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PETA Vs The Jews

XtreamTickler

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I resently heard that som Jewish protesters threw goats blood on Mel Gibson in protest of his movie, "The Passion of The Chriest". First of all, if it's true, this proves that people just can't handle the truth, that the jew's did play a part in the death of Christ. When given a chois between him an another prisoner they chose to releas Barberous. What I want to know, if it did happen, does this mean that PETA is going to protest the Jewish protesters ?
 
... Just who is "Barberous"?

Besides speaking of the "jews" as a whole in condemning Christ is a bit inaccurate.

They had sects and tribes.

They weren't whole as they might appear now; as it seems, some of them turned in Christ to challenge his claim of being king David's heir: they expected a warrior prophet, who would rise to unite all the sects and send roman invasors away.

When he was crucifixed, rebellion was quenched, but it sparkled again a generation later, leading to the Jewish War.

In their history, Jews rebelled more than once, and probably Christ was sacrificed in their attempt at overturning the roman rule.

They needed a political prophet. Christ was none of that.


This doesn't excuse anybody: over 20 centuries have passed. I can't believe ppl have memory THAT long.


Reg's.
 
Kalamos--my respect for you has just skyrocketed...thank you for putting into words what I've been trying to tell people all week...I'm Jewish, and this week, I've been told that I've killed Christ more times than I've been able to blink...oy..thank you...I wasn't there, and I had nothing to do with killing him...my mother would have killed me for doing so, as she would have said, "You finally find a nice, Jewish boy and you go and crucify him!??!?!" sentiments that suggest I had anything to do with the crucifixion are as unfounded as the sentiments blaming current white southerners in the US for slavery and racism. Oy...thank you for having the sense and verbal capacity to break it down for us all...you're a true HUMAN BEING, and I respect you for it...
 
Actually I am a skeletal cyber artist. I cast my mortal coil about 500 posts ago... 😀

Besides, roman soldiers actually put Jesus Nazarenus to death - [Christ was only a title, in greek it meant "the Anointed"].

It was roman imperial authority that needed a scapegoat.
And Christ was just what they needed.

Romans believed they would crush the would-be jewish rebellion by executing their "perceived" leader.

The extreme jewish sects [I don't know the english names, but I can quote italian bibliography] hoped that Jesus would fight when cornered.

Maybe, some of them were quite shocked to see him DIE on the cross!

No thunderclap, no lightning, no divine intervention. He just died there and then.

And they were still subjects to roman rule.

...

Now, are they guilty of "killing" him? Technically no, they just turned him in to "police" as a criminal.

And more important: does it matter, nowadays?
Christians believe Christ returned from death to deliver and forgive.

If Christ can forgive, why can't they?

...

Oh, I've wandered net a bit. Did you know a funny guy cybersquatted peta's domain for a while with his site?

His site was called "People Eating Tasty Animals". Quite a cruel prank...

...

As usual, in medio stat virtus. That is, use common sense, guys!


Reg's!
 
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ok being jewish i dont mind the movie. I understand that its for entertainment value.
 
I'm a long time member and I rarely post, but enjoy the boards. This is my opinion, in which I do not intend to change anyone's viewpoint nor have mine commented on.

Christ was God on Earth, The image of what I live in hopes to become a shred of his greatness. Christ died for our sins and I will be eternally grateful, that is what I will remember and have always remember whether it was years ago, today or 20 centuries later. When I'm finding ways to pass the time in heaven
 
XtreamTickler said:
I resently heard that som Jewish protesters threw goats blood on Mel Gibson in protest of his movie, "The Passion of The Chriest". First of all, if it's true, this proves that people just can't handle the truth, that the jew's did play a part in the death of Christ. When given a chois between him an another prisoner they chose to releas Barberous. What I want to know, if it did happen, does this mean that PETA is going to protest the Jewish protesters ?


