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footamateur said:
I would say the same about me LOL since i was member of the board before TT and before TMF🙂 jeez I'm pretty old lol 🙂 need to start to tink about retirement

Hey, don't retire. Be an old bastard, an ignorant old bastard who tells kids to get off their lawn and say "I know who your dad is! Go on, get round your own end!" Pretend you're deaf, that's fun.
 
footamateur said:
Any company that sell video will find at least one or two models every 10 that are faking; but since they can't do anything at all because they already paid the model

The simple pont is that: there is nothing bad in admitting (like TIB does), that the model is not ticklish in a certain part of the body, or that is mild ticklish...
i can write that it was a piece of S@%T LOL, while here, as soon as somebody say something, is attacked and repressed because otherwise he can generate caos

Just a suggestion to the producers: think less to money and more to the customers;
Peace&Love guys

Hey Footamateur
thanks for the long, well thought out reply. I appreciate the time you put into it.

I would never attack someone who gives a FAIR assessment of our videos, I have and do encourage people to speak their mind so we can learn more about what our customers think.

However when someone just says something completely over-the-top... I do sometimes have to say something.

I think you and I are really saying the same thing, we just using slightly different words.

What was driving me crazy about tkman was first that he was trying to say a well known member of the community was faking!? Someone who dozens of people on these boards know PERSONALLY and have even tickled themselves at various functions. If he'd have said this about one of our regular models, he would have had a lot more chance of someone actually buying his observation.

AND secondly that he was completely exaggerating.... 95% of all models are not ticklish??? come on... that's just silly. However to say that there are ONLY 1 or 2 in ten that are INSANELY TICKLISH and thrash around the ultimate amount that he'd like to see... well that's a different story!! and I agree! All the producers wait for that really "special girl", the one that is adorable and insanely ticklish. They don't come along every day and we have to live with "VERY TICKLISH" lol!

In other words if he had just said that 95% of models are not INSANELY TICKLISH, although I'd still think that number is a high... I'd have had no problem with the statement as it certainly would have been close to what I perceive as fact! HOWEVER saying that 95% of models are faking.... that's gross exaggeration. (and tkman will be glad to challenge us all and point out the exact spot where every video is faking lol)

I'd also agree that out of 10 you'll get a few that are just not that ticklish or because they have been put on the spot... just don't feel that ticklish when the cameras role. Honestly I think we have been lucky that we have had hardly ANYONE completely fake when they show up at our studios... we are very explanatory to our girls that we'd rather they do nothing then fake... we tell them to just lay there if it doesn't tickle. We also screen and re-screen our girls... telling them if they fake, we'll know, and they will NOT get paid.. so don't waste your time or ours. (telling people they are not going to get paid is a powerful deterrent unless the girl feels sure they are definitely ticklish)

The point is... the better the company... the more they care about trying their best to make sure the girls really are ticklish. I know I've spoken to TIB on this and he has told me of countless hours of video that he's shot that he's trashed and ate the cash because the girl was not ticklish or ticklish ENOUGH. He's been around a lot longer then we are... but we have had to eat a few ourselves and/or just stop bothering with a specific body part that's not ticklish, or move on to something else etc

Also as you mention about TIB, we also go to great lengths to give a VERY long description of the action in our clips... so that if the person is only moderately ticklish, we'll tell you that...

As far as being customer friendly, I have to say we do a pretty good job of that. We listen to our customers and treat them with respect. I would think that our winning Tickling company of the year, 2 years in a row from the TMF goes a long way in saying that we are customer oriented. As a matter of fact... we are far from the leaders in Sales... TIB, and several others sell a lot more to the casual tickler on clips4sale. But we seem to be very well received by the real ticklers and that's what we want!

but in general... I agree with you completely.. RELAX folks... we need to try to remember that this is a tickling board... not world politics 😉
 
moondog83uk said:
Hey, don't retire. Be an old bastard, an ignorant old bastard who tells kids to get off their lawn and say "I know who your dad is! Go on, get round your own end!" Pretend you're deaf, that's fun.


LOL 😀 talking seriously i'm that kind of person in the real life (i've called police on my neigbor more than the times that i speak with him LOL, and just because he was making loud noise at 1 AM of sunday GHGHGH)....so at least on the forum let me be a good jeezer lol
 
BleuFetish said:
Hey Footamateur
thanks for the long, well thought out reply. I appreciate the time you put into it.

I would never attack someone who gives a FAIR assessment of our videos, I have and do encourage people to speak their mind so we can learn more about what our customers think.

>>>>

but in general... I agree with you completely.. RELAX folks... we need to try to remember that this is a tickling board... not world politics 😉

Well, that's the way taht i was expecting when i think about a serious company holder 🙂 making flames has no sense, we are polite person that express tehir ideas, and sometimes is only a matter taht we are not able to find the right way to say teh things because of the language barrier, or because many times we are not able to express what we would like to say useing the right words 🙂 that's why we need to be honest and accept what the other says and try to understand the meaning...even if a sentence is short and may look offensive.

