Question about tickle pornography

[tickleteasing]

Ok as I have mentioned in a different post I am starting an internet tv talk show, I am paying a certain amount monthly to a company to use my software to do the show. In the terms of service it says I am not allowed to promote any pornography or illegal activity. The thing is in my opinion there is a big difference between discussion and promotion. I mean and another thing "Fetishes" I know women hate the word fetish sometimes but I think its the best word for it. There are so many of them, if you have to wipe out everything on tv that could be construed as catoring to a fetish you could not have films. I saw an interview with Taylor Raz and she was talking about balloon fetishes, puffy jackets, and tickling.If you wipe out those three fetishes you can't watch deliverance anymore, or any movie with a birthday party. I have had a conversation with the people who are giving me the software and they say porn is something you only know when you see it. Now the reason this is in the tickling section is if I bring up tickling on the show I want to know a way to do it without crossing the line.

 

[ticklebunny 2]

From what I understand from what you told me. You would not really be crossing the lines-since mentioning tickling is not really pornography. You did say you told the person that sold you the software that you did tend to focus and also talk on adult oriented topics. The person just reassured you it would be ok-just not to show nudity right? I am sure long as you keep it pretty tame and not too blunt-not really pornography. It depends are these shows going to be targeted towards only adult viewers/audience. To make sure I might talk to the person that sold you the software-make sure that mentioning tickling, sex and other adult topics is allowed and not forbidden.

However it sounds like the person and from what you told me-sounds like long as there is no nudity shown and probably maybe censoring on language-not going over boundaries-that things would be fine, just no nudity. Did the person just say nudity not allowed, along w no pornography-? Did that also mean no adult content in the shows either? These are important questions I would research and re-ask again. I hope this helps. I am not really sure what to advise you to do. I have not ever really been into this kind of situation. It could get really complicated. I would strongly advise against the word fetish-only generally saying the word-interest or love for something sounds better than fetish. Fetish beyond introduction of the word or a concept of a fetish sounds negative-has a bad negative connotation. I hope this helps.

Maybe focus on mentioning tickling in a general way not real specific. I mean I don't see the harm as mentioning for many tickling can be a major erotic turn out-I would say just keep it in general and not blunt-keep it not graphic you know that way it is general-I would not go into how tickling can be sexual in detail. That may or could be construed or seen as pornography. I am not saying it is-just in general probably best to generalize and not be sexually explicit and don't be sexually specific. I am not sure-best thing I would say is re-ask these questions and see what the person that sold this software says in response-to you asking if you mentioning tickling or sex-see if be seen or judged to be pornography. But I highly doubt it-I think when they said this to you-meant no nudity, nothing illegal, and probably some censorship on language.

 

[tickleteasing]

I hate to beat a dead horse of a story but if Fred Phelps can protest a funeral and I can't talk tickling there is something wrong

 

[Jericho716]

Take it somewhere you can make a difference then and change the rule/law if it's that big of a deal to you. That place is certainly not here.

In the meantime, follow the rules/laws. Fred Phelps is doing that, even if 99.999% of people disagree with him. If you use my software, and I state in my terms and conditions that it can only be used to broadcast shows about pole-vaulting, then you abide by that or find another software.

 

[tickleteasing]

I should say I have had a discussion with them about using it for podcasting and they said its ok to do so, I also have had discussions with them about the difference between discussion and promotion. What bothers me is I feel like its an invisible line I am being told not to cross.

 

[ticklebunny 2]

I am not sure I would title the thread this-since you are not really focusing not looking to do shows on tickle pornography not promoting it. However I understand why you titled this thread this. More like you want advice on how you can successfully and without offense-talk on not just general topics but also at times adult topics like tickling and sex, dating and stuff like that a wide range of topics. So not sure the title really is what the thread should be called but I get what you are trying to convey.

Once again I say I don't think you are in violation. It is not like you are going to break their rules and regulations. You are not going to show pornography, not going to have nudity on your podcast shows. Your shows are going to be on a variety of topics, maybe some adult oriented. However that does not mean you don't know how to set boundaries and not cross the line. You are very professional you are good at this. I would just be careful-probably avoid profanity, abide by no nudity, no pornography-if you are going to time to time have adult content- keep it general not graphic, not explicit and not specific. Hope this helps.