Barabus or Barabbas. And who cares about PETA. Barabbas was a criminal who was chosen because the Romans paid people in the crowd to yell out for his release. Twas not all of the Jewish people trying to kill off Christ.
 
Besides, if somebody blames roman empire, now he/she/it could put the blame on italians...

Really guys, do I look like someone who would tie up a MAN on a pole?

Now, yes... a WOMAN would be another matter altogether. 😉

...

Allow me for some ... levity... 😀 😀 😀


Reg's.
 
I think it is Mel Gibson himself that so eloquantly put it, in his Prime Time interview last night.

The human race killed Jesus. We killed him because of our sins; which he so readily died for as was the divine plan.

Technically speaking however, it was the jews that persecuted Jesus, and the romans who sentenced him. Pontius Pilate, dispite his ruthless nature could find no wrong doing in Jesus, and even spoke on his behalf initally. He only sentenced Jesus to appease the crowd and keep them from rioting. He offered them a prisoner of choice for release to further sooth their raging anger.

The farasees and high priests were hypocrites and as I pointed out in another thread (and Kalamos has here) of this nature, Jesus was expected to be a mightly conqueror and a powerful politician, and all for the service of Israel alone. The fact that Jesus came as a vulnerable infant, and in the most humblest of ways, and came for jews, gentiles and every other tribe of the world enraged them and they denounced him.

Furthermore, the jews do not believe in the New Testament or the Gospels, therefore. One of the reasons the jewish people are still fighting the "holy" war is because of a territorial dispute, wherein they claim God gave the land to them. They are still waiting for the Messiah to come the first time, whereas Christians are awaiting the second coming.

You wonder, at least I do, that if the jews had accepted Jesus as God and the Messiah, even after playing a major and leading role in putting him to death (an undeniable fact, as jews admit and acknowledge Jesus DID exist) that the "holy" war which isn't holy at all, wouldn't be happening. You wonder how they might have been transformed and how relations in the region might be better than they are. Many jews were converted upon the sight of the crucified Jesus, as were many roman soldiers; leaving pagonism for Christianity. Longinus is the roman soldier who pierced the side of Jesus with his lance to make sure he was dead. After the veil split in two (which has a symbolic meaning), the thunder started and the earth trembled, I believe it was Longinus who said "Surely this was the Son of God!" Longinus by the way is a confirmed Saint; in catholism anyway. He was so converted by his experience that he went on to do good deeds dispite the roman occupation of Israel.

Most christians and jews that have seen an advanced screening of "The Passion Of The Christ" don't see it as anti-semetic. The movie, as Mel Gibson put it is about the PASSION of Christ. Not his birth, not his resurrection, his PASSION. Simply put, if you can't bare to see the truth as accurately portrayed as humanly possible with the means given us as a race, then you simply shouldn't watch the movie.
 
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Heavy stuff guys! Just thought I'd mention...

I wrestle with my faith by coming here. I feel a bit two faced. Anyone else feel like that?
 
andymac said:
Heavy stuff guys! Just thought I'd mention...

I wrestle with my faith by coming here. I feel a bit two faced. Anyone else feel like that?

Definitely. I feel sometimes that I'm am taking advantage of people and exploiting them to indulge my own selfish desires. The big reason I have no interest in bondage and non-consensual tickling.
 
I think you have "hit the nail on the head" Kalamos. The Jews didn't technically kill Jesus. They did turn him over to the Roman authorities because he broke Jewish law - he committed blasphemy by claiming to be the Messiah/God. He didn't break any Roman laws, although the Romans weren't very fond of him for stirring up the Jewish subjects.

Christ was here to die as the ultimate sacrifice for human sin. Who killed him is not important. The important parts are that he did die and that he was resurected to show us that we need not fear death. If you believe that Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the world then you will be with God forever. Sin and death cannot separate any of us from God if you believe.
 
XtreamTickler said:
I resently heard that som Jewish protesters threw goats blood on Mel Gibson in protest of his movie, "The Passion of The Chriest".

