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mind over tickling?

JAT

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Can anyone explain why some people have more mental control over tickling then others?

For instance...

My wife is extreamly, I mean EXTREAMLY ticklish, but if she chooses not to be ticklish she can lift her arm and I can try to tickle her under her arms with no success. When normally she's laughing so hard she's on the verge of passing out. I, on the other hand, am extreamly ticklish as well but cannot control my ticklishness mentally. The only way I'm not ticklish is if I'm very angry.

Any guesses???
 
I would guess it has a lot to do with how you subconsciously interpret the tickling, in ways you can't really control or understand, and that affects your mental capacity to control that aspect of your physical self.

Mostly, I tend to blame it on the same thing on which I blame all the evil and injustice in the world: Tony Robbins. :sowrong:
 
i`ve found that some girls can control their ticklishness if they see it coming but cant if you catch them off their guard , my present g/f is one of them , on the other hand others have been ticklish in every scenario , try creeping up on her sometime JAT ............:yowzer:
 
That drives me CRAZY when a woman can do that! It makes me think she is not all that ticklish to begin with and is rather frustrating.

As the ticklee, there is NO WAY I can turn off my ticklishness.
But then again, why would I want to?🙄 😉 😛 😀

TTD:firedevil :scared: :angel:
 
I have been known to be able to 'turn off' my ticklishness, but only when I am in a bad mood, or if the person tickling me doesn't have the right touch. I am also able to ignore it at times, just due to the fact I love it so much. I can sit there and let someone tickle me with no reaction....while in my mind I am totally feeling it and loving every second of it.

Get me with a good vindictive tickler though, and I stand NO CHANCE at holding anything in! LOL!

Mimi 🙂
 
Mimi?

I am SO going to remember you said that...he he he:devil:
 
Mimi Mimi Mimi, I am taking notes on that!😉 😀 :devil:

Can't wait to meet you, someday soon and we will test your theory!

TTD:firedevil :scared: :angel:
 
I've met people before that could control their ticklishness. I am not one of those people; however, I've asked and they tell me it's just a matter of telling oneself that it really doesn't tickle. If that ever works for me, I'll let you know. 🙂
 
Over the years, I could swear I’ve put enough thought into this topic to write a dissertation! LOL It began in childhood, when on many occasions I witnessed what appeared to me to be a phenomenon. I’d watch a sibling or parent tickle a child, who would wiggle and laugh hysterically, in an obviously ticklish response. However soon after, (and sometimes immediately), someone, like a friend of the parent, or some other person the child didn’t have the same relationship with, would tickle the child and get absolutely no reaction. Not fear, not anger, just no response. It was almost as though the child was saying, “I don’t know you, you can’t tickle me.” I witness this every now and then now, but it really made an impression on me during my childhood and was the source of my initial wonder about subjective ticklishness.

Way back in the early days of the internet I read where one of our tickle-clan wrote “tickling is 90% mental.” Given the often unknown and untapped powers of the mind, I tend to agree. I also tend to think the parameters for this type of question are different for tickle lovers than for the non-tphiles, because the relationship we have with it automatically shapes our mental perception of it to a degree. From what I’ve seen it seems there has to be an initially understanding it’s possible to control ticklishness. Once that occurs it comes down to mind over matter… or in this case, stimulus. Conversely, desire is also a factor as there are many who never have a desire to not be ticklish or tickled.

Personally, I never liked for someone to use tickling as a method of control or power over me. Now, if my mental state is such that I’m disappointed, upset or otherwise displeased with a situation or the person attempting to tickle me, my ticklishness just shuts off. I still feel it, but I don’t react to it and it’s really not even a conscious thing. In the end who knows why some folks can or can’t? It’s still fun to speculate.
 
Good question!

I can't consciously control my ticklishness, but my subconscious definitely seems to control it for me. Basically, if I ain't comfortable, I ain't ticklish. I can think of a few examples...

... An ex once tried to get me to stop being mad at him by tickling me. Not only did it not tickle in the least, it only succeeded in further pissing me off. Mind you, it took absolutely no effort on my party to not be ticklish - I simply wasn't.

... At a gathering last summer, I had volunteered to be tied to the bed and tickled. I don't have a whole lot of rules when I'm bottoming to 'lers. In fact, there are only two: 1) don't touch my belly button, and 2) Only the people I'm comfortable with can tickle me. During this particular scene, one of my "discomfort" people had managed to enter the room, and started tickling my foot. Although I had been near hysteria not 2 seconds earlier, all laughter ceased and my body just froze. The 'ler who was watching over me noticed the problem immediately, and very quietly took care of the situation. Again, this lack of ticklishness required no conscious effort whatsoever - I just wasn't. Once the discomfort factor was removed, I immediately returned to my giggling self.

My theory is that whether or not a person is ticklish at a given moment has a whole lot to do with how comfortable they are - both mentally and physically. So... if you find that your 'lee suddenly ain't givin' up the giggles s/he usually does, ya might wanna stop and see what the problem is. No one should go around pissin' off a perfectly good 'lee. 😉

... Anna
 
Dragon...I can fully understand everything you mentioned in your post here about discomfort with a ler etc, but, if I may ask, why the no bellybutton rule?
Not that I am particularily INTO bellybuttons per say, you just got my curiosity peaked.😕.

TTD:firedevil :scared: :angel:
 
90% mental...

but still physical, as well. Despite a number of articles to the contrary, I can't even touch myself with any degree of pressure along the hip bones without getting all giggly inside, and my feet - same way, though to a lesser degree. It's obviously much more powerful when sombebody else is doing it, but it's still there. Just my experiences to date. 🙂
 
YIKES!

