Real/Fake? Bothering?

[sasha]

I had that very weird idea I tought I'd mention...

Just to make sure you don't think I'm from another planet: I've only very recently bought my first "own" PC, I mean one that's used only by me (was using my parents old coal-fired pentium2 before I moved out). So it's still new and interesting for me to check out sites I wouldn't usually visit in broad daylight or with a chance of anyone popping in on me. In fact, besides mail I had only ever used the internet for school research and some news.

This forum is, of course, fun and mostly daylight-approved 🙂 But that big thread with all the rack pictures seems kind of right on the line that way. Now anything to do with those heavy stocks or (pillorys or what it's called) and a general "dark-and-creepy-dungeon-feeling" was bound to catch my eye. Don't ask me why, I'm just weird that way. Soooo yesterday night I started following some links in that thread and just googled stuff. Apparently there are tons of pictures and videos of a general reappearing theme called "damsel-in-distress". While having a name for some concept like this seems hilarious in itself, some of that stuff is really fun to look at. Not that I would want to try out everything I saw, but... exciting fantasies anyway.

And, finally beginning to get to my point in all this babbling, very close to that funny stuff on the web there is a lot of nasty stuff as well. I checked that out, too. Don't know why, I blame my dark mood and the bad food I had earlier. Anyway, I came across some video clips of a site called "hogtied", where women in some dungeon were actually being tortured. Didn't get them from the original site though, looks like you have to somehow pay money to download things there, which I certainly wouldn't do. Big plus for the very creepy dungeon and there was some tickling, but some of the other stuff they did was just plain disgusting. However, the last setting of those clips was always a little interview with the girl, after they had a shower and were comfortable again. It was very nice and relaxed and sort of "what did you like most, what scared you the most" and so on. So, it kind of proved that the women had volunteered for that dungeon stuff. I'm still not sure if something like that is actually legal, but it certainly made me feel a little better about having watched the videos.

Surely the whole thing is much less worrysome with tickling. But even here, there is a lot of tying-up involved. Also, it is called tickle"torture" for a reason...
And there, finally, is something like a point: Is it legal to post that sort of media on the internet when it's not obvious that everyone shown is participating of his/her own free will? And even if it is, do you ever bother about it? If you do, how do you know it's just show or if someone is actually suffering? I mean, the best pictures are those where the victim is looking genuinely scared or distressed while being tickletortured on the rack or whatever. Because then the apparent reality makes it easier to imagine myself in a position like that. But what if it really is real distress??

Don't know, maybe I'm just not getting enough sleep... Sorry the post got this long. I should go to bed anyway, gotta be at university tomorrow :dead:

cu
Sasha

 

[LonelyKimiko]

I know the hogtied site you talk of yeah. I do find a lot of the stuff they do on there pretty nasty, but they do occasionally have little tickling bits in them, so I fast forward to them 😀 .

Anyways, in most cases with actual company videos, I believe they have a disclaimer on them at the start of the video, saying that the model is not underage, and is consensual to all that takes place. I know in the hogtied videos they actually say the stuff before hand.

I'm not sure about the legality of filming and posting non consensual stuff. I'd imagine that it would be illegal, but then that question is more in MistressValeries forte.

Anyways, glad you finally got your own computer up and running! It's so great the first time you can go and look at this kinda stuff yourself! I remember the whole "wow, I'm not the only one in the world with this obsession, and there's actually quite a lot of them!".

So, with all that said, happy surfing to you! Let me know in a PM if you want to find anything on the site here or anything like that.

Happy tickles! ^_^ .

 

[sasha]

wow, I'm not the only one in the world with this obsession, and there's actually quite a lot of them!

😀 Right on spot there!

Thanks for the nice reply. I think I'll just stick to the not-so-nasty websites for now. And the tickling stuff here, of course. Sufficient kinkyness there for the time being ;-)

Anyway, nice to know there are other normal, real people interested in that sort of stuff. Even girls 😛 although there seems to be a vast majority of guys around here. I wonder why that is...

cu,
Sasha

 

[Dr. Bill Kobb]

Anyways, glad you finally got your own computer up and running! It's so great the first time you can go and look at this kinda stuff yourself! I remember the whole "wow, I'm not the only one in the world with this obsession, and there's actually quite a lot of them!".

🙂 That was the greatest feeling. Just knowing there were not only others, but it turn's out that there's TENS of thousands of others online, discussing and sharing and creating MORE TICKLING!

And safe, happy browsing to Sasha. Don't fret over Hogtied and some of their sister sites. It's all legit. Scary at times, but over-the-board.

 

[LonelyKimiko]

Anyway, nice to know there are other normal, real people interested in that sort of stuff.

Normal... What little you know of me. Mwahaha 😀 .

 

[FeatherDaemon1]

Welcome aboard Sasha! Nice to make your acquaintance. You are going to find that there is a fetish site out there for everyone. So explore and find out what interests you, much of it is pretty harmless, if just a little wierd. Concerning Hogtied, I wouldn't worry about the people going through the treatment there. Some people just like being subjected to the whim of another. They understand going into it that until the end of the session, they've pretty much signed off on whatever happens. And as Kimiko pointed out there usually is a disclaimer.

We're glad to have you here in our little slice of Heaven. Believe it or not most of us here are pretty normal. We either go to school or work, have families, go grocery shopping, just like normal people. Heck, we's just folks. We just very well enjoy to tickle or being tickled.

Concerning your question, I do agree that the reality of the image certainly adds to effect. I would say in 99.99% of the images you find here the tickling is purely-consensual. I'm sure that Mistress Val would yank anything that wasn't. So you can rest assured there. However the percentage of faked laughter to real laughter is more tenuous. Sadly many producers choose models based on looks rather than actual ticklishness. Oh they'll swear up and down that the model is, but you can see a fake when its plainly evident. However, once you find a real nice image, clip, drawing or story you can really place yourself into it as the ticklee or tickler (lees and lers - for short). We do have some very talented resident artists here so finding those gems is more often than not.