something that bugs me

[Celtic_Emperor]

And my 2 cents (added to your $4.85)...American cartoons that attempt to mimick anime style have been nothing short of crap. Think Teen Titans and Totally Spies. Seriously...I know they're just kiddie shows but they're even bad at being that.

And thats exactly the type of thought pattern that makes even america think that it's own artists are not capable of anime to the level of quality as japanese animation as we know it.

Thats a deterent to try and get people like me to not even try at all, and people take us less seriously for it. They tend to make preconcieved notions like that.

Those shows do suck because they werent drawn to be anime and that wasn't the objective.

America needs to believe that it's artists can do it just as good as the japanese. Come on people, haven't you been to deviantart or sheezyart or any serious art forum and have seen some of the talent? Some of these people truely have a gift (and some are really young, as young as 14) and could go pro right now if they wanted to and they'd put the bulk of the japanese artists to shame.

Everytime I see a japanese draw an anime character, theres always something redundant about it. But every time I see an american (particularly white females are on the rise) draw an anime character, theres something fresh and new about it and it's taken in a whole new light and perspective. We're doing wonders with anime.

We've got the goods, its just about forming companies and hiring people and creating stability and specific company profiles. Not using existing companies to peddle around crappy off-shoots, mini-series, and remakes.

Alot of young artists are going to college for an arts major SPECIFICALLY so they can get into this business. It seems naive, and maybe it is, because they end up fresh out of college with no where to go and no actual companies that specialize in this sort of art. They've built up a goal that they will not be able to realize unless theres structure for it to begin with.

We have the means to do this. We need to take control and stop simply working anime, but actually creating it. We have that right.

I'm tired of just seeing americans or whomever, other than japanese, drawing anime just as a hobby. So many have a wonderful gift and its not getting them anywhere, when, if given the opportunity, they could soar with no limit.

 

[nessonite1]

No...couldn't happen. The things that make anime unique is the culture that it comes from. You may find artists capable of recreating the Japanese style of ART but not the Japanese style of THOUGHT. And why would anyone want to? I just don't see a point in taking anime from the japanese, meat based deserts from the British, or crocodile wrestling from the Australians.
It would be taking ages of succesful American cartooning and turning it into a clone of something else. I don't see a point to it...and I think it's a pretty weak idea to begin with.

America needs to believe that it's artists can do it just as good as the japanese. Come on people, haven't you been to deviantart or sheezyart or any serious art forum and have seen some of the talent?

American artists are not incompetant hacks. Japanese artists are no better than ours and I don't know of anyone else who has ever made a statement like that. Anime is not the be-all end-all of artistic persuit. The idea that anime artists are somehow more talented than American animators is rediculous.
This whole argument is rediculous.

 

[nessonite1]

Alot of young artists are going to college for an arts major SPECIFICALLY so they can get into this business. It seems naive, and maybe it is, because they end up fresh out of college with no where to go and no actual companies that specialize in this sort of art. They've built up a goal that they will not be able to realize unless theres structure for it to begin with.

We have the means to do this. We need to take control and stop simply working anime, but actually creating it. We have that right.

Furthermore, you can't possibly expect an entire country to shift it's form of animated entertainment based on the current fascination with Japanese art and culture. If students are studying something they need to look ahead to the actual possibility of entering their chosen feild before starting school rather than companies shifting their goals to accomidate them.
And again....Why? What would be the point in altering the American style to clone the Japanese? I'll say once again that the premise of this descussion is inherently flawed.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Those are easy answers to come up with, as they seem obvious. But as I was trying to get across to Kalamos, it can be much more than just about the art as well. Don't you think I know that?

It doesn't take a japanese man or woman to appriciate the art to recreate it or continue it. Everything builds off of something else. Creative genius is creative genius.

The creators of many of these animes didn't necessarily have to be japanese in order for them to have the significance that they do. What nationality they are has very little to do with it actually.

I think the value of what can be done through recreation and continuation is being undersold here.

I also didn't suggest we replace our animation with that of japanese animation. That would be a mistake. But there should be something else to do for those that want to. People should be able to create whatever they want, whether its an existing genre or not. Its simply the medium through which its all being done.

Come on, alot of anime isn't as deep as we all (including myself at times) says it is, with exceptions. Alot of it is purely the build-up of fan interpretation and zealotry.

I wasn't also saying that we are incompetant hacks. I've actually been saying that we're just as good as they are, if not capable of more to the same degree or more, because of our diversity, manpower, and money as a nation.