What have I done?! Anyone have any salt to go with this foot?

::rereads Dave2112's and TTD's posts::

Welp, I've always been told to come prepared!

::runs off to dig suit of armor out of closet::

:scared: :cry1: 😛 😀

Mimi
 
Suit of Armor, huh....guess I will have to bring my can opener!😉 😀 :devil:


TTD:firedevil :scared: :angel:
 
I've met several people who can control their reactions well. However, that's not the same as controlling ticklishness. Caught unaware, the same people tend to react very ticklishly, as another poster here mentioned.

To me, it's one of the most wonderful experiences if a ticklee tries to control herself at the beginning, but then finally can't hold back anymore. The 'breaking of a control-freak', so to say... 😀

The Chinese say: 'The ultimate form of self-control is to know when to let go.' :cool2:
 
I know a young lady out of Montana who is like that, who says she's only ticklish "sometimes".

She does admit to being pretty darned ticklish, but one would have to catch her totally off guard, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread. She says it's a good thing she can block it out, as she likes to go and get massages and pedicures on a regular basis...and it would be impossible for her to stay still otherwise.

She learned how to control the reactions early on.....but wouldn't elaborate further. Bad experiences? Could be.

It's a damn shame when circumstances become such that a person is left with no alternative but to shut off their bodies' tactile responses.
 
It is kinda odd how it can be "turned-off" at times. I'm am absolutely not ticklish when I'm angry. ...When I'm tired, I'm ticklish, but it doesn't show as much as normal... ...And when I'm concentrating, for example, studying for a final, or figuring my finances, I'm ticklish...but it takes a few seconds for the tickles to register...Then I go nutts.
 
Not mind over tickling, but a strange occurence

When I was dating (tickling) in college, I dated a girl with the most delicious ticklish sides. Her feet were formed to my liking, high arches, toes in descending size, beautiful. Her feet had a strange characteristic. Her left foot was not at all ticklish, her right foot, very. And she wasn't faking it either. We played a game called "exploration", her focus was to turn me on, my focus (unknown to her) was to tickle. Sexual areas were off limits. More than once that left foot spoiled my game of exploration.:disgust:
 
I dated two different girls in college that could control their ticklishness, or at least their response to it. One said she was ticklish but that she had learned to control it when a young teenager because her brothers use to hold her down and tickle the daylights out of her. The most reaction I ever got was a flinch if I surprised her. The other one could pretty well control her response unless I surprised her, then she lost it. Fortunately, my wife, who is very ticklish, has no control over it, although I have never tried tickling her when she is angry. I am very ticklish, but when angry, I don't respond. I learned that when my first wife tried tickling me one time when I was very mad, and I just laid there, it didn't tickle at all. But I think I have to be very, very angry for that to occur.
 
I can sometimes tune out and keep from reacting....which drives Drew nuts! But, I can never do it for very long. When I used to be more into meditating, I was better at it. I suspect that those who are able to quiet our minds can more readily quiet the reactions. After all...the nerves ARE sending messages to the brain.

It's not about tickling. But, there's an excellent book called "The Gift Nobody Wants". It's about pain and how our body reacts to physical stimuli...both as a natural and cultural response. There are a lot of parallels to tickling reactions if you ask me.

Ann
 
Interesting you mention that book, ann, because it has alot to do with what I was going to share...

I have a friend who lets me tickle her, and we were talking about how sometimes she is ticklish and sometimes isn't.... she told me that "usually I can control it" I asked her how, and she simply told me "by growing up with an abusive alcoholic dad."

now I know this girl well, and she was not referring to any tickling going on in her home as a child. She was making the comarison that she had to learn how to disassociate certain physical feelings.... in her case it was pain from being hit, but could be generalized to tickling apparently.... both are just physical sensation after all.

This instance in my life, along with what I know about the human condition, lead me to believe that a person can learn to not feel tickling, although it would probably take something really drastic to happen in order to be able to do so (like going into survival mode after being abused by it). The brain is a powerful thing, and can convince our bodies of almost anything, including not being ticklish.

I hope that my input here didn't bring anyone down, even though I recounted a story of abuse. Just so you know, she is a sucessful, wonderful, happy person, her father got help looong ago, and everyone is living happily ever after.

Thats my take on the issue.

Slappy McGee
 
actually Slappy....

It WAS something that was sometimes used in abuse on me. For a long time, I couldn't stand the thought of being tickled and even had nightmares about it. (That's where the Tormentor story I did came from.) In my case, it was one thing I was UNable to tune out...maybe because it seemed minor in comparison to other things. But, I DID learn to check out as a survival instinct. Now, I can use it to advantage on other things when I choose...including driving Drew nuts by checking out on him tickling me. The big difference is that it's now a choice and not an auto-response.

Ann
 
it is an interesting phenominon, and if you are familiar with the story of "sybil" at all, which is about dissociative disorder (multiple personality), it is pretty much the same thing to a much lesser degree when you discribe "checking out" . interesting how the mind and body works. well, I'm glad you are ina better place now in your life.

Slappy McGee

PS, cool little tongue monster animated thingy. 🙂
 
While I can't turn off tickling, I have had a little bit of success with turning off pain. After my motorcycle accident (I shattered 2 vertebrea) I was in a lot of pain. After a while I learned how to lessen or even completely get rid of the pain. It's not easy though. It takes a lot of concentration. I don't really know how I do it, it's kind of like pushing the sensations away and holding them there. If I get distracted, the pain comes rushing back. While my back no longer hurts, I can still do it for headaches.
 
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