was a slave, he lived in fear and resentment for his situation and his mother's situation, and it pretty much starts from early childhood. Palpatine may chosen this far off planet for Anakin to be born and raised on, because it is not consider to be a part of the Republic, and the Jedi and others aren't likely to travel to investigate this planet, for any reason.

Its the perfect place to raise your pet experiment.
 
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Well, that brings me something to think about.....interesting. :happy: What do you believe? (regarding the 1st question). You said many philosophies were created, and you also listed one; is that the one you believe as the one to be true?
 
Well, if Palpatine or his former master is the Anakin's creator, then it would mean that the Jedi Prophecy of Chosen One is incorrect, wrong, or not completely fulfilling.

Its really easy to say Anakin is the Chosen One, because he has so much raw power that it's not natural for a human being. His raw power is unrivaled by all. Mastering it is another matter however.

Qui-Gon Jinn was the first Jedi to forsee Anakin as the one to bring balance. That in itself is another theory too. Is Anakin's birth and existance meant purely to destroy Palpatine, and is it that that is "the balance" itself? That itself is another theory that Lucas will probably explain.

I know that I could explain it, but then that would be my opinion.

To answer you question though, if Anakin is the Chosen One, he's the Chosen One for more than one reason. The balance is not brought merely through the death (or assumed death anyway) of Emperor Palpatine, but by his own children. They are the future and will restore the Jedi Order and help create the New Republic.

So what Qui-Gon saw was an open-ended future that will be attained through Anakin, one way or the other (as Anakin Skywalker or Darth Vader).

Thats what I believe.

In episode III though, Yoda and Windu admit that perhaps the prophecy was misread somehow. That may be true, or it may be false. I'm sure that to them, in the heat of the moment, that it sure seemed like Anakin was not following a Chosen One's path.

So if Anakin is not a Sith creation, then the Chosen One prophecy holds up, even if its incomplete a bit.

If Anakin is a Sith creation however, then its clearly because either Sidious or his master intended Anakin to be their apprentice. It may be why Sidious kills Plagueis in his sleep- because he wants the child for himself and realizes that if Plagueis has it, that would break the rule of two and he will kill his apprentice. Sidious beat him to it, I suppose. If thats why he killed him other than to harness the forbidden lore his master possessed so as to ensure no one else had it but him.


Whether the Force creating Skywalker is the Force's way of balancing itself or he's a Sith child, one thing is certain- through him the balance is brought about anyways. If the Sith did create him, they used the Force to do it, and the Force will control his destiny regardless of what they planned.
 
On the part where you say the it was Sidious who was that padewan who killed his master after he obtained the knowledge he needed; seems true.

http://www.lucasarts.com/games/swbattlefrontii/indexFlash.html#Home

This is the website for the Battlefront 2 game. If you go to gameplay on the menu bar at the left, scroll down to imperial, and then then to imperial characters, it will give you some bio on the characters you can play with. (but not all). However, one of the NEW characters you can play with is the Emperor, and at the bio it says that he is the sith who killed his master for immortality. So, this part is now I believe 100% sure, because George worked with the game creators, so any information put must be true. You might wanna look over it, perhaps you might find it interesting. I wil buy it for sure; you can play both as Yoda and the Emperor! Man, this should be good....🙂
 
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