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PETA Vs The Jews

my mind is always boggled by some of the ridiculously ignorant shit i see on the message board. it's impressive, really; everytime i come here there's some new racist or misogynist thread to kick me in the face.

like, does the anti-semitism in this post make anyone's head explode as violently as it does mine?

"well, the jews did kill jesus." i can't believe you people tolerate stuff like this on your board.

ancil
 
by the way, y'shua of nazareth (romanized as "jesus") was a member of the essene sect of judaism, a sect of subversive and radical jews interested in overthrowing the roman occupation of israel. this discussion of "jesus dying for the sins of all mankind" and "the jews still waiting for their messiah" is ridiculousl and superfluous.

ancil
 
ancil said:
by the way, y'shua of nazareth (romanized as "jesus") was a member of the essene sect of judaism, a sect of subversive and radical jews interested in overthrowing the roman occupation of israel. this discussion of "jesus dying for the sins of all mankind" and "the jews still waiting for their messiah" is ridiculousl and superfluous.

ancil

Jesus was not a memeber of the essene sect and there is no reputable biblical scholar who would agree with that.
 
Well, but he was a jew... He didn't spring into being from nowhere.
 
Kalamos said:
Well, but he was a jew... He didn't spring into being from nowhere.

You knew him so Kalamos ? 🙄
 
Well, no, I wasn't intimate with him. 😉 😉 😉

But since he was son to a couple of jews, they probably had him circoncided as well.

He attented the temple, as a child, so we can assume he was a full fledged jew as anybody else near him.

...

Hey, I am dead, but I don't get to see the boss everyday! 😀 😀 😀
 
jesus converted from judaism to christianity. Probably cause the matza he ate nearly cut his throat, so he wanted to eat white bread that he woudlnt choke to death on..my mom would hang me if she knew i said this.

😀
 
How can a god convert to his own religion?

Wouldn't it be a conflict?


[Just call me heathen... 😀 ]
 
LOL about the Matzo...as a Jew, I have to attest to the fact that not only does that stuff mess up your throat, but it also backs up your lower intestinal tract as well...haven't my people suffered enough without having to be constipated for over a week every year?? 😛 Oy vey...
 
anti-semitic?

Ok, I'll bite. This has been an interesting post so far. A few points to clarify though...


First to Alf....
I have to disagree with the statement that there have been more serious things filmed ( I assume you mean more serious than the death -passion- of Jesus as Savior). please find a movie and list it here. Entertainment value? What is he- a Friday night sitcom that we kick around for laughs? His pain and suffering (very real, very authentic events-even if you do not believe his deity) are hardly "entertainment". For example, I would be very hesistant to call Schindler's List a "very entertaining" time at the movies and write it off as such.

Secondly to AphxA- wishing that gibsons movie flops because of his dad's point of view is precisely like cornering a Jew today and blaming him/her specifically for Christ's death. You are no better than the anti-semites who do that when you would condemn a man for things his father said.While we're at it, let's hope Enrique Igelesias flops as a musician because his dad was a womanizer! I hate those guys! lol- see how ridiculous that is?

Now as far as anti-semitism goes, how can Jews killing a Jew be that racial? I understand that they personally (their religious leaders-Pharisees and Saduccees)didnt crucify him themselves...but cmon...not every man at a lynching tied the victim up themselves either. Would you accept that as a defense? Yet if they were in court they would be "accomplices"...So all this anti-semitic rhetoric is ridiculous. History (Jewish that is, read Josephus if you do not believe me) attests to this fact- that he was drummed up on false charges and subsequently executed.

Now, on to PETA...they really bug me alot. I think they should sue for that goat's blood thingie..or maybe even the Satanists could help us out with that (assuming they idolize goats- i really dont know if they do).Worst case scenario, make the person who did that goat blood thing write a letter to PETA explaining how they had country-fried goat that night or something. I dont know...something. All I do know is that I really dislike people telling me how bad animals are to eat (as I lick the bbq sauce of these tender ribs Im chompin' on)...munch munch..you know?
 
skysharker said:
First to Alf....
I have to disagree with the statement that there have been more serious things filmed ( I assume you mean more serious than the death -passion- of Jesus as Savior). please find a movie and list it here. Entertainment value? What is he- a Friday night sitcom that we kick around for laughs? His pain and suffering (very real, very authentic events-even if you do not believe his deity) are hardly "entertainment". For example, I would be very hesistant to call Schindler's
List a "very entertaining" time at the movies and write it off as such.