Thanks for understanding BF

1) maybe he doesn't know him 😛

2) maybe he was talking of the models that works for FM concepts 🙂 LOL; even you know that some models trash around only for making "the scene" better, but i would suggest that for the sake of the reactions is better to ahve a clip that is 4-5 min with strong reactions, instead of 20 min straight where the model start to fake/to have mild reactions because tired/desensityzed after 8-9 minutes 🙂 5 minutes of torture and a little bit of rest give her the chance to recover and give again the response that many tickling lovers would like to have, to shoot the second part of the video (even because personally i prefer short clips...long clips tend to be boring after a little; but of course there are many people that would like long clips with mild reactions or simple giggling...i respect every personal preference)

The only thing that i will never forgive to you, dear BF was to not tickle the bare feet of the girl that disappeared after the shoot (the one that was insanely ticklish, and that was tickled with the socks on...forgot the name sorry 😛); because if she is so ticklish with socks on (and also in other body parts, like nipples and underarms and pussy) i can only imagine the reaction without the socks, or with stockings at least 🙂 😛 shame on you LOL!!!!

3)to not pay them before is a great idea, and i wonder why a model that is ticklish would refuse...that's good for the sake of the vids and to save precious time 😛

4) TIB is a great guy (except maybe when he answer to the mail...since he never does LOL and the few mails answered are so telegrafic that seems to receive a reply from a superstar 😀 just kiddin, man ^_^), and i know about the hours of clips trashed; without mentioning when he let us pay teh clips with a big discount because the girl is mildly ticklish!

Another great example of professionality is Jeff: he told me that Kilye was not ticklish on ehr feet, so they preferred to not show any fake parton their cip...that's why she is never tickled on her feet (i was thinking that she was too ticklish to do it and she never agreed to do it LOL)

that's why i take him as example when i was talking about to be serious on the job that is done, even if is a matter of tickling videos; because they are anyway a form of "erotic art", and must be respected (cmon, don't tell me the stupid answer that you find tickling vids funny...you simply use them to jerk off your "little buddy" LOL and taht is the main purpose of those clips; otherwise other companies has amazing models that are caressed on tehir feet or underarms and that can be considered "artistic erotic clips", since the main purpose is to stimulate the fantasy isntead of showing what you want to see; some sort of the difference between a great erotic movie and a uncensored porn XXXrated movie 😀).
I would love to see models that doesn't act like the majority of the pornstars; some pornstars enjoy tehir job and experience real orgasms, and tickling vid stars should enjoy to tickle (not necessarily to be tickled since we enjoy it lol), and should be as much as possible honest and genuine with their reaction; and at the same time the companies should stop to record when the girl say "ok, that doesn't tickle at all anymore" and let her rest 😀
Luckily very few companies has "fake models", the other has good models...that's what we want to see 🙂


5) well, i never was objecting the fact that you ahve a good customer service; my sentence was related to teh way that you was talking, taht was very unprofessional even if the guy attacked you violently; honestly i think that the tone should always be as calm and relaxed as possible, becaus enew customers could think that you (and many others) are very unfriendly 😀

I think that you listen to the customers (i think taht i never send you a mail about suggestion of what i would like to see in a clip; anyway many other producers didn't even answered me, and some that did it, never did what i would like to see LOL ), can be sure because i never tried 😛

Anyway i would say that you (and teh other companies interested), could make here (or on TMF or wherever) a nice poll every 3 months/6months/whetever you prefer; to see what people want; what kind of scenario they would like to see, what kind of action they would love to see (i'm still trying to find somebody that would listen to me about the clips with foot tickling/licking and forced orgasms 🙂 TIB did one with nyomi marcela and another blonde girl that was amazing....then nothing more! and even teh blonde girl was never used again for other vids and was never tickled on her feet LOL); this would be a grat feedback to understand what the people want (i could say what the customer want, because the things in this case works in favor of people that gives you money; with a good eye also on taking new potential customers of course) to see in your videos/clips; and can save you to ahve bad critics about a clip taht cost you money and that sell 4 copies in total 🙂 yuou don't want to loose money and we want a good product 🙂

In the end i would say that i respect the work that you guys does, the only critics that i can move are only taht few of you use models taht are not ticklish in teh way that "we" would like to see, and that not always is possible to comunicate with you to express what we feel about a clip/movie/model and what we would like to see 🙂

Before those boards was not commercially related, but now that 80% of the producers own or post regularry on these boards would be great to have also a little bit of consideration from you guys about the feedbacks taht we, users and customers, gave to you 🙂

Thanks for teh costructive discussion, hope to see more people here posting about what they think, using a respectful tone and being polite of course; otherwise tehre is no chance of any kind of discussion 🙂
 
.......So anyway, really good clip Bleu 😀 . Looks like you had a good time there TTD! Thank you for another great clip ^_^ .
 
Nevordan said:
Kimiko, you ever gonna be in a BleuFetish video? 😉

actually, we asked her quite a while ago 😉
but she respectfully declined 🙁
 
Hey bleu, do you have msn messenger at all? And if so, could you send me your addy in a PM please ^_^ .
 
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