The last two sentences of your post lead me to believe that you've totally misunderstood what I've said. I made it clear for THOSE THAT WANT to pursue anime specifically that it should be available as a career option. I never even said they were more talented than we are, but its always implied somehow when comparing what americans can do simply because no one has ever seen the sight of an american made anime series.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. It can happen. It just needs to be organized. The whole theory that we wouldn't be able to carry over the interpretation well enough, that the spiritual meanings would not be there, blah blah blah is just a smokescreen.

I'm sure producers and creators here are smart enough and study and can instill these types of values into their creations, just as much as I can whenever I draw a picture.

This is not ridiculous because the matter revolves around a career choice which is perfectly viable but is non-existant.

Suggesting it could or should become existant is not ridiculous either.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Furthermore, you can't possibly expect an entire country to shift it's form of animated entertainment based on the current fascination with Japanese art and culture. If students are studying something they need to look ahead to the actual possibility of entering their chosen feild before starting school rather than companies shifting their goals to accomidate them.
And again....Why? What would be the point in altering the American style to clone the Japanese? I'll say once again that the premise of this descussion is inherently flawed.

Read. You're either not paying attention or are coming to your own conclusions of what you thought I said or meant.

I never implied ANY of what you just said and I didn't give you any reason to go there or think that. Sure, I'm an anime fan, so some of my opinion is bias, but I'm not being unreasonable.

If a proposed american wanted to make a company that specializes in series which have japanese animation themes or styles, more power to them, and we shouldn't bring them down or get in their way. Thats artistic freedom and provides a future for those hundreds of thousands around the world that truely want this. Anime is anime, anyone is capable of creating it whether it has japanese influence to it or not, and alot of japanese series don't these days, further proof that theres division and a wish for anime to become something more than what it was originally concieved to be. Its not about the japanese anymore. Its about life, its about the supernatural. Its about aliens and the future, demons and warriors. Many cultures believe in these types of things and have a rich history and something to add, not take away. Are they any less capable as artists and creators? No.

Its just a fimilar style of preference, telling a different story, a story that has no ethnicity to it really or clings to a particular system.

Perfect example- Cowboy Bebop

An american could have made that show and it would have been just as successful. Being japanese or living the japanese life had no bearing on this series at all. An american could have come up with this quality script, anyone with a vivid imagination and a dream to see this in animation could have come up with this, any sci-fi fan could have come up with this.

This is just one example. Love Hina is another. Its not about the japanese really, its about love. Thats a universal theme.

Sure, there was this japanese mystique to it, but if it was taking place in say...Ireland or some other magical place thats surreal the way Hinata Hotsprings is, then it would have been just as well, including whether or not the characters were japanese or just some of them were.

Another example-

Record of Lodoss War, a fantasy/action adventure. All of these things in this one are basically european lores and mythology. Americans, who originate from the europeas, and who are educated in history would have been able to pull this one off. Being japanese had nothing to do with it.

It was all style and way of drawing, it was the theme that spoke, not the ethnicity and the qualities or nuances therein. That had no baring on the fact that this was a fantasy novel that would have been just as good had it been created by someone else.

If the japanese won't create branches of their companies in america for americans and non-japanese to work in, then this is the only other option available, and I honestly don't think thats its crazy. You do what you have to do when others are not working with you.

Look what George Lucas did. 20th Century Fox laughed at him and wouldn't fund him initially. He was scorned and ridiculed for working out of the box. What did he do? He made Lucasfilm ltd. and Industrial Lights & Magic, THX, etc.

And what did these companies do? They gave people who would otherwise not have a real shot or chance, a chance. Alot of people grew up with these companies and learned from them. If Lucas hadn't done that, he wouldn't have such a personalized empire today filled with staff that truely understand him and his vision and are capable of putting what he thinks and fantasizes on paper, computer, metal, clay, and everything else they use to work their magic and turn a fantasy into a reality.

Finally, while the subject is not ridiculous, where this is going is. I think we should drop it and talk about something else. I've provided openings to different people to talk about their frustrations but no one took them, even when I invited them. People seem content to make one-liner/spam comments that don't have to do with anything. No one is taking advantage of this thread except me, Kalamos, HDS, and a couple others. A shame.

 

[CellarDweller]

LOL, it doesn't have to be so involved as it has been for you cellardweller.

I'm sure theres something that bugs you, right? Don't be shy.

Ok, what bugs me???