Can you mention the topic of tickling and other adult topics without the conversation or content from guests and viewers participating getting out of hand? That really is only a question you can answer. I believe you can. You are not so green at this. You are a established and well known internet radio host on blogtalkradio. You can do this-just keep it simple, stay general-keep in control of your shows-along w your co-hosts you are thinking of having on your show-make sure your possible potential co-hosts you wish to work with you-being DT, and Terri know the rules-understand the rules-follow the rules. Do my best to avoid profanity, no nudity, no pornography that is a given, and keep adult topics general not too specific-not saying censor really-just saying make sure you let them know you are in charge of the tone and atmosphere of the shows-what is going to happen-not going to happen. I am sure you will be fine if you do. Make sure you and your co-hosts are on the same page especially with DT-she can be really ornery at times. You should be fine then.

Also with alot of your friends being playmates and models-think I understand where they might think-those that sold you the software-enter into you promoting pornography but it is not and it would not be-just make sure your friends know no nudity, no pornography -just saying make sure since playmates-let them know way ahead of time before the shows ever take place-there are strict regulations and also no promoting pornography-not saying Playboy is pornography-just saying by those that sold you the software it could be seen that way-so maybe no promoting playboy merchandise might be a good idea. I think you get my idea right. I mean no offense just trying to be helpful.

 

[phant0m]

I should say I have had a discussion with them about using it for podcasting and they said its ok to do so, I also have had discussions with them about the difference between discussion and promotion. What bothers me is I feel like its an invisible line I am being told not to cross.

If it still feels like an invisible line than you haven't asked enough questions about what is and isn't allowed. That or you think promoting and discussing pornography are the same thing, at which point there's nothing we can do to help.

 

[ticklebunny 2]

You can talk about sensual and adult topics and you can mention tickling. It just means no showing videos or pictures/magazines of pornographic material. Maybe with your friends I would say they are models not mention the company they are associated with-not mention it being Playboy or Penthouse since it says in your agreement with the software people-no promoting pornography-just make sure not to mention-make sure they don't mention being in Playboy or Penthouse. That might be a good idea-not mentioning they being models of Playboy and Penthouse-since it is considered adult entertainment.

I hope this helps. If you do mention tickling-I would call it a fetish only a few times introducing the topic-then after that just say interest or love/passion for tickling.

It sounds more acceptable and like I said the word fetish has a really bad negative connotation plus it has a sexual connotation-love for it sounds better-not keep calling tickling a fetish. I think calling it a interest, love or passion for tickling-puts a positive spin on it, not be negative.

 

[DianaBanana88]

tickling and porn are two different things entirely lol so i dont think you'd be doin anything wrong by saying the word tickling or even discussing it. Fetish is all but i wouldnt go as far as calling it a type of porno haha

 

[tickleteasing]

Thanks for your answers although I will say that my friends who are playmates argue that playboy is not porn

 

[ticklebunny 2]

That is true but I thought it might be helpful for your friends to not mention being in Playboy or Penthouse-that way it would not get in possibly in trouble-not saying they mentioning being in either Playboy or Penthouse as pornography because it is not-just saying-those that sold you the software may not be so understanding-so might be a good idea-just say they are models not elaborate on them being in Playboy and Penthouse. Just a idea. Hope that helps. I don't really think of it as pornography either-adult entertainment-think more tasteful call it erotica, not porn.

Well hate to do this but I got to get going to deliver the papers. I am really sorry we really did not get much of a chance to chat much tonight. I miss you very much friend. I will talk to you again real soon. Have a good night sweet dreams and sleep well. Like I said long as just discussion not showing sexual pics, pornographic magazines, long as no sexual content of videos or movies being shown on your show-not promoting-not encouraging pornography.

Just talk and discuss on various topics and tickling, some tamer sensual fetishes, nothing too pornographic, nothing too far out there-sensual topics you should be fine. Also show is going to be on wide range of topics-helping others so you should be fine, keep it simple, general, keep control of the shows-you are boss on how it goes-keep it general and you should be more than fine. Hope this helps night friend. Hugs

 

[rhiannon]

tickling and porn are two different things entirely lol so i dont think you'd be doin anything wrong by saying the word tickling or even discussing it. Fetish is all but i wouldnt go as far as calling it a type of porno haha

Tickling clips and porn are NOT two different things. Definitely not.

 

[tickleteasing]

Tickling clips and porn are NOT two different things. Definitely not.

Can you give me your opinions on why? I mean I think porn is porn there is no question what I meant to make as far as the point of my original post is no matter what you do, someone somewhere somehow is going to be turned on. What may be fetish material for someone might as well be an snl skit to someone else. I was talking to laurie(tickleshotel) the other day about the various fetishes and I was telling her that some people have fetishes for balloons well showing a birthday party can be distracting, well she laughed her head off. The thing I am trying to say is if porn is something that turns someone on, then anything can be porn.

