Recovering NON CONS...

[jj82277]

Hey... i just wanted to ask a question. I read a lot of stories here about non-consensual tickling. I want to hear from some of the lers here who fantasize about the REALLY intense tickle torture.

I have a smile addiction. even when i watch conventional bdsm, there is an addiction that i have to that little smile on the face of a true masochist that signifies that there is nothing more that they love in the world than being subjected to abject cruelty. At the same time, i know that there are a lot of people who DON'T necesarily have that addiction. there are those who can really internalize and eroticize real SUFFERING on the part of their lee or sub. I just want to know for those few what its like to have to exist in the REAL WORLD so to speak. I always find it really intriguing the level of response that those stories get and i always wondered what its like for true NON CON FANS to have those fantasies and exist in the mainstream. thank you for your time and have a great day.

JJ.

 

[girlboundforfun]

I have those fantasies all the time. I really mean all the time. My first experiences where non con. I thought it was the worst hell then. It was insane and I screamed and laughed all through it. Now, I seek it. Maybe it is a way to deal with the past and maybe, I secretly learned to enjoy it.

How do I deal with it in the real world? Well, coming here helps...especially during those times when I cannot be around my lers. Unfortunately, there are not NEARLY ENOUGH non con stories that deal mostly with the upper body and many are not nearly torturous enough.

It would be nice to be around my lers all the time.

 

[jj82277]

I have those fantasies all the time. I really mean all the time. My first experiences where non con. I thought it was the worst hell then. It was insane and I screamed and laughed all through it. Now, I seek it. Maybe it is a way to deal with the past and maybe, I secretly learned to enjoy it.

How do I deal with it in the real world? Well, coming here helps...especially during those times when I cannot be around my lers. Unfortunately, there are not NEARLY ENOUGH non con stories that deal mostly with the upper body and many are not nearly torturous enough.

It would be nice to be around my lers all the time.

wow... as a LEE how do you process the sensationof intense non con tickle torture. one of the most interesting things that i have always found about non con stories is the strong contingent of female less that just flat out cannot get enough of them. and i do think it is a way of dealing with the past.

how many lers do you have???

 

[girlboundforfun]

It is a way of dealing with the past. I have a couple of people who I see when our schedules permit. Everytime I submit to them I have to psych myself up even as I raise my arms. They each know the verbally taunt me as they bind me. Oftentimes during the torutre, I swear to myself that I will never do it again. Never allow it and submit to it again. But I end up craving it and I always find myself 'under the feather' again. I will call them and they will even taunt me on the phone. I get chills when they do that.

 

[venray]

I am a little confused though. Isnt the fact that you see these people on a regular basis, and "submit" to being tied make it a consentual scene and not a non-con one?

True non-con would be if you had no idea it was going to happen and certainly did not give yourself up willingly......

I personally could not participate as a ler or lee in a situation where both parties were not consting adults.....

 

[girlboundforfun]

Good point and I thought about that after I hit send. In the role playing, it is no con and at some point, it does become that for me, because they don't let me go and they don't stop tickling. It is a strange arrangment because it is pre-arranged and I do submit to it, but it is torture for me and I do want to get out of it when it happens.

I know, it is weird. I have spent too many years denying it and too long trying to explain it. I used to think that I was the sickest person in the world too. I hope that no one here thinks that I am just some sicko too.

 

[venray]

Not weird at all hon...i am just trying to understand what you go through each time you play like this....

but I am certainly not judging in any way nor do I think you are in any way strange for continuing the play...🙂

 

[jj82277]

I am a little confused though. Isnt the fact that you see these people on a regular basis, and "submit" to being tied make it a consentual scene and not a non-con one?

YOU WOULD THINK SO WOULDN'T YOU...
True non-con would be if you had no idea it was going to happen and certainly did not give yourself up willingly......

I personally could not participate as a ler or lee in a situation where both parties were not consting adults.....

i know what you are talking about venray. the point of the thread was about RECOVERING NON CONS. by that i mean people with non con fantasies who have to express those in the real world through scenes with familiar people that enjoy the same LEVEL of play.

 

[jj82277]

Good point and I thought about that after I hit send. In the role playing, it is no con and at some point, it does become that for me, because they don't let me go and they don't stop tickling. It is a strange arrangment because it is pre-arranged and I do submit to it, but it is torture for me and I do want to get out of it when it happens.

I know, it is weird. I have spent too many years denying it and too long trying to explain it. I used to think that I was the sickest person in the world too. I hope that no one here thinks that I am just some sicko too.

no... you are not sick. you are just a unique reflection of our little world. thank you so much for sharing.

and your expression of non con throguh arranged scense is EXACTLY the kind of response i was looking for and from the lee perspective no less. thanks again.