When people can't speak English, but think they are, and make themselves look like morons!

I'm not talking about foreigners. English is a difficult language to learn.

I'm talking about people who will say stupid things like....

Him and me are gonna have to CONVERSATE.

There is no such word as conversate. It's converse. When you CONVERSE, you are having a CONVERSATION.

Also, people who have to "axe" me "sumtin".....geez. It's ASK me SOMETHING.

I will admit I say "gonna" or "wanna", but those other things just grate my nerves.

So tell me, when are you gonna axe me sumtin? When we conversate?

Geez! Pay attention in English class!!!!!!!!!!!!! :weird:

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Ah, you mean things like ebonics right?

Yeah, that irritates me sometimes too. Its as if they want to sound stupid or ignorant on purpose, because you know they know what they're saying isn't proper, intellegent english. But thats just it though, my friend, they THINK by doing that they're being funny.

I see people do it here often, and on the TMF and other places I go. And in cases like that where they are self-respecting people who are just throwing a quick joke out its fine I think.

I'm talking about people who get so hung up on talking this way because they think it's cool that eventually it becomes it's own language, like ebonics. Its foolishness. I wouldn't blame a hick or hillybilly for speaking this way and trying to make the most of the vocabulary they have, but people in public schools, in most places, should be able to talk like the rest of us.

They don't because they want to be different or cool, or a "rebel", so they do this. What they fail to realize is they look stupid and sound stupid when doing this, and its actually working against what the facade they are trying to build up. On the other hand however, what we often fail to realize is that they simply don't care what others think alot of the time. Sometimes a drunk won't know he's a drunk until someone video tapes him while he's on a drunken stupor and then show him the video while he's sober. In a less severe way, its too bad we don't do this for people that speak ebonics and make heavy use of slang to an unnecessary level, breaking down the english language to something that is barely understandable.

They think its cool, its just tomfoolery, says I. If they want to be taken seriously, they've got to cut the crap lest they be turned down whenever they go in for a job interview. Theres just a point where you have to be professional, sometimes all the time.

Finally, this isn't to be confused with being silly. Thats fine. But when it's become force of habit and is done to mascarade as something you are not, then I think its just stupid and embarassing to be around.

 

[nessonite1]

Ah yes...something that bugs me. Waitresses (and waiters) in restaurants who not only have no children but have never seen, been around, or heard of small children. Those who set the children's menu out and neglect to remove the sharp knives from the place setting...who place extremely hot plates where the small child can touch them without so much as a warning that it's hot...who bring the child's drink in a cup made of glass. Waitresses who obviously have kids of their own and who know how to make the table kid-friendly get a rather big tip from me. 😛 Bonus point if they bring kiddie's food out first so she's not sitting around restless and waiting for the rest of it.
Can anyone here please remind me what a dinner for TWO is like?

 

[alchemy1]

They think its cool, its just tomfoolery, says I.

YES! Tomfoolery is coming back! (I love that word). I hear ya Drac, ebonics is the single most irritating thing to happen to the english language since they put "yawl" in the dictionary. (I was born in and have lived in Texas for nearly 26 years and have never once had the urge to use this ridiculous word).

And speaking of parents and children, I absolutely abhor it when it parents, when they are in the middle of a cash transaction, hand the money to their young child and say something to the effect "Ok honey, now give the money to the nice man." Of course, that never happens. The child realizing that it has money in its hands closes it's fist around it and hangs on for dear life while giving the cashier the "deer in the headlights" look. Naturally, the irritating parent then proceeds to verbally prod the resistant child with statements such as "Now don't act that way", "Come on now, behave yourself" or my personal favorite "Mommy will buy (insert toy/treat here) for you if you do as she says". When the perplexingly stupid parent finally realizes that their bratty little larve is not going to behave themselves and relinquish the given money, they then proceed to reach down and attempt to physically force the child to hand it to the waiting cashier. Of course, the child scampers off, to which the increasingly embarrassed looking parent gives chase. The cashier, having been nixed from the equation, is left to do nothing but: observe the pursuit of mother after rogue child, try and hide massive amounts of irritation and profanities through somewhat pained looking clenched smiles, and ponder as to whether this situation could be utilized in the future when the subject of pay raises presents itself. When the money is finally wrested from the child and handed to the cashier, at least 10 minutes has eclipsed, a line of impatient people has formed, the child is now upset and is letting everyone know it in the most shrill way possible, and the parent (having learned nothing from this experience) is grinning like an idiot and still spewing out promises of treats to try and calm the rather upset child.
Have I mentioned how much I hate customer service jobs by the way? 🙄

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

You said it alchemy.