 

[tickleteasing]

I do not want anyone to think I am be thinking I am blasting them but I just think these forms of discussion are good for the community because its inevitable the fetish or love of tickling is going to be brought up in the mainstream. What I am going to say is if you show tickle porn to someone who does not have a tickle fetish you might as well be showing them saturday night live. I remember my sisters having a discussion about how Sara Kozer from Joe Millionaire did tickling videos and I cringed hearing about it. The thing is my sister was laughing her head off about it. She might as well have been watching snl.

 

[rhiannon]

The thing I am trying to say is if porn is something that turns someone on, then anything can be porn.

You are right than anything can be a turn-on (hell, I just recently learned that there are people who aren't only turned on by furniture, no, they believe furniture have a personality and feelings!), but the difference is what the material was produced for.

Tickling clips are produced to turn people on, for that reason and nothing else - therefore, IMHO, they qualify as porn.

 

[tickleteasing]

I am not talking about doing something to turn people on I am talking about accidently or not purposely turning someone on. Again there are a lot of fetishes

 

[tickleteasing]

You are right than anything can be a turn-on (hell, I just recently learned that there are people who aren't only turned on by furniture, no, they believe furniture have a personality and feelings!), but the difference is what the material was produced for.

Tickling clips are produced to turn people on, for that reason and nothing else - therefore, IMHO, they qualify as porn.

The problem with that though is how often do we produce or make things that are designed to turn people off I mean its not like people make movies so that people will get up and walk out and say "I am sorry thats a turn off for me". In other words you have to call anything thats meant to turn someone on porn, you really have to call just about anything porn?

 

[rhiannon]

In other words you have to call anything thats meant to turn someone on porn, you really have to call just about anything porn?

Uhm....no! I am talking about "sexually turn someone on". Is there another "turning on" that I am not aware of?

 

[tickleteasing]

Uhm....no! I am talking about "sexually turn someone on". Is there another "turning on" that I am not aware of?

Again not trying to be blasting anyone ok let me elaborate. If I give a playboy magazine to a gay man I might as well be giving him a people magazine. I guess what I am saying is wouldn't a mainstream movie with tickling in it have the same affect as porn with t ickling in it

 

[DianaBanana88]

some people dont even get turned on by tickling lol and they arent even naked all the time so to me thats pretty different as opposed to other vids i've seen where vibrators and all that stuff is used. To some maybe it would be considered porn but i dont see it being that everytime you tickle someone. In some clips the person isnt even tied up let alone naked or turned on

 

[tickleteasing]

also nudity is a rough call too in some countries women have to wear burkas

 

[tickleteasing]

Maybe if I put in a disclaimer that says my show does not promote any illegal activity, nudity or pornography but views open discussion of important topics to be of upmost value.

 

[ticklebear2]

Is Tickling Porn??????

According to Wikipedia porn is anything that has know emotion and is used for a quick sexual satisfaction. To me tickling does not fit into this definition because tickling involves emotion in all form. Tickling involves laughing (happy).

Tickling in fun manner with clothes on is fun and erotic at the same time, but while being erotic does not constitute porn. Even though one or both parties become aroused; tickling in the vanilla world is not classified as a sexual act. This is not to say that some mainstream people do not think of it sexually it is not defined as a sexual act.

I hate to say this, but pornography is classified as anything in books, magazines or videos that have an intense non-emotional reaction to the viewers and participants. So in that manner Play boy, penthouse and any videos created in that manner is porn. I know that some are immediately going to think that I am saying that any one starring or working in this industry is sleasy or trashy, but I have known several people who have worked in this industry and they are a lot sweeter and kinder than the average person. Some of these playmates or pets may have done a shoot to make a little extra money to help put themselves through college.

So in conclusion, I think tickling is not porn and should not be constituted as porn. Tickleteasing, you could discuss how tickling helps to reduce or remove certain health problems as follows: adhd, stress and anxiety.

As for the software people they need to clarify what they mean by pornography, pornography is not defined as you view it. Everyone has their own definition of pornography before it is even viewed. To me playboy and penthouse is not porn.

 

[ticklebear2]

Here is a Possible disclaimer

My show does not include any illegal activity, nudity or pornographic material, but it is open to discussions of the up most importance which could include possible adult material.

 

[tickleteasing]

The thing is though there is discussion and promotion for example say I talk about OJ simpson ok and I talk about the case many years ago. I am not promoting murder, but am discussing it. I would like people to know I am not promoting adult activity but am open to the discussion of it.