 

[girlboundforfun]

Thanks for saying that. I guess that this was my way of taking control over what has happened to me and taking control of the fear by facing it head-on. I used to be terrified of being tickled. It used to be absolute torture for me. To some extent, both things are still true, but it also has become an obsession. I hate it, but I have to have it. Totally weird, I know. I don't fight this anymore, I just submit to it. Believe me, it is cheaper and more effective than therapy.

 

[jj82277]

Thanks for saying that. I guess that this was my way of taking control over what has happened to me and taking control of the fear by facing it head-on. I used to be terrified of being tickled. It used to be absolute torture for me. To some extent, both things are still true, but it also has become an obsession. I hate it, but I have to have it. Totally weird, I know. I don't fight this anymore, I just submit to it. Believe me, it is cheaper and more effective than therapy.

This is a very interesting take and one that is far more common than you would realize from my travels. It is something that i have devoted a lot of time to studying and thank you so much for your input.

and oh by the way. as for there not being enough truly torturous NON CON tickling stories... I hope that I helpled a little with this... (Shameless I know!)

 

[3xPIN]

If she is not into it (at least, lets say, 20%) I can't get into it.

 

[Francie_Pants]

I'm a life long lover of the idea of non-consensual tickling. I can't say that I would ever want to find myself in a position where non-consensual tickling was an option for someone who had abducted me, tricked me, or whatever, because of the fact that if tickling is an option, so are so many other things that could be painful or pschological destructive, but I can say, that if I was in the situation, and tickling was indeed the choice, over brutality, or rape, or some other form of torture, I can't help but think that somewhere, deep inside of me, I would be aroused, if only when looking back on it, afterward.

 

[knight]

Thanks for saying that. I guess that this was my way of taking control over what has happened to me and taking control of the fear by facing it head-on. I used to be terrified of being tickled. It used to be absolute torture for me. To some extent, both things are still true, but it also has become an obsession. I hate it, but I have to have it. Totally weird, I know. I don't fight this anymore, I just submit to it. Believe me, it is cheaper and more effective than therapy.

This attitude kind of reminds me of recovering alcoholics who work in bars. By putting themselves in control of the source of their addiction, they find a way to deal with the addiction. Similar case for you; you've found a way to put yourself in control of your feelings about bing tickled. That doesn't sound sick at all. That sounds responsible. And if it works, more power to you!

 

[Obelon]

Well for me it is something part of me would love to have happen but also part of me is scared if I was to be tickled non consensual.

In regards to media I do tend to enjoy most non consensual stories and tend to picture myself in the role of the lee. I also don't mind scripted non-con video's again I know that by their nature they aren't true non-con. I don't think that true non-con would be my cup of tea. While I love the idea of the subject it is something in which I don't think another person should be harmed for it to occur.

While I am mostly a lee and would love for me to get trussed up and tickled beyond my limits without my permission as a Ler my lee would have to very much be a willing participant I am afraid to say.

 

[girlboundforfun]

This attitude kind of reminds me of recovering alcoholics who work in bars. By putting themselves in control of the source of their addiction, they find a way to deal with the addiction. Similar case for you; you've found a way to put yourself in control of your feelings about bing tickled. That doesn't sound sick at all. That sounds responsible. And if it works, more power to you!

Yes! That is it exactly! Thank you for this response.

 

[knight]

Well for me it is something part of me would love to have happen but also part of me is scared if I was to be tickled non consensual.

In regards to media I do tend to enjoy most non consensual stories and tend to picture myself in the role of the lee. I also don't mind scripted non-con video's again I know that by their nature they aren't true non-con. I don't think that true non-con would be my cup of tea. While I love the idea of the subject it is something in which I don't think another person should be harmed for it to occur.

While I am mostly a lee and would love for me to get trussed up and tickled beyond my limits without my permission as a Ler my lee would have to very much be a willing participant I am afraid to say.

I think there's the kernel in every non-con story, at least. Or scripted non-con video. First of all, it's fiction; it's fantasy. No 'lees were harmed in the making of this motion picture, if you will. And I think the unspoken idea in any non-con fiction is that ultimatley, the 'lee enjoys the experience. Often to the point of intense arousal. There's the requisite pleading and begging, but there's a secret part that likes the experience, enjoys it, and craves more. I've written a fw stories with a decided non-con leaning to the tickling situatins, but in every instance the 'lee actually gets turned on by the experience. It's the ultimate sado-masochistic situation. After all, what better torture than the kind you can't stand, but you don't really want to stop?

 

[njdondude]

Yes and for the lee they hit a point of euphoria, almost addicted to the feelingand thinking about it all the time.