Another peeve that can be really trying to see and have to deal with because of other people thats quite similar to the one you (and Ness) discribed is when parents don't watch their children in stores and let them run around, touch everything, and persist in such a way that it becomes a nuisance to everyone.

These irresponsible parents let their kids do whatever the hell they want, then they yell at them or bark orders as if they are surprized their children are acting this way. This is bad parenting.

First off, you're confusing your child by doing this. You're giving them a conflicting messege that they don't understand. Second, you're not really resolving the situation, and lastly, perhaps more importantly, you are not setting a good example for them.

These parents don't put their kids in the shopping cart seats, they let them run all over the store and literally get lost, thereby putting their children in potential danger, and they don't do enough to resolve the situations.

What their children think of them is more important than their children's safety and upbringing.

Truth be told, the children are playing the parents like a fiddle, and they're getting away with it and the parents are allowing this to happen because they are seeking so much approval from these imps. The children know what they are doing, and the stupidest thing a parent could do is give the child even more power and influence over them by giving them what they want, whenever they want.

Part of raising a good child who is self-confident, happy, loves you, and is responsible all at the same time is in rewarding them for doing good things and completing set goals and requests for you, and showing dissappointment and the taking away some priveledges when they fail to obey you. But even in failure there need to be a support structure that doesn't break down the child's self-esteem, but leaves it with something it will want to improve upon because of the values that are already there. A good child will understand and try harder next time, even if they fail again. Children are children and should be given the benefit of the doubt when they are being raised right.

If a child is praised for doing a good job, they'll feel great and will learn the value of good work early on. If a child fails, theres support for the child to fall back on, and that frustration won't be there.

I know its easier said than done, but even basic priniciples like this are lacking in so many households that it spills (as in your example) into public life and scenes and episodes which are humiliating for the parent, but part of their learning as well. If they continue to repeat these types of incidents, then they aren't learning anything or doing good by their children or teaching/disciplining them responsibly.

And in cases like this, they deserve to look foolish and feel humiliated, because they are failing their children and deserve most, if not all of the blame for it.

 

[nessonite1]

And speaking of parents and children, I absolutely abhor it when it parents, when they are in the middle of a cash transaction, hand the money to their young child and say something to the effect "Ok honey, now give the money to the nice man." Of course, that never happens.

Being the parent of a VERY well mannaered child I hate to say it but this never happens to me. I frequently let my daughter (4 years this summer) pay for her own purchases. Sometimes it takes a few seconds longer as she has to reach pretty far to give the money but the people behind us, rather than getting annoyed, are usually quite happy to see a three year old who behaves and says "Thank you". Not to say I ALWAYS let her do it...but when she's in a good mood and won't lose interest before the transaction is over.

And in cases like this, they deserve to look foolish and feel humiliated, because they are failing their children and deserve most, if not all of the blame for it.

While this is generally true it is also important to note that even good kids (and good parents) have bad days. As I said above my daughter is extremely polite and listens well but if you catch her on a bad day you'd think she was the world's most unholy brat. 😛 All kids go through days (or weeks or months) where they just can't cope with their own ever changing world. It's a lot of "two steps forward, one step back". When they're learning to crawl or walk they tend to stop sleeping well at night. My daughter, even though she's just 3, is learning to read and still trying to get used to being a "kid" ad not a "baby". In exchange she seems to have forgotten that she needs to get to the bathroom in time and has also begun to have occasional melt downs and tantrums when we expect her to listen to the limits we set. It's all a matter of finding their own place in the world and establishing some independence. So my long winded (and possibly too defensive) point is that it's not always the parents that are to blame when kids misbehave. Now when you hear something like "Junior please please don't run off and I'll get you a new toy" then you can disregard everything Ive said. 😀

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Those are all natural things, and part of life. No one expects things to not happen, but generally theres a better way to handle them when they do. Its always the part of the responsible parent to discern when their children are making honest mistakes that they can learn from and the parent can use as a teaching tool for future reference, and between a child doing it on purpose, and not in that innocent way, but in that way the parents provide irresponsibly. Theres a difference.

Him and I (alchemy and I that is) were refering to children who know what they are doing and manipulate their parents to these extremes and the parents allow it.

I agree, you are being too defensive, because its not necessary. You're clearly in a better position as a parent and have started your daughter off right that its not a problem, and you're to be commended for it.