Wow that is incredible :sigh:.
Why people cannot just understand that movies are for entertainement.
There were more serious things filmed - no such reactions.
If someone take things too serious.......a lack of open minding.
There were also movies that shocked christians so ( do not know what they throw on the actors lol ).
I would just like to understand why when jews are depicted in a funny way in films nobody protests - the same applies to christians and so on.
I heard once that sentence : you can laugh of everything but not with everyone.
Damn religion things !!!
 
Can I ask this gibby59 and any other Christians that share the faith? Why are we on here looking at sometimes naked girls being mercilessly tickle tortured. It's a real wrestle of faith for me. Should we really be here? Trouble is, this fetish is so overpowering! (S'pose my avatar gives it away).
 
If the video Clips you see on here Cause you to Lust andy. Then you should not be looking at them.

Lustful thoughts are sinful (Malachi 2:16)
Christians should not give into lust (Colossians 3:5)
Christians should avoid lust (1 Thessalonians 4:3-5)
 
I have to jump in and offer my completely unsolicited opinion.
Whle I believe it is important for "professional" Christians such as monks, nuns, priests, reverends, etc, to live by the book as it were I dont think that every single word of every single rule must be followed to the letter by every single lay person out there. I dont think it makes you a bad Christian or a bad person to simply LIVE. We don't all need to live like the Amish.
That being said...Andy could spend a little time NOT thinking about (or with) "little Andy".
No, Andy, I dont think it's "wrong" for you, I, or anybody else to be here. I've told you numerous times how I feel about your situation so I won't repeat it again. But you've got other people you need to think about. Being open and honest are the keys. Both with your wife and with yourself.
Seriously...Do you want to end up like Toby? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy's dog.
 
andymac said:
Can I ask this gibby59 and any other Christians that share the faith? Why are we on here looking at sometimes naked girls being mercilessly tickle tortured. It's a real wrestle of faith for me. Should we really be here? Trouble is, this fetish is so overpowering! (S'pose my avatar gives it away).

I can't tell you why you're here. I'm here because of my curious nature and desire to see women tickled, but I think I may be leaving here soon. It's taking up too much of my time and becoming too big of a distraction in my life. There are a lot of wonderful people here and I will miss that part.

I would say that if you feel it's becoming a problem to be here (i.e. neglecting family and/or work, etc...) then you shouldn't be here. Yes it is an overpowering fetish and a person could easily become obsessed with it. Read Nessonite's post again. I will pray for you my friend that this fetish doesn't become an obsession that displaces your family and friends in your life.

Take care.
 
After reading what mel gibson's father said about the holocaust. I hope his movie flops! I am not going to repeat them but it was some pretty messed up comments.
 
andymac said:
I wrestle with my faith by coming here. I feel a bit two faced. Anyone else feel like that?

Come on andymac you'll get a win on your faith !! lol
More seriously my conscience does not say : it's bad it's bad 🙂 i do not ask me the question.
I do not feel like as you do andymac - by the way i do not know what your faith is - two faced.
And coming here i more wrestle with my computer than with my faith i even i shall have one.
Sees !
 
As any good Catholic (who paid attention to the nuns in school) knows, Christ willingly went to his death to atone for the sins of ALL mankind. That includes ALL who came before him and ALL who came after. So in a very real sense, I am responsible for the murder of God. And so is everyone else.
 
mmmm...*licks chops*
Animals taste good...
I want a t-shirt that says that.
 
The best thing I have heared about this is thus:

While we may never know exactly what transpired, whether or not us jews (Yes, I am jewish as well as several others who have posted) did kill Jesus, people saying "You killed Jesus" as the first post stated is assinine.

It is like blaming the current Roman Catholic church and Pope for the inquisition. Pope John Paul the II and none (I hope) of the current cardinals had anything to do with that. Just like modern Jews had nothing to do with the death of Jesus, regardless of if historical jews did.
 
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