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most hilarious furry image ever

Kalamos said:
Just relating dussicar words:


They have done this to "stoop to the lowest common denominator" in order to generate sympathy from an internet community that by and large, hates them as a whole, and has turned them into a laughing stock.


I was asking why are they despised as a whole.
I have little experience of them, so I have no set stance.



Reputation should be deserved, else it's prejudice.
I understand they are suspected of engaging in bestiality, but I guess there is more to it.
They wouldn't be the "laughing stock" without a good reason.



The rainbow pattern established that: we are talking about furries [both real people and imaginary characters] as a sexual fetish.


1.) I think he was talking primarily about the artist of this picture, at least at first. That is what started this afterall. The contempt that would be rightfully had if it could be proven that this artist was using homosexuality as a bartering tool to further furries.

2.) Answered by # 1.

3.) Those fractions of people, yes. This artist as well, we just don't know and won't.

4.) The user that has posted above me, Coop, has just proven my point about these two things needing to be seperated, even in the artwork and stories and media.

Clearly there is the drawing of humanoid animals or vice versa as a drawing style, and then theres as a perversion, however sexual it may be, perpetuated by actual real life people which should have a sense of moral judgement. Let them aqquire the disgust, the artists and the like don't deserve it unless they too are portraying the same in their art.

Art is what it is, but people can't be so easily excused by a sense of ration and reason, especially when they would take it to such a point.

I think that its rather uncooth that a furry artist or someone who has just happened to draw some furries would be associated with this type of behavior unknowingly or unfairly just because others make it a perversion.

Thats all I'm saying.
 
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I found this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_lifestyler though I can't guarantee the accuracy of the information:

A furry lifestyler may also take on physical attributes of an animal, although this is rare. Such attributes may be: hair style (including facial hair), tattoos, articles of clothing (e.g. a tail or ears), or jewelry. In a few extreme cases, some wealthy lifestylers have used elective surgery to affect a physical transformation.

Furry lifestylers generally refer to themselves as furries or furs, although this term is not exclusive to them.
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A notable feature of the furry lifestyle is the very high proportion of its members who are gay or bisexual, especially the latter. Estimates as to the number of gay/bi furs range widely, and serious research into the subject is almost non-existent.
 
Theres the keyword I'm looking for to distinguish the guiltless, good and otherwise unobsessed creators of furrys from the others- lifestyle.

Thats the word, lifestyle.

Drawing, watching or creating furries is definitely not a lifestyle, its just an art choice like anime is. Making yourself an animal and going to great lengths to achieve and live that is a different realm altogether from merely dressing up for cons.

Like alot of things, I just wish people would pay enough mind to know the differences. While its been self-evident in this discussion its not always so anywhere.
 
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Wow this thread has gotten long! I'm going to reply to something back on the last page now lol.
I'm embarassed to say this, but when I initially posted that message I was half drunk. I had a slight hint that the colour scheme behind the anthropomorphic animal WAS indeed a gay pride symbol, but felt uncomfortable saying anything out of fear that I was wrong.

I guess it's because I was raised in California in and around the SF Bay Area and in the homosexual-heavy redwoods just north of there but I have absolutely no trouble identifying the rainbow flag when I see it. Kalamos pointing it out seemed redundant to me as I figured anyone who saw it would know immediately (from the thumbnail even) what the picture was about.
I learned from my husband though that outside of gay communities this is not such a recognizable symbol. Until I moved out here he had no idea what it meant when he'd see it on bumper stickers and such until I told him. And his own sister is gay.

Still...a hate furries. 😛
 
I had added this segment to my previous post but, it uploaded after many other peoples replies so, I guess it was missed so, I've moved it to here.

[/QUOTE]Its much more laughable to even think of someone mentally figuring they have to dress up in a ridiculous animal costume (or worse yet have plastic surgey and what not) to live their fantasies (in the more extreme cases in which questioning would be warranted). People think of a guy dressed up as a squirrel doing it with some woman and they laugh and rightfully so. The mere image or thought is either funny, so sad its funny, or so bizarre nothing else can be uttered but a laugh.[/QUOTE]

I find that pretty cruel, Vlad. Sure it's unusual and one may be tempted to laugh at such a thought or sight but, it would be from ignorance. When you're a kid, is it okay to laugh at a fat person just because comic society definds fatness as funny? Are we not taught by our elders that it is clearly not funny? I myself as well as many others in the furry community have no desire for fursuits nor would we require them for sexual acts but, that doesn't mean that those who do are some sort of demented freaks who are looking for an alternative to beastiality.
 