 

[-Kunoke-]

Ok, what bugs me???

When people can't speak English, but think they are, and make themselves look like morons!

I'm not talking about foreigners. English is a difficult language to learn.

I'm talking about people who will say stupid things like....

Him and me are gonna have to CONVERSATE.

There is no such word as conversate. It's converse. When you CONVERSE, you are having a CONVERSATION.

Also, people who have to "axe" me "sumtin".....geez. It's ASK me SOMETHING.

I will admit I say "gonna" or "wanna", but those other things just grate my nerves.

So tell me, when are you gonna axe me sumtin? When we conversate?

Geez! Pay attention in English class!!!!!!!!!!!!! :weird:

Yeah, that bugs me too. Like, one of my friends was talking to me on MSN, and I was making fun of 1337. He was acting like he was very intellegent, using tons of big words, and he put up a nice act. Then, he spelled sarcasm s-a-r-c-h-a-s-a-m (sarchasam). I corrected him, then he went into a big argument about how I can't spell and he even dared me to look it up in the dictionary. :weird:

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Another pet peeve (one I hope won't lead to discrimination or racist remarks but I trust we can act and respond maturely)-

White people (or anyone really) that act ghetto to look cool, with the chains, and the pant leg up and the doo-rag, etc. This goes hand-in-hand with the previously mentioned peeve of ebonics and personalized, degenerated speech that some of us talked about.

Its all a package which includes but is not limited to the person assuming the role of something they are clearly not in attempt to gain favor and attention.

These people are pathetic, no matter what gender or ethnicity they are. I'm sorry if you are one of them (as its a growing problem in pop culture), but this is a peeve, and I know I'm not the only one, I can't be.

What ever happened to self-confidence, believing in the type of person you are, and being proud of that and happy? These people either clearly lack a postive ego, or are so manipulated by urban pop culture that they are the highly suggestable type. I think its both, actually.

Because why would you honestly, in your better mind, want to act this way? You're not building up, you're building down.

Its not an UPgrade, its a DOWNgrade, and why would you want that? Its stupid, its foolish, and you're only making people suffer the sights and sounds of you.

 

[nessonite1]

That's a big peeve of mine as well...rish kids who wish they were poor. I guess it's supposed to make sense but I just don't see it. Maybe having grown up really poor myself I don't really see the attraction.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Indeed.

No matter what your station in life, you can act however you want, you are only as much of a victim of your surroundings and the lifestyle of others as you allow yourself to be. Positive thinking and self-betterment are somehow underated and underestimated in this day and age.

People have abandoned themselves to the slums of the urban lifestyle, and many of this nation's problems and strain on the system (welfare etc.) start here. Not because of the location necessarily, but more and more about the mentality of the people living in it.

There was this show, the PJs, produced by Eddie Murphy, who also was the voice of the main character. It was a clay-mation cartoon that originally aired on FOX but then was later switched around as the show's rating dwindled. Anyway, its the black version of King of the Hill, which, whether it was intended or not is a slap to the urban black person living in the ghetto.

Heres a quote from Mrs. Avery, an elderly black woman who lives in the projects-

"I don't need no help from nobody!

Just give me medicaid, welfare, food stamps and social security and I'll be fine with no help from NO BODY!"

I laugh almost every time I remember seeing that. NO F*CKING SHIT! YOU SURE AS HELL WON'T BE NEEDING ANY HELP IF YOU'RE SET LIKE THAT! LOL!

Sigh, as funny as that is however, its sad, as its a reflection of how things often times are. When people abandon themselves to this type of lifestyle they are dooming those to follow them to the same.

Only people who want to be different are, only people who realise their true potential and believe make it through. Putting a rag around your head, wearing fake gold you can't afford, and talking like a stupid fool isn't going to get you anywhere.

And this is regardless of where you live, which makes this a wide-spread problem of idoicy.

 

[MistressValerie1]

I am so happy that I don't have kids 🙂

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Lets see...something else...

Car chases on the news. Really, do we need to follow a car pursuit for the duration and waste valuable time talking hearing about "so what strategies do you think the police will employ to stop this assailant?" We already know the possibilities, do we really need to rehash it all? Its as if they act like this is the first car chase ever. And they'll put crap like this first before more important things. I want the weather report or world news, not a minute to minute watch of some stupid asswipe driving a car in a vain attempt to get away from the police. Why do we even give these people those "15 minutes of fame"? Really, are they worth it? And just imagine how many people may do these things simply for that air time. Its encouraging them more than anything.

