footamateur
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tukano_2 said:Hi Footamateur, I think you are the same who posted something similar some time ago on TMF. There were actually some people there who said they would have supported your projects, both artists and programmers, included me.
In your last post on TMF you said you would have posted the address of a Yahoo group with docs about your idea of the game, but you never posted it...
However, I'm glad that you showed up again here 🙂.
Hi Tukano
Yes, i'm the same 😉 the problem is that i was talking with some person but noone had time to make something that is free for the comunity 🙁 so i planned to continue by myself. The problem now is tha twithout graphic is impossible to do something, and like a lot of people know, the time when someone makes all (graphic, sound, programming, etc) is finished; i have problems expecially for the graphic now.
About the yahoo group i didn't put anything on it because i lost all the work on a hd fail, now i'm working on a new verison of the project (maybe was God's hand that did it ^_^ ) that is conceptually better than the one that i had in my mind, and is more realistic to realize.
tukano_2 said:The idea is obviously good and exciting, but I don't know if VB is a good choice. The idea of clean_kitchen was good particularly because it was simple, simply realizable and he used a tool that is particularly good to make fancy graphics/animation things, that is Flash.
Planning to do something more complex could be risky, people could start that, then after a while they have no more much spare time, it gets more complicated than they thought, they get bored because it takes too long and so on.
I know the risk, that's why i don't have in mind a big and complex project (maybe my idea is not simple....but i know what i can make and what is impossible for me to make ^_^ I don't know flash.....and i don't think i have enough time to learn it becaus ei'm learning 3d and C++, so i think that flash is not something that i can learn until i'll became good in those two things 🙁 anyway i like very much flash because in good hands can make very good things ^_^ but i'm oriented also with 3d models and animations and 2d static and animated images; the interaction is something that a good concept desiger must create; not only something that you do on a animation....my idea is a program that use visual and audio material, not only an animation seen like a "stand alone" game; that's why in use vb6 😀
Thanks for the suggestions, this is what i think about:
1) what i have in my mind is something that can be like an rpg (a character with statistic that change while you live the adventure), but is more close to an hentai game like the one where you must try to date girls; with the difference that you'll not make love with them (maybe yes...depends about what the future development will show) but tickling them 😉
I was thinking about a online function, but is not so realsitic because it needs a lot of work.....and i can't see a good results using online this kind of game that i have in my mind; isn't like an MMORPG, where you must interact with the other players....this is a experience that you'll make on your pc; the AI that i'm making are something very similar to the "neural net" that many translator uses to translate from a language to another, so the game isn't something that you launch and read....the girl react in a different way depending about what you do ^_^ isn't something that i've planned (of course there's a story with a plot and a way that the player will see, but i didn't planned that the player must follow it ^_^ is only a help for the players that want a simple linear story to follow, the oother player can do what they want in the world that i've created), but is something that evolve in different way each time that you play 🙂
2:Vb6 is a good language for client/server application; in my company we make programs with this system (you know the "gestionali" like the "zucchetti" or others right ? ^_^ ) and we don't need to use other things, except for the banks, because they need an AS400 for all the internal structure, anyway is not my duty so i don't know very much about it (i'm the programmer of the client side, for me is the same because i use th DBMS interface inside the vb6, so who is on the other side of the connectiuon is irrilevant for me ^_^
The fact is that i didn't plan to do client/server system due to the nature of the game; if someone is interested i can make also a client for an application like the one that you described before 😉
About bill.....i'm happy if i do something with free or GNU licence, because i don't want to be bound to one platform; that's why i'm learning C++ (java is similar , so the difficult is to learn one between java and C++; you know it better than me because you know both), and i hope that i'll find more free programs so i can migrate from widows to Unix system completely 🙂
3:for me a complete client in flash is a waste of time; you can easily use flash in vb6 without problem, making a simple calling to a function you can load a swf, change the parameters and also use the script inside an swf, so all the logic is inside the vb6 (or better in a dll) and you can use and load all the flash animations tha you want ^_^ I'll be happy if clean_kitchen can help us with the flash animations 😉 he's an expert in flash and is not common to work with someone that have those quality.
4) I'm not limited only in manga style, but is something that is easier instead of semi realistic figures or other styles, because if it is too cartoon style you can loose the spark that give to you the impulse to play; for example i love the style of Ozzy, and i'm still in love with the artist of "jipsy the catgirl", this is the kind of style tha ti like for the images 🙂 without forget Hiro M and the one that make the drawings on tickleague.
5)Of course those are info that i must give to show to people what i'm doing, but at this moment i have a simpel table with the features, and i'm going on the program to see if i can add or not this feature, so i prefer to post directly a 0.1 alpha version with a minimal interaction and then i'll prepare the complete documentation ^_^ i'm not ID software.....i don't know if what i have in my mind can really work so i must test it before on the "battlefield" 😀
then the people that will see it will tell to me if the orad is good or if is something to throw in the trashcan ^_^
tukano_2 said:I would be glad to contribute, I think I can work on that 2 hours a week, even if probably not every week, but I'll do my best 🙂
I work since years with Java, Delphi and Python, have done many web applications, can also use JSP, Php, a bit of Perl, and can use C/C++. I think I could learn VB if it is necessary, and I'm fashinated by Flash, so if Flash will be used, I would certainly start to learn it and maybe I could help with it too.
I can also draw, but I'm not particularly keen on manga.
I'll be very happy to have a hand (2 ...3 ....4 ...LOL), the main problem that i'm facing now is the 3d interactive view; i'm about to use a 3d engine called 3dstate; that is perfectly integrated in vb6, the problem is that it uses the same models that half life use; and i'm making the models in 3d with 3dsmax 6 and poser 5, so i'm looking for other solutions around; think that i don't need a powerful engine that moves million of polygons...i need a simple window with this model, you can use the mouse to zoom and rotate the model, and then you can select the various tools to tickle the model, so you can see the reactions 😉 i'm not making a doom3 with tickling subject inside ^_^ is a simple thing that i'm searching but noone did it , so i think that i can do it to fulfill my desire and to make happy all the people like me that are searching for something like this 😉
I hope that tomorrow i'll finish the last part of the program, so i can post a new thread with the link to the .exe compiled; about the documentation i can give a .doc with the main specs, but as i said before is a little difficult ot put inside the document all the features because i'm still evaluating what is possible to put in the game and what isn't 😀
See you soon 😉