@ Coup-

It wasn't cruel of me and I said nothing of beastiality, Val did. I'm just saying that for people that would condemn people into the furry lifestyle, that the costumes and when/how they are used is just one thing they often use to validate their ignorant opinions. That particular portion of the post was made from the point of view of someone comdemning the furry "lifestyle".

And I only mentioned that as a matter of fact because Kalamos had asked why the people that are into furrys on that level are condemned, so I offered one possibility so as to not give a one-sided, biased post.

What I said does not reflect my personal thoughts on the matter, and was meant as a partial answer to Kalamos as to why some find it easier to condemn furries to begin with.

As for laughing at the thought of a person, living the furry lifestyle or not, in an animal costume while having sex, thats not out of ignorance necessarily. Its just literally funny even if that humor isn't derived from an actual disdain for it. And theres nothing wrong with seeing it as such. It is what it is, unfortunately. You can't white wash a funny image.

President Bush for example is often portrayed as a monkey or compared to one in pictures and political propganda, etc. The image itself is funny, but the intent to hurt is not, especially if your support Bush. Note, this is just an example people, not an opening for anything else. 😛

I'm actually glad you called me on this and showed just how such comments aren't fair when they can't possibly apply to everyone in every instance. As there are clearly people who like furries and drawing them or being a part of the fandom somehow, and then there are those who are a part of the furry lifestyle, which is a different level of commitment altogether and quite possibly a psychological need at that point.

If you read any of my other posts, I've clearly stated that its not fair for all elements of the genre to be judged the same way the more extreme cases (even illegal) would be, since they are not the same. So I'm in agreement with you already.
 
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What about those who fantasize about being birds? Is there a separate feathery community? Are there scalies who want to be snakes or lizards? Carapacers who go for lobsters and crabs? (Sings)"A WHITE sport COAT and a PINK crustacean...dooo-WAH, etc."
 
ignatz01 said:
What about those who fantasize about being birds? Is there a separate feathery community? Are there scalies who want to be snakes or lizards? Carapacers who go for lobsters and crabs? (Sings)"A WHITE sport COAT and a PINK crustacean...dooo-WAH, etc."

I would think it all goes into the same genre but I'm sure there are groups or cliches dedicated to specific animals. In fact, this would make sense and would be necessary, especially if someone living the furry lifestyle is looking for a compatible partner who is also a furry of the same animal type/breed. It would make the process of finding potential friends or "mates" easier.
 
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Vladislaus Dracula said:
I would think it all goes into the same genre but I'm sure there are groups or cliches dedicated to specific animals. In fact, this would make sense and would be necessary, especially if someone living the furry lifestyle is looking for a compatible partner who is also a furry of the same animal type/breed. It would make the process of finding potential friends or "mates" easier.
Well, that's a relief. It's one thing for a horse to fall in love with a donkey and raise a passle of little mules (happens all the time), but we don't want Dobermans hooking up with Persian cats or badgers getting it on with our prize Herefords.

"Goats and monkeys!"
--Othello (William Shakespeare)
 
For some odd reason other types like birds and reptiles fall under the furry category as well. Don't know why but, they do. As for crustaceans, I have yet to see that unless you count Bubble Crab from Mega Man X2.
 
ignatz01 said:
Well, that's a relief. It's one thing for a horse to fall in love with a donkey and raise a passle of little mules (happens all the time), but we don't want Dobermans hooking up with Persian cats or badgers getting it on with our prize Herefords.

"Goats and monkeys!"
--Othello (William Shakespeare)

LOL, yeah.
 
CoopXLR said:
For some odd reason other types like birds and reptiles fall under the furry category as well. Don't know why but, they do. As for crustaceans, I have yet to see that unless you count Bubble Crab from Mega Man X2.

Well, it depends if its a fictional creation or an animal you are trying to emulate in the real world. In artwork, stories and media, any animal or creature which speaks or has any human-like nuance or personality to them is generally accepted as a furry.

In the real world however, furrys trying to emulate a crustacean may have a hard time making that possible, since many crustaceans live in such an obscure and idle way that it would be hard to associate with one in the first place.