Finally, we know the end result. They're going to get caught. Theres a 98.2% assurance of that. So can't they just tell us what happened after the fact? If crap like this is considered breaking news, then the media industry needs to stop dragging it's ass. Nobody honestly wants to see this crap unless they're bored. And even then, there are better things to watch.

 

[nessonite1]

Why do we even give these people those "15 minutes of fame"? Really, are they worth it?

LOL and yet they don't show the streakers at a sporting event. I don't think it's fame motivating them though...Im sure the fear of being in jail for 10 years is a slight motivation as well. 😀

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Well, thats just common sense. No one wants to get caught, but the news stations don't need to follow these things and focus the news on that, when its better to just move on to something else and then tell us what happened. When have any of these people been famous or worth a moment of our time? If it was like....Michael Jackson driving/breaking through the gates of Neverland Ranch because they've come to arrest him and he makes a getaway and theres visibly a child or two in the backseat that are shaking and frightened, thats something different.

EDIT: Besides, they should have thought about that before they commited the crime.

 

[alchemy1]

Well, thats just common sense. No one wants to get caught, but the news stations don't need to follow these things and focus the news on that, when its better to just move on to something else and then tell us what happened. When have any of these people been famous or worth a moment of our time? If it was like....Michael Jackson driving/breaking through the gates of Neverland Ranch because they've come to arrest him and he makes a getaway and theres visibly a child or two in the backseat that are shaking and frightened, thats something different.

EDIT: Besides, they should have thought about that before they commited the crime.

It's all sensationalism. That is what the news is about today..period. You know, I actually used to give a rats ass about politics and the events of the day, but now I really could care less. I don't watch the news anymore. Here is an example of common things said on a typical local news cast:

-Our top story tonight involves new findings about the diet pill zigenbackencockin. If you have taken this, the FDA says that you may be at risk to grow a second head; however, they also state that in all cases, the second head has been evil.

-An accidental shooting took place today in South Houston. When local police arrived on the scene, they learned that two teenagers were involved...apparently one shot the other one.

-Paris Hilton has apparently started her own voyer web cam site...we will now talk about this for 20 minutes.

-A new development in the Michael Jackson case has left some people involved with the case stunned. It was revealed today that the accused is actually a unicorn from the magical land of Far Away and has simply taken a humanoid form in order to spread his love and wonderment accross the galaxy. The lawyer for the accused, however, dismissed the find as "a bunch of hooey".

-Out at the Compaq center, The Rockets won a close game over the Spurs. Apparently, thier win was secured when they managed to put the ball through the hoop more times than the other team did.

-Looking at local weather, the new super dopler radar weather tracker shows clear skies for most of Houston today...but scattered showers are possible into the late afternoon as shown by this irritating mass of purple moving towards us at about mach 5.

-A local man who was trying to catch salmon in the Houston ship channel is dead from toxic poisoning. Apparently, he actually ate something that he caught there.

-Finally tonight, are you scared of Cockroaches? This local man is. Investigators say that while he was making a routine trip to the bathroom of his neighborhood gym, a cockroach zoomed down from the wall, crawled around on the floor and finally disappeared down the bathroom sink. The man emerged frieghtened, but unharmed. The gym security conducted an extensive search of the premisis, but found no trace of the roach. The man later described it as "a harrowing, Kafkaesque experience."

I'm sorry, but I feel my life is both better and more productive if I DON'T listen to this tripe. Oh and I hate rich kids who act like they're poor as well. 😎

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Lol

 

[-Kunoke-]

Lol

You've just hit my next one spot on Vlad! I hate it when people capitalize the l in "lol"

I don't know why, but I just find it irritating 😀

 

[MistressValerie1]

I capitalise it only if I am upper-casing the entire expression for emphasis: LOL! vs. lol. I have a few friends who always capitalise the first word of every IM message, though I consider IM too informal for such conventions, especially since many IM utterances are not complete sentences 🙂

 

[-Kunoke-]

I capitalise it only if I am upper-casing the entire expression for emphasis: LOL! vs. lol. I have a few friends who always capitalise the first word of every IM message, though I consider IM too informal for such conventions, especially since many IM utterances are not complete sentences 🙂

Exactally. Capitalising every letter is fine, but when people put "Lol", it makes me want to hurl a large....block....something..heavy..at....them....metal.....you get the idea. 😀