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Message from England

Yes Biggles...............

..........I think you may be right! could you "feel the force"!!!lol!!!????? good old newty a legend in his own lunch time. Hey did you hear a Brit special forces guy got a major citation from the U.S. military for saving a load of GI,s assess in Afghanistan?? boy! that must have really pissed them off!!! just think of it biggles? your ass saved by a Limey!!!
 
Biggles of 266 said:
sigh... what I meant was, that the entire country doesn't hate America, it's just the bullshit that the news media like to show. Should we believe everything they tell us? If they show me 50 people celebrating in Palestine, I think "there are 50 sick people from Palestine," not "oh boy, all Palestinians hate us now!" We're both seeing what we want. I'm seeing selective depiction in support of government opinion, and you're seeing a world united in its hatred of America. Hopefully, we're both wrong.




Red... your topic of conversation is threatening to drag Neutered in here with a big hot burst of red white and boring rant. Can't wait to hear from him! :zzzzz:

Biggles
Hopefully, indeed. Shame we can't hoist a few somwhere to just that!


Oh, and may I just say :blaugh: :jester: :evilha: What did Neutered do to deserve THAT? ROFL!
 
BTW, Red...

...any chance you can elaborate on the British Special Forces chap that saved a bunch of Americans? This is the first I've heard of it. And I know that if I'd had my bacon pulled outta the fire by some SAS bloke, I know damned well I'd be properly grateful and not begrudge him the fact that he's from another country's armed forces! I know for a fact that when I was in the Gulf for Desert Shield/Storm, we were some of the first ones deployed to the site we were at, and we had NO alert fighters, so we were understandably a tich nervous about this. So when the Brits arrived with a small squadron of Tornados, we were damned glad to see them!
 
Dan: you get over here, and I'll buy so you can taste your first real beer 😛 Here's to being wrong!

Red: I haven't heard about the limey special forces guy, but I know an Australian army unit got a citation for helping a US army unit who got too deep into shit. An SAS bloke got a medal too, but of course, nobody can know what it's for.
 
New developments in France & Germany

As you may know by now, France & Germany just finished saying that they won't support a liberation of Irag. This is important because France has a membership on the UN Security Council and therefore has veto authority on UN military action.

I was surprised to hear this. You can't tell because my logon doesn't have my full last name, but I happen to be of French Canadian lineage. I'm ashamed of it now, because the French just turned their backs on the very country that liberated them, just so they could ally w/the country we liberated them from!

Also ironic is the fact that the Germans will not support the liberation, either. All the years that East Germany was under the sway of the communists, we Americans wanted a democratic, strong, unified Germany to stabilize Europe. We should have been more careful of what we asked for--we've got it now, but it didn't help us the way we thought it would.

Because of this, it's a safe bet the UN will not support our efforts to save the world from Hussein. Gallup polls have indicated for a long time that the American people will not support a liberation of Irag w/o UN support. And since the Bush's approval ratings are now @ 60% and dropping, as six Democrats (smelling blood in the water), there's a very good chance that the war so many people are afraid of won't happen.

So why do I take no comfort from that?

Maybe because that means Hussein is still free to do what he's been doing all along. Maybe because the US is now letting the UN control restrict its actions, even if those actions may be justified for the defense of America and the rest of the civilized world.

Which brings me to a question that scares the hell out of me: why are we still in the UN?

1. We've already lost our position on the human rights council because we don't have a moratorium on capital punishment.

2. Despite a $6 trillion national debt, in addition to our substantial UN dues (currently in arrears) we fund most of the UN's activities on hunger, medicine & disaster relief, but we can't make so much as a dent in any of these problems.

3. UN troops are overwhelming American troops, bleeding & dying for other countries after taking an oath to protect this one.

4. Our enemies grow legion, and even friends like France & Germany do not support in our time of need.

5. The US seat on the security council didn't save even one person of the 3,000 who died in the 9/11 terrorist attack.

Tough call. If Bush invades Iraq w/o UN support, he'll probably lose the 2004 election. If he doesn't invade Iraq, then Hussein can keep supporting terrorist acts against the rest of the world.

If France & Germany allow petty jealousy of American power, or fear of Iraqi retribution, to manipulate America from doing what is right--then I only hope we can all live w/the consequences.
 
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