Such feelings, even if impractical in and of themselves, probably stem from a love for the sea and its creatures. If thats true then it would be easier to choose a dolphin for example. But how you are going to pull that off is just as impossible and/or impractical as the crustaceans.

Any land-based mammal is far easier a choice than anything sea-dwelling, obviously.
 
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If I wanted to be a furry I think I'd want to be a fox. That would suit me. Its more and more common these days with those Starfox games and all, but its still one of the better choices I could make.

I've thought of mythical creatures as well, but haven't decided on anything.
 
Vladislaus Dracula said:
If I wanted to be a furry I think I'd want to be a fox. That would suit me. Its more and more common these days with those Starfox games and all, but its still one of the better choices I could make.


Nothing wrong with that. Lots of guys in the furry realm identify with foxes. I'm more partial to the dog myself but when it comes to the ladies, I go for the cats, foxes and rabbits! GRRROWLLL!! :drool:
 
Well, all this does have a prestigious pedigree. Classical mythology is full of humans being transformed by the gods into various critters, usually as punishment but sometimes as a reward. And Jove of course was notorious for changing into bulls and swans and the like whenever he went skirt-chasing on earth.
For my part, I'll have to be content with periodically making a jackass of myself (which has quite a literary tradition itself, cf "The Golden Asse" and "A Midsummer Night's Dream.")
 
Since I have no set stance about gays, furries, and gay furries, I'll wait for new people to post facts.

It still can't find why that pic - or furries as a whole - are funny or despicable.
Truth is, I don't care enough.
 
Kalamos said:
Since I have no set stance about gays, furries, and gay furries, I'll wait for new people to post facts.

It still can't find why that pic - or furries as a whole - are funny or despicable.
Truth is, I don't care enough.



Well, the funny or despicable aspect wouldn't come from people like us, per se. Somehow, along the great history of the internet, furries managed to recieve a lot of exposure. This, however, was done by your typical "vanilla", or basically your "normal" web poster. As you know, norms don't get along with fetishists. There was a lot(or as is my understanding) of sites crossed with eachother, so your typical norm could browse at their leisure. What they found were pictures of anthropomorphic animals and cartoon characters in a number of situations.
However, through this search, they also found the fetish aspect. Sites with message boards where the posters would have cyber sex by typing barking and howling. This is how they had sex. They also dressed up in animal costumes and met in person. There were graphic pics of bestiality and even animal abuse on the truly extreme and twisted sites.
With that said, you have to understand, that when you average normal poster goes back to the harmless sites and sees sombody who draws a picture of felix the cat eating dinner with bugs bunny(mostly done to showcase his/her artistic abilities), the norm starts to remember the other sites they saw and like all norms, decides to lump them in with the truly freaky sites. This got the ball rolling.
Things became worse when the militant(and by far, the most dysfunctional) furries began to "fight back". Though, I don't want to air the whole history of the great norm/furry internet war on here, I can say that when your fetishes main spokes persons literally refuse to aknowlege that they are not actually animals and are in fact people(though the norms couldn't convince them otherwise) you can begin to appreciate how things eventually turned out.

Unfortunately, throughout this maelstrom, the furry radicals took a new route...That of persicution. They literally developed a persicution complex. They began to liken themselves to oppressed peoples around the world throughout it's history. They have used every symbol under the sun that equates with oppression to push this agenda in a thinly veiled attempt to silence their detractors. Ironically, I've never seen one of these drawings with an S.P.C.A. symbol on it. LOL.

Nonetheless, the norms(and rightfully so) didn't buy it. This REALLY began to fan the flames. Unfortunately, this put a huge pinch on the conservative furries as now, they too began recieving hate mail and other such problems from ignorant norms who refused to see the distinct differences.

That's all I've got the patience to type. Maybe I'll add more later.

I hope this answers at least some of your questions, KALAMOS.
 
Yes it does. Brief and poignant. Just what my patience allowed me to read.
 
"History of Furries", narrated by Dussicar, tonight at 9 on the Discovery Channel. Or was it Animal Planet?

Thanks for the lesson though. "Everything I've ever wanted to know about furries but never got around to asking cause I didn't care all THAT much". Thanks anyway though! At least now I understand better. 😛
 
Yep, Ness is right there. I couldn't understand because I couldn't care.
I guess I am just loitering around, now.

Has anybody got a pretzel?
 
*passes K a large plastic Costco jug of Utz pretzels just to offend the European in him* ^_^
 
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