Okay there have been more polemical films. But you stayed on the same subject with the Schindler's list and what i mean is another kind of subject depicted than religion.
 
skysharker said:
(Jewish that is, read Josephus if you do not believe me)

You mean Flavius Josephus? Jewish War?

As it seems it should be taken with some care, since he got adopted and became a roman citizen [can't be sure about his full citizenry, though] - and some jews accused him of betraying his people.

As it seems Flavius Josephus was quite disillusioned with his own people and accepted the unavoidable: roman rule.

Those who didn't either fled from ruined Jerusalem or suicided themselves - later - in Masada.


Yet, your point about "accomplicy" is subtle: those who didn't do a thing, effectively hastened his way to execution.

It think the word is omission. Not doing something to help somebody is like directly harming him/her.

I'd like to point out something you said yourself: they did something to a peer. Those were jews [or jewish sect, to be more precise] turning in what they perceived as a traitor.

From their point of view they were right: he was one of them, after all.


Now I'd like to comment more on your point on accomplicity, if you allow me to. 🙂

We can't blame a whole town if some criminals hang a man. Even if wives, mothers and children knew their relatives were out, no judge would find them guilty, unless they actually covered up the wrongdoers.

And as you pointed out, fathers' faults cannot rest on their children. We need to judge and consider the individuals, not a whole country, religion, ethnicity or people.

Can you really say Camel is guilty of anything? 😉

[Sure she is! Let's punish her with tickle-torture!]


Reg's.
 
The problem, SkySharker, is that Mel Gibson himself is a known anti-semite. Abe Foxman, who was on the dateline show concerning Mr. Gibson's film, was not allowed into the initial screening of the film BECAUSE HE IS JEWISH!!! Gibson only allowed Christians into the first screening because he didn't want the initial reviews to be negative...so, naturally he had only supporters come to view it, knowing that Jews would find some fault with it, and cause a media frenzy. Frankly, as a Jew, I'm still taking my time in formulating my opinions about all of this. I think the story of Jesus Christ is timeless, and beautiful, regardless of what your personal beliefs are...the fact that one person could have so much love for humanity that he would die for everyone...well, not to downplay it, but Jesus is certainly ok by me!!! It's just a scary time to be Jewish in this world, and even the slightest spark of antisemetism in the media can cause a HUGE firestorm of antisemetic acts...I know from personal experience...ugh...sorry to ramble...it's something I do well...😉
 
Haaar, you are guilty of whatevering, Camel!

We found you guilty and now you'll be punished!

We'll tie to you to a pole and we'll tickle-torture you for the sake of it!

Fear the iron fist of justice. Fear the velvet glove too, for it will serve a purpose! 🙂


😀 😀 😀
 
Wow...I guess I should ramble more often if that is going to be the consequence!!! 😛
 
Ok camel, i understand your point about the dateline thing..I was not there for his first screening (or any for that matter). I must admit that I doubt that Jews were or were not invited specifically in order to keep from getting negative reviews. Jesus is a taboo subject regardless your faith. Just because Abe wasnt invited does not mean that he was singled out for being a Jew. I hardly think that is a good standpoint. But...you never know...I could be wrong.

Now a second thing is this: I was reading a review of the film by some Jewish somebodies (I dont know if they were religious leaders or scholars)but one gentleman summed it up well. he stated that while he did not see anti-semitism in the film, he saw the potential for it to be used as such by those individuals bent on doing so. Summing up, and in regards to the potential effect this movie could have on attitudes towards Jews, he stated that "we Jews need to understand that not everything is about us". I think that was a wonderful statement.

With all the hoopla about a wall in the middle of "Palestinian" communities in teh Gaza Strip and in the West Bank, terrorism at home and abroad (in terms of Israel), as well as a general consensus in the UN that is definitively anti-Israel, this movie is the least of their (Jewish people) concerns.

I suggest that we all retire on Kalamos' advice and tickle tickle tickle!
 
maybe your right sky!

and i think we can all agree on the subject of tickling 😀


but this who mel should of cast to play jesus

Chad1.jpg
 
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